Better Wrestler #114 *Hall of Fame Round*

[Supreme Olajuwon]

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The Undertaker


VS


http://theghostofmoonlightgraham.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/ric_flair_021.jpg
"Nature Boy" Ric Flair



3 days.

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler History</option><option>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</option><option>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</option><option>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</option><option>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</option><option>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</option><option>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</option><option>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</option><option>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</option><option>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</option><option>#10.Eddie Geurrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</option><option>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</option><option>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</option><option>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</option><option>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</option><option>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</option><option>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</option><option>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)</option><option>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)</option><option>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</option><option>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</option><option>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</option><option>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</option><option>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</option><option>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</option><option>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</option><option>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</option><option>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</option><option>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</option><option>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</option><option>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</option><option>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</option><option>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</option><option>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</option><option>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</option><option>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</option><option>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</option><option>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</option><option>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</option><option>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</option><option>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</option><option>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</option><option>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)</option><option>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</option><option>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</option><option>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</option><option>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</option><option>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</option><option>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</option><option>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</option><option>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</option><option>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</option><option>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</option><option>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</option><option>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</option><option>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</option><option>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</option><option>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</option><option>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</option><option>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</option><option>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</option><option>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</option><option>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</option><option>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</option><option>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</option><option>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</option><option>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</option><option>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</option><option>#68. Eddie Guerrero vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (37-36)</option><option>#69. Eddie Guerrero vs Sting (41-16)</option><option>#70. Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (45-18)</option><option>#71. Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (63-3)</option><option>#72. Chris Jericho vs Kevin Nash (54-12)</option><option>#73. Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko (39-9)</option><option>#74. Chris Jericho vs Ricky Steamboat (41-30)</option><option>#75. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome (24-18)</option><option>#76. Masato Tanaka vs X-Pac (34-16)</option><option>#77. Masato Tanaka vs Rikishi (36-13)</option><option>#78. Brian Pillman vs Masato Tanaka (31-13)</option><option>#79. Brian Pillman vs Road Dogg (44-7)</option><option>#80. Ultimo Dragon vs Brian Pillman (29-28)</option><option>#81. Ultimo Dragon vs Goldust (35-19)</option><option>#82. Ultimo Dragon vs Barry Windham (36-9)</option><option>#83. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Orton (35-34)</option><option>#84. Edge vs Ultimo Dragon (48-8)</option><option>#85. Edge vs Jeff Hardy (54-5)</option><option>#86. Edge vs Razor Ramon</option><option>#87. Ted Dibiase vs Edge (39-33)</option><option>#88. Ted Dibiase vs Doink the Clown (59-4)</option><option>#89. Ted Dibiase vs Rick Rude (34-20)</option><option>#90. Ted Dibiase vs. Christian (39-32)</option><option>#91. Ted Dibiase vs. Bret Hart (24-55)</option><option>#92. Bret Hart vs. Scott Steiner (56-8)</option><option>#93. Bret Hart vs. Christopher Daniels (47-15)</option><option>#94. Bret Hart vs. Triple H (40-22)</option><option>#95. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (26-47)</option><option>#96. Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (54-7)</option><option>#97. Shawn Michaels vs. Bryan Danielson (36-12)</option><option>#98. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit (38-33)</option><option>#99. Shawn Michaels vs. The Rock (44-34)</option><option>#100. Earthquake vs. Vader (10-65)</option><option>#101. Vader vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (33-32)</option><option>#102. Vader vs. The Great Muta (32-29)</option><option>#103. Vader vs. Mick Foley (16-42)</option><option>#104. Mick Foley vs. Al Snow (49-7)</option><option>#105. Mick Foley vs. Jerry Lynn (41-11)</option><option>#106. Mick Foley vs. Rob Van Dam (24-38)</option><option>#107. Rob Van Dam vs. Tommy Dreamer (52-4)</option><option>#108. Rob Van Dam vs. John Morrison (54-14)</option><option>#109. Rob Van Dam vs. Owen Hart (36-36)</option><option>#110. Rob Van Dam vs. The Undertaker (22-53)</option><option>#111. The Undertaker vs. Owen Hart (62-16)</option><option>#112. The Undertaker vs. Kane (63-3)</option><option>#113. The Undertaker vs. Diamond Dallas Page (51-18)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</option><option>Taz</option><option>Kurt Angle</option><option>Chris Jericho</option><option>Shawn Michaels</option></select>

[Juan]

WooooOOoooo

[DaveBrawl]

WooooOOoooo

[TheHaunted]

Woo?

[Dante69]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Jeritron]

This is a draw

[The Jayman]

Taker

[jskinnyg]

This is a draw

Draw my ass.. Not even a competition... 30 years kicking ass in the business... And no one was better on the mic... Flair paved the way for the HBK's, Austin's, Rock's & HHH's of today's business... NOT even a contest... Although I have a ton of respect for the dead man, he can't possibly win here...

[Ermaximus]

And there it is. The perverbial roadblock. As much as I think Taker deserves to be HOF bound, there is no denying that Flair is going to be the man to keep him out. Wooooooooooooooooooooooooo! And then the strut into a Flair faceplant.

http://theghostofmoonlightgraham.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/ric_flair_021.jpg

[Juan]

http://www.tpww.net/forums/[IMG]http://www.tpww.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=26&pictureid=80http://www.tpww.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=26&pictureid=80

[Supreme Olajuwon]

fucking photobucket

[Lock Jaw]

Love Taker, but I think there's only one person I'd put above Flair, and it isn't Undertaker.

[Ermaximus]

Yea I hate photobucket too Supreme. :(

[ron the dial]

pencil neck geek

[Juan]

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9532/taker.jpg

[thedamndest]

Is that Taker at a Bat Mitzvah?

[Skippord]

Taker wins for that sweet suit

also I hate Ric Flair

[Ermaximus]

He looks so bored out of his mind.

[Juan]

Lol I was looking for a poster of Hell in a Cell for the PPV thread I made earlier and that was one of the pics that popped up in Google Image Search.

[XCaliber]

Taker by a mile Flair is as highly overrated with the likes of Hogan or Cena.

[Verbose Minch]

Undertaker easily. Taker has adapted to so many different wrestling styles, it's crazy.

[DaveBrawl]

Check out the eyes on the dude behind Taker.

[CSL]

Taker by a mile Flair is as highly overrated with the likes of Hogan or Cena.

Baffling post on more than one level

[Skippord]

Check out the eyes on the dude behind Taker.
that's his protege

[screech]

Taker dwarfs everyone in that picture. And what a suit :y:

Speaking of stylin' and profilin'

[Nicky Fives]

Flair wrestled 10+ years past his prime.... for that reason, Undertaker gets my vote

[ron the dial]

yeah taker is still in his prime

[weather vane]

Draw my ass.. Not even a competition... 30 years kicking ass in the business... And no one was better on the mic... Flair paved the way for the HBK's, Austin's, Rock's & HHH's of today's business... NOT even a contest... Although I have a ton of respect for the dead man, he can't possibly win here...

[Seth82]

Flair wins by a mile

Taker's good but Flair's promos and his matches with Steamboat helped me pick Ric over Taker

[Godfather4Life]

Taker by a mile Flair is as highly overrated with the likes of Hogan or Cena.

level of cena? cena is GARBAGE!

[Indifferent Clox]

Are you even serious xcalibur

[Executioner]

Draw my ass.. Not even a competition... 30 years kicking ass in the business... And no one was better on the mic... Flair paved the way for the HBK's, Austin's, Rock's & HHH's of today's business... NOT even a contest... Although I have a ton of respect for the dead man, he can't possibly win here...

[shadowfoxrz]

taker

[Emperor Smeat]

Tough choice but went with Flair since he basically helped carry the NWA promotions back in the territory days and was a huge influence in wrestling. He might have wrestled a bit long past his prime but at the same time it wasn't like he always got a title reign or a title match.

Undertaker is basically one of the best of all time in the WWE but compared to Flair's ability to be a star in multiple promotions (legacy or merit), it was a bit hard picking him over Flair.

Should end up as a close vote either way.

[Nark Order]

Supreme, you fucking dickhead.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

:wave:

[Rammsteinmad]

This poll wasn't as tricky as I thought it'd be, but Undertaker easily.

[Theo Dious]

Flair probably would have gotten my vote if he hadn't made a joke of himself.

[Lock Jaw]

Flair didn't make a joke of himself!

[Lock Jaw]

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/Ravi21/FlairRollAround.gif




:shifty:

[redoneja]

Flair probably would have gotten my vote if he hadn't made a joke of himself.


I've wondered how Ric Flair would be remembered had he not gone to WWE after WCW folded. WWE really did alot to promote him as one of the greatest of all time, etc.

[Skippord]

Taker really came back and took this by the throat so to speak

[Loose Cannon]

wow, incredble that Taker is actually winning this

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Looking at the two wrestlers it is a bit surprising, but this voting is consistent with the normal trends for TPWW. WWF guys almost always have the advantage over WCW guys, and current wrestlers are normally preferred over retired wrestlers.

[Verbose Minch]

Looking at the two wrestlers it is a bit surprising, but this voting is consistent with the normal trends for TPWW. WWF guys almost always have the advantage over WCW guys, and current wrestlers are normally preferred over retired wrestlers.

Flair isn't retired...

[Indifferent Clox]

come on now people flair is the greatest wrestler of the 70s and 80s taker is a great wrestler in the 00s but was a shit wrestler with a great charecter in the 90s and late 80s ugh

[Supreme Olajuwon]

"Semi-retired" whatever. Don't be a jerk about it.

[Verbose Minch]

"Semi-retired" whatever. Don't be a jerk about it.

I'm just kidding around, don't worry. :P

[CWK]

Huge fan of Undertaker's work, but Flair was just awesome, especially his work from the 1980's..... mic work, great matches, even the hour-long ones were some of the best matches ever. The ones against Steamboat, and Barry Windham were some of my all time favs.

Flair deserves to win this one.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I think I'm going to vote Flair on this one. Taker has probably entertained me more, but I think he needs a situation tailored to his strengths so he can excel. Flair can run with pretty much anything and make it work.

[Skippord]

could have tested that theory by becoming Spartacus in WCW

[4 knuckles up]

I've enjoyed Taker's work more. Plus when I started watching wrestling (2004 ish) Flair was terrible.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Has TPWW been fair to Flair?

[Executioner]

Has TPWW been fair to Flair?

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[Joesgonnakillyou]

I started watching wrestling around the time of Wrestlemania VIII and Macho Man vs Ric Flair is still one of my favourite matches. The guy's amazing

When you think what Flair has done for wrestling it would be a joke for Taker to win.

[Nark Order]

Ric Flair was one of the greatest of his time. He's also one of the most overhyped of our time. Not to say he doesn't deserve it but if WWE told their fans that Randy Savage was the greatest of all time about 87567478664567456 times a row on a weekly basis, guess what most of us would probably think?

[Joesgonnakillyou]

Randy Savage is still better than Taker

[Nark Order]

Well I agree that Savage was better than Taker, but that's another argument. I think Savage is better than Flair. Now we're getting off topic. God fucking damnit.

[Joesgonnakillyou]

At least we've come up with a good round to debate if Flair does win!

[St. Jimmy]

This isn't even a contest.

http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/image/article/948/948742/ric-flair-20090127055339568.jpg

[Nark Order]

It's actually an extremely close contest if you look at the votes.

[The Gold Standard]

Taker all the way. I have said it from the beginning, there is no one who is better than him. He is on a whole other level.

[The Mackem]

I went with Flair

[SuperSlim]

I went with Taker. He was the sole reason I really started watching wrestling back in the early 90s.

[Cool King]

The Undertaker.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

44-43

OH MY!

[Ermaximus]

So Taker is in the HOF in a final that was too close to call. Love it! Yet I have to wait 50 rounds for Flair again now.

[#1-norm-fan]

lol. How is The Undertaker a better wrestler than Ric Flair? What the hell, people?

[El Fangel]

lol. How is The Undertaker a better wrestler than Ric Flair? What the hell, people?

You forget that better is a term that is very loosely used.

[The Mackem]

define 'loosely'

[311]

Necropost.

I was going to vote for Flair. If you didn't, just, wow. I don't even know where to begin about how wrong you are, and no, it isn't a matter of opinion.

Neg rep me, I'm already negged!

[Nark Order]

How is this not a matter of opinion? They are performers.

You sir, are a stain on the good name of Better Wrestler #114.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

So because 311 didn't vote for Flair, he lost. Pretty sure that makes 311 100% responsible. Way to go.

[Nervous Ferret]

I love the undertaker lol

(making my case for 2010 JamesSteele Poster of the year)

[Stealth-Icon]

How is this not a matter of opinion? They are performers.

You sir, are a stain on the good name of Better Wrestler #114.

LOL:rofl:

[KIRA]

The deadman

[Rock Bottom]

I see this is closed now, but Undertaker

[The Pope]

Undertaker all the way