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Xero
01-18-2010, 07:00 PM
From PWInsider:

After some ringside fans turned their back on Sean Morley's win last night, a Universal Studios employee named Bernadette approached fans and warned them not to be negative towards the show and to watch their language (since fans were calling him a "porn star", of all things.) under threat of being removed from the show. That left a bad taste in a lot of the longtime regulars' mouths and I was told there was something of a small protest at tonight's taping with fans who would usually be standing ringside in the pit instead sitting in the bleachers to "show TNA the difference." Universal had several employees, including the aforementioned Bernadette, address the crowd before the tapings, asking them to behave and stay in line with the taping. While I'm not a fan of anyone telling fans what they can do at shows and who they are supposed to back, the reality is everyone in that building gets in for free, so it's not like they can claim they are paying to express their opinions. Still, I can see such a thing being rejected by fans and the last thing any company needs is to create a backlash among their most loyal fans.

CSL
01-18-2010, 07:03 PM
lol TNA

Dark One
01-18-2010, 07:12 PM
I get why they're doing this. I've grimaced more than a few times in the past couple of weeks to something TNA expects to work get completely shit on by their fans, but those are mostly stupid decisions. I mean, Hogan trashing the 6-sided ring and basically saying it caused them to fail? Yeah, I don't think that's going to go over very well with the long-term fans.

taker707
01-18-2010, 07:16 PM
FRONT FUCKING PAGE



Before tonight’s TNA iMPACT tapings began in Orlando, members of the TNA staff addressed the crowd at the iMPACT Zone about their behavior.

Fans were told not to curse, make obscene gestures or gang signs. The fans were referred to as “cast members” and were basically told they needed to be quiet, according to a fan in attendance.

This is likely another decision made by Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff, who haven’t been pleased with some of the reactions from the TNA crowd lately.

Xero
01-18-2010, 07:16 PM
I get why they're doing this. I've grimaced more than a few times in the past couple of weeks to something TNA expects to work get completely shit on by their fans, but those are mostly stupid decisions. I mean, Hogan trashing the 6-sided ring and basically saying it caused them to fail? Yeah, I don't think that's going to go over very well with the long-term fans.

Instead of fighting their die hard fans (and let's face it, the fans who go are usually more than casual fans) they should be embracing them and using them for rating what works and what doesn't.

Vince used to do this at MSG. It was his home base and he would gauge the crowd reactions for what worked and who was over. Of course he ignores the fans too now, but still.

I'm not saying fans should always be listened to, but when you're getting "bullshit" chants and heavy negative reactions towards angles, you need to look at what worked and what didn't and adjust it, at least to the point where you're not getting shit on by your corner stone fans.

Nark Order
01-18-2010, 07:16 PM
Getting rid of the 6 sided ring was an incredible idea, tbh. It feels like an actual wrestling show now.

Xero
01-18-2010, 07:17 PM
Before tonight’s TNA iMPACT tapings began in Orlando, members of the TNA staff addressed the crowd at the iMPACT Zone about their behavior.

Fans were told not to curse, make obscene gestures or gang signs. The fans were referred to as “cast members” and were basically told they needed to be quiet, according to a fan in attendance.

This is likely another decision made by Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff, who haven’t been pleased with some of the reactions from the TNA crowd lately.
First of all, source your shit.

Second of all. Wow. I do believe this, and it's a HUGE mistake.

Droford
01-18-2010, 07:28 PM
Next thing you know they'll be piping in fake chants because the crowd is too quiet.

Dark One
01-18-2010, 07:28 PM
Instead of fighting their die hard fans (and let's face it, the fans who go are usually more than casual fans) they should be embracing them and using them for rating what works and what doesn't.


I totally agree. I mean, love or hate the six-sided ring, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to imagine that the hardcore fan backlash for that is going to cause some issues. If I was someone totally new to TNA, and I watched it and saw the fans chanting "bullshit" and crapping all over things? I don't know that I'd be excited to keep watching or come back.

I don't think everything has to go over crazy well, and you certainly can't FORCE someone love an idea, but when your main angle (Hogan being a face and bringing the company to the next level) and other key ideas are being unequivocally trashed by your fanbase, it may be time to alter course. This isn't like people being resistant to change, like with the ring; a lot of this is really key stuff the company is banking on. And this isn't like with WWE or a touring company where if something gets pissed on in one place, maybe it'll work out better on the next stop. TNA has to deal with pretty much the same fan-pool, and if they alienate them, they don't have many other places to turn.

Xero
01-18-2010, 07:30 PM
I don't have a problem with the ring, because that heat will die down in a few weeks. But there are plenty of other things they will be shitting on.

And I hope they're as loud as possible and make as big of a stink as possible, even with a taping they can do damage without being "out of control".

McLegend
01-18-2010, 07:35 PM
Do you really need to turn your back on Val Venis though?

That's kinda dumb

Xero
01-18-2010, 07:37 PM
I think that's the best kind of protest honestly. It's entirely visual so they can't really obscure it.

Dark One
01-18-2010, 07:43 PM
Again, I agree. I think the fans are overreacting to some things, like the Sean Morley incident, and that's really going to hurt them rather than TNA. The way they did that is fine and smart, but the reason for it seems like an overreaction. When you act like everything you don't agree with is the end of the world, it makes it real easy for your opposition to paint you as crazy/negative/spiteful/whatever.

While the heat may die down shortly over the six-sided ring, and I personally didn't even really notice the change, I suspect the company's reaction to the fans' reaction, like Hogan shooting on TNA and its fans for failing to make it to the next level because of the ring, could have some pretty dramatic longterm consequences.

McLegend
01-18-2010, 07:50 PM
I think that's the best kind of protest honestly. It's entirely visual so they can't really obscure it.

Nah I disargee. It looks you are trying to get yourselves over.

It's just one match. It's something that's utterly pointless to protest.

RGWhat316
01-18-2010, 07:51 PM
There have been times I have been annoyed by the TNA crowds, but pulling stuff like this isnt cool. Negative crowd noise is better than no noise at all. But I can definitely see this coming from Bischoff and Hogan. Hogan looked really annoyed that the crowd was upset over the ring change.

Xero
01-18-2010, 08:22 PM
Nah I disargee. It looks you are trying to get yourselves over.

It's just one match. It's something that's utterly pointless to protest.

No it isn't. They're bringing in former talent who were midcarders ten years ago and going over their established stars. That should never, ever happen the way they're doing it.

parkmania
01-18-2010, 08:24 PM
I don't know the answer to this question, but did TNA ever really use the 6-sided ring for the one thing I thought it would be visually good for: 3-way tag team matches? It just always looks like something's off when there's a 3-way tag match in a 4-sided ring because only 1 corner is left open and there's not equal separation among the teams.

Nark Order
01-18-2010, 08:33 PM
No it isn't. They're bringing in former talent who were midcarders ten years ago and going over their established stars. That should never, ever happen the way they're doing it.

Well, at the sake of sounding like Noid, Val never really got his fair shake in the E machine and can still work great. It's not like Headbanger Mosh came in and started making Daniels his bitch. Morley is ripped, can work the mic, and can still work a great match. The only thing I don't like is that their running with the sleazy Vall ripoff gimmick. Other than that, I think it's fine.

Nicky Fives
01-18-2010, 08:37 PM
HUGE MISTAKE!!!!! The first straw in the death of TNA...... IMO, Rule #1 in pro wrestling is "to make the crowd happy" If the crowd is happy, business is good and vice-versa..... telling the fans what to do is absolutely ridiculous...... I can understand them wanting to cut out the profanity, but you cannot program all the wrestling fans into liking what Hogan wants them to like.... absolutely ridiculous..... If I ever go to a TNA event, I want to have the freedom to chant "THIS IS BULLSHIT" or "FIRE RUSSO" or "FUCK YOU HOGAN" because I paid my $100 or whatever to get into the building and have a good time...... and if that doesn't fit in with "management's" plan..... then fuck 'em

McLegend
01-18-2010, 08:39 PM
No it isn't. They're bringing in former talent who were midcarders ten years ago and going over their established stars. That should never, ever happen the way they're doing it.

A total overreaction.

Now with that said silencing your fans probably isn't the best way to go. Also putting Val Venis over Daniels is a stupid move though.

Loose Cannon
01-18-2010, 08:40 PM
wow, TNA needs to get the F out of Orlando. These fans are just a bunch of morons

CSL
01-18-2010, 08:43 PM
They went with a screwjob finish, Hebner and all, in another Kurt/AJ World title match at the Impact tapings. lol TNA

BigDaddyCool
01-18-2010, 08:49 PM
Lol, this pleases me.

Innovator
01-18-2010, 08:53 PM
nah nah nah nah

nah nah nah nah

hey hey hey

Goodbye TNA

VSG
01-18-2010, 09:34 PM
Well clearly that didnt work as the fans fucked up AJ Styles' promo when he came out with "escorts"

Stickman
01-18-2010, 09:44 PM
Wait....the crowd doesn't pay to get in?

thedamndest
01-18-2010, 09:48 PM
I'm glad they changed the ring, but it would have been better if they made it into an angle rather than "Hey, hope the fans like this!"

Skippord
01-18-2010, 09:50 PM
* Orlando Jordan defeats D’Angelo Dinero with a Flatliner.

wtf?

Robodiv
01-18-2010, 10:05 PM
They turned their back on Anderson too.

Skippord
01-18-2010, 10:32 PM
It looks like his comments over the relief effort in Haiti have gotten new TNA personality Bubba the Love Sponge sent home from a production meeting and possibly fired from the company. Bubba wrote the following on his Twitter today:
“Eric needs to chill out on this power trip. Hogan is cool. Eric is running wild. here in orlando things r all messed up. Was suppose to be at the prod meeting @11 they called and said not 2 come??? This is starting 2b not fun. All because of my Haiti comments Sorry people can’t handle the truth. And what does my Haiti comments have to do with tna wrestling. I didn’t say them on dixies air. I don’t think tna is ready 4someone like me. I shoot hard from the hip and ms Carter (although i have a ton of respect 4her) has never had a guy that is as outrageous as I am and has a Nationwide delevery method. So right now I would describe our relationship like oil and water. And it’s not good. im headed home. My agent Is coming to Orlando to deal with mess. not that I’ll ever b on tna again but tell me any tna personality that has more followers.”
Bubba also noted that he was supposed to be a part of the deal with ‘The Band’ at last night’s Genesis pay-per-view but someone vetoed Hulk Hogan so Bubba wasn’t involved.
He also said last night that Jeremy Borash is gone from TNA and he (Bubba) did not want the job of being Borash’s replacement.
Note from Ryan Clark: Again Bubba, go away. You sound lame and immature.

Londoner
01-18-2010, 10:46 PM
Getting rid of the 6 sided ring was an incredible idea, tbh. It feels like an actual wrestling show now.

Yeah, i'm getting abit sick of the ring discussion now. The bitches moaned before that it was there now they're fucking moaning its gone. :roll: Wrestling fans are never happy.

Papa Schlongo
01-18-2010, 11:47 PM
TNA has more of a reality TV feel to it....it's like the coke binging brother who goes to a funeral in a rented tux and leaves because he rented it 3 days too early. I have no idea what that means. I digress.

TNA will never find an identity trying to be a seasoned product quickly. In all honestly as in all companies...you have to learn how to manipulate your market. You silence the fans through the wrestling, the six-sided ring was a cliche come to life. I must admit I liked it visually, but you can't have that in a small arena. Too many bodies and too many matches to develop characters. I mean come on a three-way tag match? Can you really tell a good story with 3 tag teams long enough for a storyline. no....so why bother.

I designed a ring for TNA to use. Could I post it on here?

Theo Dious
01-18-2010, 11:48 PM
Wow. They got rid of the thing that really distinguished them (the ring) and now they're going to piss off their fans.

Are we SURE Vince didn't air-mail a lethal dose of poison to TNA in a big red and yellow package?

What Would Kevin Do?
01-18-2010, 11:53 PM
Forget Jordan beating the Pope, the fucking Nasty Boys beat Nash and Eric Young, with Eric Young taking the fall... Eric Young is jobbing to the fucking NAsty Boys.

Nark Order
01-18-2010, 11:56 PM
The six-sided ring was more of a burden than anything else. It seemed more like a gimmick and it definitely took away from match psychology.

As far as trying to control the fans a bit goes, I can see where they are coming from. It must be frustrating as shit to play to fans that refuse to acknowledge the face/heel dynamic and cohesively rebel against anything they don't like. Not sure if reprimanding them is the right choice but I dunno.

bigfred419
01-18-2010, 11:58 PM
if anybody watched genesis last night u would have seen scott hall pull a fan over the barricade and slap the shit out of him. why dont they punish scott hall instead. it is his job to stay in character and ignore the fans.

Savio
01-19-2010, 12:04 AM
TNA fans are fucking retarded.

Savio
01-19-2010, 12:04 AM
FRONT FUCKING PAGE
:lol:

bigfred419
01-19-2010, 12:06 AM
i love tna but they need to get rid of all the dumbasses like scott hall and x pac they are stupid drunks

Xero
01-19-2010, 12:08 AM
Thank you, taker707, for providing TPWW's newest Meme.

Theo Dious
01-19-2010, 12:08 AM
The six-sided ring was more of a burden than anything else. It seemed more like a gimmick and it definitely took away from match psychology.

Seriously? THE RING was taking away from match psychology? Not the dumbass finishes, the shitty-ass buildups, the RING was taking away from match psychology?!

Xero
01-19-2010, 12:09 AM
Seriously? THE RING was taking away from match psychology? Not the dumbass finishes, the shitty-ass buildups, the RING was taking away from match psychology?!

Not to mention the talent who take spots over psychology and storytelling.

Nark Order
01-19-2010, 12:11 AM
Well obviously, among other things as well. I think they've at least been taking steps in the right direction the past couple weeks.

You know, minus the Nasty Boys, Scott Hall, Sean Waltman, and Bubba the Love Sponge.

bigfred419
01-19-2010, 12:12 AM
what the hell does that mean xero

Xero
01-19-2010, 12:13 AM
What does what mean?

Nark Order
01-19-2010, 12:14 AM
THAT!

bigfred419
01-19-2010, 12:14 AM
TPWW'S newest Meme

Xero
01-19-2010, 12:15 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme#Internet_culture

Nark Order
01-19-2010, 12:15 AM
what the hell does that mean xero

He means that 90% of the roster would rather do circus stunts to get the crowd going instead of doing it the right way.

Nark Order
01-19-2010, 12:16 AM
Well, that isn't what you meant. I EXPLAINED IT ANYWAY, GOD DAMNIT.

bigfred419
01-19-2010, 12:18 AM
pretty sure i was speaking my own mind and said nothing someone else said if u could read u would see that

Nark Order
01-19-2010, 12:20 AM
What? bigfred419, can you utilize some puncuation please? You fucking savage.

bigfred419
01-19-2010, 12:23 AM
well you fucking dick, im sorry you suck and try to make everyone else feel as shitty as your life is. why dont you get a girlfriend and get laid ass clown.

Nark Order
01-19-2010, 12:26 AM
Kane86?

Xero
01-19-2010, 12:27 AM
Oh my God. It's Kane86.

Edit: LOL Narc.

Nark Order
01-19-2010, 12:28 AM
This horrible realization hit Xero and I like a truck at the exact same time.

Skippord
01-19-2010, 12:36 AM
Forget Jordan beating the Pope, the fucking Nasty Boys beat Nash and Eric Young, with Eric Young taking the fall... Eric Young is jobbing to the fucking NAsty Boys.
yeah nothing bad is happening from Hogan coming in at all

thecc
01-19-2010, 12:52 AM
TNA, we are wrestling

Lock Jaw
01-19-2010, 12:58 AM
Every time I read the title of this thread I think of TNA fans literally being "silenced" by assassins while they are just chilling at home or something.

owenbrown
01-19-2010, 01:17 AM
TNA would actually have to have fans at home, Lock Jaw

Phenomenal 1
01-19-2010, 01:44 AM
does anyone see a connection or make a connection to TNA letting fans into their product tapings for free versus WCW giving away tickets to Nitro at the Omni the night DX invaded Nitro?? Obviously there is an issue if TNA can't come up with the gumption to charge for tiketing into their TV tapings...although i'm sure with the massive changes, Hogan and Bischoff have charging prices in mind down the road for TV events and scrapping the free admission.

Skippord
01-19-2010, 02:08 AM
TNA would actually have to have fans at home, Lock Jaw
what does that mean?

Phenomenal 1
01-19-2010, 02:15 AM
what does that mean?

owen apparently is inferring that TNA has little to no viewers at home would be my educated guess and he's referencing to the lack of any rating above a 2.0 in their 6 year history i believe would be his substantiation??

thecc
01-19-2010, 02:27 AM
http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=92893

Hey guys. I'm one of the hardcore TNA fans who you see regularly on iMPACT! and TNA PPV. You probably recognize me as the guy who wears a shirt and tie to the shows.

I've seen a lot of posts claiming that the biggest thing wrong with TNA right now is us, the loyal fans in the iMPACT! Zone.

I'd like to give you a little perspective on things. There is a group of about 12-20 of us who are at every show we can attend (Collectively known as the "Crucial Crew", which is why you see us throw up the 'c' hand signal). And we DO NOT like the direction this company is going. Therefore, we express our displeasure in hopes that management will listen. Why? Because we LOVE TNA, and will not stand idly by while it gets raped by Hogan and his boys. If we were season ticket holders for a sports team, this would be expected, would it not?

Last night at Genesis was a major event in the growing war between the TNA loyalists and the Hoganites. I can tell you that very real battle lines are being drawn within the organization, and the conflict will get a lot worse.

Again, we LOVE TNA. So when a man who built his career and reputation on WWF Sports Entertainment comes in, changes the things that make TNA unique and basically tells us that the TNA model is broken and that "the smart marks in the front" (read Hogan's IGN interview) don't matter, aren't representative of mainstream America and so should be ignored- Yeah, we're gonna be pissed.

Last night was remarkable in that for the first time ever a TNA producer came down into the pit where we stand, grabbed my friend by the shirt and actually threatened to ban us from the building if we didn't stop with the "vulgarity and the negativity". From reports, this heat came directly from "Dixie and Terry who were pissed that we didn't put Morely over during his match with Daniels. Are you kidding? This happened during the Pope v Wolfe match, and totally killed the crowd. If you were wondering why the crowd was so dead during what was a great wrestling match, that's why.

Here's the thing though... We've become friends with a lot of the wrestlers, and they all love our energy, enthusiasm and passion, and have and continue to support us. The production crew, who takes heat directly from the top, HATE us, most likely because they are all afraid for their jobs.

Also, all of the Bubba Army idiots and other Hogan marks are now in the iMPACT! Zone and act like the complete tools they are. Oh, but THEY don't get scolded like 5-year olds, even though they are the most offensive people there.

I saw hundreds of people walk out on the show last night, something i've NEVER seen at a PPV. Things are getting weird. Hopefully, Bischoff and Russo are smart enough to use this tension to create compelling TV, but from my perspective, it seems like TNA is dying right before my eyes.

Want some compelling TV? Wait until the entire pit revolts and empties into the ring on live TV. The way things are going, this is not altogether inconceivable.

Rest assured, the Crucial Crew will fight to the end for the TNA we know and love!My head exploded at crucial crew

Xero
01-19-2010, 02:40 AM
"Want some compelling TV? Wait until the entire pit revolts and empties into the ring on live TV. The way things are going, this is not altogether inconceivable."

I want to see this, and I want to see this badly.

Specifically during a Hogan promo.

Phenomenal 1
01-19-2010, 02:42 AM
loyalty to brands/products is great....but the guy really has no room to bitch when he gets into the product every week for FREE....and even if he did pay for a ticket....every ticket to a sporting event has a disclaimer having for the management of the event or the management of the building to remove you from the event at anytime with no refund of purchase of ticket price for any actions, statements, gestures that they may deem inappropriate or a distraction to other ticket holders. Not to mention that there are kids in the show, i've seen them before....he has no right to whine about using profanity or vulgarity....and i'm sure TNA has some sort of disclaimer posted in the building that they have the right to remove you from the event for any reason at anytime without disclaimer to you objecting or having a right to remain at the event. In my opinion the dude has no grounds for bitching...its the liability he assumes for attending the event.

Vastardikai
01-19-2010, 02:57 AM
Seriously, the SHOULD charge for tickets and/or get out of the Impact Zone.

It'll cut down on the retards who amuse themselves chanting for the popcorn vendor. If you're bitching about the sides of the ring, you're fucking retarded.

Nothing shocking with Orlando Jordan and the Nastys. Nothing.

Outside of that, honestly, It's a good idea to have shows held outside of the Impact Zone and to promote your shows as WRESTLING. That's actually a good idea from Hogan. Cut down on the stupid backstage shit, and focus on the in-ring product.

James Steele
01-19-2010, 04:07 AM
If TNA wants to be taken seriously, they need to look like an actual fucking wrestling show and tour the country and perform in actual arenas.

Jeritron
01-19-2010, 05:40 AM
I'm a big fan of the switch back to a traditional ring. It just makes it easier for me to concentrate on the action, and given the dimensions, makes the matches more enjoyable to me.
I just feel like it's too cramped and awkward in the six sided ring. Even if it's not, and the dimensions technically include the same area, it just always bothered me.

So I'm good with that. Val Venis going over Daniels....um, not so much. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that Val Venis hasn't done anything but job on Heat for 10 years...and the fact that Daniels is one of their best homegrown talents who was in a PPV world title match last month...
In a hypothetical scenario of a 1998 Val Venis picking up a victory against Daniels, I'd still consider it an upset and not really the best decision.
Really no excuse for that.

RVDmark
01-19-2010, 06:13 AM
Is TNA fucking nuts?

1) They SHOULD be charging an entry fee, don't they need money? Second of all if its free you can get an old hobo turning up just for warmth (insert Scott Hall joke here).

2) Censoring the crowd? First of all are TNA so dumb that they think they can just ask the fans nicely and they will calm down? If that worked then Vince would have come out at ONS2 and asked the fans kindly not to riot. If its free to get in then why the fuck would I care about getting kicked out?

I can see exactly why the fans are shouting and gesturing what they are, can TNA really not see why this stuff is getting shat on?

I would say TNA is majorly underestimating its fan base here, and it will turn round and bite them in the arse if they are not carefull. Shame I live in the UK, would quite like to see the impact zone before it gets turned into WWE Universe HQ.


On a side note, THE 6 SIDED RING IS OUT OF HERE!!! Wooooooooooo.

Squared Circle, not hexagonal circle.

Haze
01-19-2010, 07:24 AM
Note from Ryan Clark: Again Bubba, go away. You sound lame and immature.

Something about this just screams pot and the fucking kettle.

McLegend
01-19-2010, 10:56 AM
People it's a known fact that ever since TNA has filmed at/in Universal Studios they have let people in for free.

It's a Universal Studio thing not a TNA being completely inept thing.

McLegend
01-19-2010, 10:58 AM
And that guy in the Crucial Crew is an even bigger tool then Bubba's army and Hogan marks.

Xero
01-19-2010, 11:14 AM
If TNA wants to be taken seriously, they need to look like an actual fucking wrestling show and tour the country and perform in actual arenas.

I have my doubts they could get anywhere near a decent crowd for real arenas on a regular basis.

screech
01-19-2010, 12:26 PM
I have my doubts they could get anywhere near a decent crowd for real arenas on a regular basis.

I think they could do it. It would take a hell of a lot of work (which would have to start now) and tweaking to their production and such, but it could be done.

kareru
01-19-2010, 01:15 PM
TNA do tour, they just dont film those shows


also i think its pretty obvious that the audience dictates who they like and who they don't like, you know freedom of speech and all that.

tna should be breaking their backs to please the audience, they are NOT cast members.

except 'Beard Money Guy' who im nearly 100% sure got the telling off in the first place

Fignuts
01-19-2010, 01:34 PM
Why is anyone taking sides on this? Both TNA, and it's fans are fucking batty.

Xero
01-19-2010, 02:31 PM
Why is anyone taking sides on this? Both TNA, and it's fans are fucking batty.

There are less batty fans than there are "fucking insane" figure heads in TNA.

RVDmark
01-19-2010, 02:38 PM
People it's a known fact that ever since TNA has filmed at/in Universal Studios they have let people in for free.

It's a Universal Studio thing not a TNA being completely inept thing.

I stand corrected. :)

parkmania
01-19-2010, 03:45 PM
Again Bubba, go away. You sound lame and immature.

Hi pot, I'm a kettle.

St. Jimmy
01-19-2010, 05:26 PM
Their regular smarks are the only real thing they have going for them, not the people you want to piss off.

Droford
01-19-2010, 09:52 PM
TNA needs a Right To Censor group..only..call it Right to Silence. They come out and make the people running their mouth in the ring or in the back shut up. Maybe the fans will get the hint then.

kareru
01-19-2010, 10:20 PM
did anyone else see the crowd flash the jim cornette pic


'fuck this company'

kareru
01-19-2010, 10:37 PM
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Juan
01-19-2010, 10:38 PM
If this is Re: TNA silencing fans, why not post it in that thread??

kareru
01-19-2010, 10:39 PM
If this is Re: TNA silencing fans, why not post it in that thread??

it deserves its own thread dammit

Juan
01-19-2010, 10:43 PM
Not really, considering your video's status is "publishing in progress... "

kareru
01-19-2010, 10:46 PM
its done

Juan
01-19-2010, 10:47 PM
k

FourFifty
01-19-2010, 11:41 PM
This is likely another decision made by Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff, who haven’t been pleased with some of the reactions from the TNA crowd lately.

Wait a gosh darn moment here!!!!
Are you telling me that if you give people a crappy product they're going to be Vocal about it? The guy who thinks he invented getting the crowd involved doesn't get it?
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Haze
01-20-2010, 12:19 PM
Wait a gosh darn moment here!!!!
Are you telling me that if you give people a crappy product they're going to be Vocal about it? The guy who thinks he invented getting the crowd involved doesn't get it?
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"What ya gonna do, when the crowd starts chanting 'change the channel' on you?!"

Xero
01-20-2010, 03:30 PM
Hogan: We're gonna bury Styles, Joe, Daniels, The entire X Division, and I'm taking the world title.

Fans: Touche.

erickman
01-20-2010, 04:09 PM
these are the fans who chanted fuck you russo, next live show we may get fuck you hogan clap clap.

Xero
01-20-2010, 04:25 PM
Oh God I hope so. Hogan deserves to be shit on.

DLVH84
01-20-2010, 06:36 PM
"Cast members?" I'm sorry, if I bought a ticket to one of their shows, I should be free to express myself, whether they like it or not. That's what a fan should do.

Xero
01-20-2010, 06:40 PM
"Cast members?" I'm sorry, if I bought a ticket to one of their shows, I should be free to express myself, whether they like it or not. That's what a fan should do.

You're not buying a ticket, at least in the Impact Zone. It's free to get in, even PPVs.

They have a right to do it (more so than other promotions because it's free to get in), but it doesn't make it right.

erickman
01-20-2010, 06:56 PM
You're not buying a ticket, at least in the Impact Zone. It's free to get in, even PPVs.

They have a right to do it (more so than other promotions because it's free to get in), but it doesn't make it right.

yep that is true i went to a game show at that park years ago they can control the audence like they do with the tonight show and the late show.

BigDaddyCool
01-20-2010, 07:02 PM
But it isn't a wise move when they are catering mostly to smarks.

Xero
01-20-2010, 07:12 PM
That's the thing, I think Hogan and Bischoff want the smarks out and to draw in marks.

It's the bigger audience but they aren't doing it right. At all.

BigDaddyCool
01-20-2010, 07:49 PM
You can't piss off the smarks till you draw the marks.

kareru
01-20-2010, 09:04 PM
then you can get the clarks

Haze
01-20-2010, 09:17 PM
Hogan: We're gonna bury Styles, Joe, Daniels, The entire X Division, and I'm taking the world title.

Fans: Touche.

Wouldn't be shocked in the least if he made this happen.

kareru
01-20-2010, 09:21 PM
if that happened im sure there would be less than a graceful reaction from the fans in the impact zoooone

The Mackem
01-21-2010, 06:59 AM
This actually reads like a WCW storyline when they loved the old worked shoot deal. The crucial crew may be just about the funniest thing in wrestling so far this decade.

Kane Knight
01-21-2010, 09:26 AM
"Cast members?" I'm sorry, if I bought a ticket to one of their shows, I should be free to express myself, whether they like it or not. That's what a fan should do.

Sorry...If you buy a ticket, you should actually read it.

Impact's free, so the "paid customer" shit is even dumber.

parkmania
01-21-2010, 02:28 PM
then you can get the clarks

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ministrychick77
01-23-2010, 10:17 PM
and if you ask bischoff about it on Twitter, he gets defensive as fuck.

bischoff: "Great time at the Genesis PPV and the tapings that followed. Enjoyed getting to know the TNA talent. This is going to be a Blast!"
me: "@EBischoff - so the fact that the TNA fans are turning their back (literally) on the new product says nothing to you?"
direct message from bisch to me: "EBischoff
Actually, getting alot more positive feedback than negative...perhaps you should be a little more open minded? Thanks for the message though"

Kane Knight
01-24-2010, 11:40 AM
and if you ask bischoff about it on Twitter, he gets defensive as fuck.

bischoff: "Great time at the Genesis PPV and the tapings that followed. Enjoyed getting to know the TNA talent. This is going to be a Blast!"
me: "@EBischoff - so the fact that the TNA fans are turning their back (literally) on the new product says nothing to you?"
direct message from bisch to me: "EBischoff
Actually, getting alot more positive feedback than negative...perhaps you should be a little more open minded? Thanks for the message though"

That doesn't sound very defensive, really.

DAMN iNATOR
01-25-2010, 12:57 AM
Sorry...If you buy a ticket, you should actually read it.

Impact's free, so the "paid customer" shit is even dumber.

Even if you don't actually pay to get into their shows, though, you'd think there'd be a sign with all the rules you're expected to follow, posted either in front of or just inside, the entrance to the iMPACT! Zone. Either that or before the show starts, just have the ring announcer or somebody get into the ring and give a brief rundown of the rules and regulations, and I'm sure either way they could stipulate that if you break any of the rules, management or whoever reserves the right to toss your ass. I mean, I'm pretty sure they follow the number 1 rule on tickets anyway: "We reserve the right to remove any fan at any time for any reason".

Kane Knight
01-25-2010, 10:12 AM
Even if you don't actually pay to get into their shows, though, you'd think there'd be a sign with all the rules you're expected to follow, posted either in front of or just inside, the entrance to the iMPACT! Zone. Either that or before the show starts, just have the ring announcer or somebody get into the ring and give a brief rundown of the rules and regulations, and I'm sure either way they could stipulate that if you break any of the rules, management or whoever reserves the right to toss your ass. I mean, I'm pretty sure they follow the number 1 rule on tickets anyway: "We reserve the right to remove any fan at any time for any reason".

Given it's part of Universal Studios Florida, I doubt they even need to get to the door to find that out.