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Supreme Olajuwon

01-26-2010, 01:50 PM

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Sting

VS

http://www.buamai.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/the_macho_man_randy_savage_-_randy_.jpg
"Macho Man" Randy Savage

3 days.

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler History</option><option>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</option><option>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</option><option>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</option><option>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</option><option>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</option><option>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</option><option>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</option><option>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</option><option>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</option><option>#10.Eddie Guerrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</option><option>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</option><option>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</option><option>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</option><option>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</option><option>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</option><option>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</option><option>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)</option><option>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)</option><option>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</option><option>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</option><option>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</option><option>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</option><option>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</option><option>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</option><option>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</option><option>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</option><option>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</option><option>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</option><option>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</option><option>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</option><option>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</option><option>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</option><option>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</option><option>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</option><option>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</option><option>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</option><option>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</option><option>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</option><option>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</option><option>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</option><option>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</option><option>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)</option><option>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</option><option>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</option><option>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</option><option>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</option><option>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</option><option>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</option><option>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</option><option>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</option><option>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</option><option>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</option><option>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</option><option>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</option><option>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</option><option>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</option><option>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</option><option>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</option><option>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</option><option>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</option><option>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</option><option>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</option><option>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</option><option>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</option><option>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</option><option>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</option><option>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</option><option>#68. Eddie Guerrero vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (37-36)</option><option>#69. Eddie Guerrero vs Sting (41-16)</option><option>#70. Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (45-18)</option><option>#71. Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (63-3)</option><option>#72. Chris Jericho vs Kevin Nash (54-12)</option><option>#73. Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko (39-9)</option><option>#74. Chris Jericho vs Ricky Steamboat (41-30)</option><option>#75. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome (24-18)</option><option>#76. Masato Tanaka vs X-Pac (34-16)</option><option>#77. Masato Tanaka vs Rikishi (36-13)</option><option>#78. Brian Pillman vs Masato Tanaka (31-13)</option><option>#79. Brian Pillman vs Road Dogg (44-7)</option><option>#80. Ultimo Dragon vs Brian Pillman (29-28)</option><option>#81. Ultimo Dragon vs Goldust (35-19)</option><option>#82. Ultimo Dragon vs Barry Windham (36-9)</option><option>#83. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Orton (35-34)</option><option>#84. Edge vs Ultimo Dragon (48-8)</option><option>#85. Edge vs Jeff Hardy (54-5)</option><option>#86. Edge vs Razor Ramon</option><option>#87. Ted Dibiase vs Edge (39-33)</option><option>#88. Ted Dibiase vs Doink the Clown (59-4)</option><option>#89. Ted Dibiase vs Rick Rude (34-20)</option><option>#90. Ted Dibiase vs. Christian (39-32)</option><option>#91. Ted Dibiase vs. Bret Hart (24-55)</option><option>#92. Bret Hart vs. Scott Steiner (56-8)</option><option>#93. Bret Hart vs. Christopher Daniels (47-15)</option><option>#94. Bret Hart vs. Triple H (40-22)</option><option>#95. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (26-47)</option><option>#96. Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (54-7)</option><option>#97. Shawn Michaels vs. Bryan Danielson (36-12)</option><option>#98. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit (38-33)</option><option>#99. Shawn Michaels vs. The Rock (44-34)</option><option>#100. Earthquake vs. Vader (10-65)</option><option>#101. Vader vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (33-32)</option><option>#102. Vader vs. The Great Muta (32-29)</option><option>#103. Vader vs. Mick Foley (16-42)</option><option>#104. Mick Foley vs. Al Snow (49-7)</option><option>#105. Mick Foley vs. Jerry Lynn (41-11)</option><option>#106. Mick Foley vs. Rob Van Dam (24-38)</option><option>#107. Rob Van Dam vs. Tommy Dreamer (52-4)</option><option>#108. Rob Van Dam vs. John Morrison (54-14)</option><option>#109. Rob Van Dam vs. Owen Hart (36-36)</option><option>#110. Rob Van Dam vs. The Undertaker (22-53)</option><option>#111. The Undertaker vs. Owen Hart (62-16)</option><option>#112. The Undertaker vs. Kane (63-3)</option><option>#113. The Undertaker vs. Diamond Dallas Page (51-18)</option><option>#114. The Undertaker vs. Ric Flair (44-43)</option><option>#115. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Ron Simmons (33-25)</option><option>#116. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Juventud Guerrera (28-19)</option><option>#117. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. The Big Show (25-39)</option><option>#118. The Big Show vs. Sid (50-10)</option><option>#119. The Big Show vs. Lance Storm (18-48)</option><option>#120. Lance Storm vs. Meng (65-7)</option><option>#121. Lance Storm vs. John Cena (53-18)</option><option>#122. Lance Storm vs. Sting (23-50)</option><option>#123. Sting vs. The Ultimate Warrior (57-18)</option><option>#124. Sting vs. Dusty Rhodes (50-24)</option><option>#126. Sting vs. CM Punk (41-32)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</option><option>Taz</option><option>Kurt Angle</option><option>Chris Jericho</option><option>Shawn Michaels</option><option>The Undertaker</option></select>

The Jayman

01-26-2010, 01:54 PM

Sting all the way

Lock Jaw

01-26-2010, 02:16 PM

Ooh, good one. Can't decide right now.

Joesgonnakillyou

01-26-2010, 02:50 PM

ooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh YYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!

This isn't even close for me.

The Franchise

01-26-2010, 02:52 PM

"Macho Man" Randy Savage is better than Sting at everything.

Nicky Fives

01-26-2010, 03:08 PM

I actually had to stop and think about this one..... I think it's pretty close, but I have to go with Savage

St. Jimmy

01-26-2010, 03:09 PM

sting vs. sting! (Savage Wins)

Dante69

01-26-2010, 03:53 PM

Sting

Hanso Amore

01-26-2010, 04:22 PM

Both can claim to be top ten all time. Savage by a nose.

The Mackem

01-26-2010, 04:29 PM

Going with Sting overall

Supreme Olajuwon

01-26-2010, 04:41 PM

love that picture of Savage btw

not really sure why

Blue Demon

01-26-2010, 04:43 PM

I went with Savage...grew up watching him.

Loose Cannon

01-26-2010, 04:48 PM

wow, very very very tough one. I'll think about it.

VSG

01-26-2010, 05:29 PM

I had to base my decision on what they made out of their career and Sting was more successful. Everywhere else they are a great match!

Supreme Olajuwon

01-26-2010, 05:50 PM

That's not really fair though. If Sting did make more out of his career (debatable), it's only because he was constantly pushed as the babyface hero. And he was always pushed as the babyface because he couldn't play a heel to save his life. Savage was ungodly good as a heel, but that meant he had to lose a lot of his feuds to put the babyfaces over.

The Franchise

01-26-2010, 05:56 PM

It's debatable who was more successful. Savage was insanely successful and made a shit ton of money, won close to as many World Title's as Sting and was voted #9 all-time by PWI or WON and Sting was #15 for best wrestler's or whatever.

The Franchise

01-26-2010, 06:01 PM

Other than Hogan, Stone Cold, The Rock and probably Flair who's a "bigger star" or "more successful" than Macho Man Randy Savage of the 80s? I dont think Sting could make that claim no matter how big he was in WCW. Savage was RIDICULOUS huge.

Dante69

01-26-2010, 07:00 PM

I don't consider Savage a bigger star then Sting...Savage had to bounce around between promotions to gain his fame when all Sting had to do was stay in 1 ....WCW

Nark Order

01-26-2010, 07:18 PM

Savage and anybody who thinks different is wrong. WRONG! FUCK YOU!

Nark Order

01-26-2010, 07:19 PM

Alright, I'll calm down.

Nark Order

01-26-2010, 07:20 PM

I don't consider Savage a bigger star then Sting...Savage had to bounce around between promotions to gain his fame when all Sting had to do was stay in 1 ....WCW

Ridiculous logic.

Tb1

01-26-2010, 07:28 PM

This might have been closer had you not picked such a great picture of Savage.

jskinnyg

01-26-2010, 07:35 PM

Tough call... I ONLY go with Sting because he has re-developed his character more than once, and successfully so... Other than that, this is a really tough call...

The Franchise

01-26-2010, 07:45 PM

I don't consider Savage a bigger star then Sting...Savage had to bounce around between promotions to gain his fame when all Sting had to do was stay in 1 ....WCW

So I guess Stone Cold isn't a bigger star than Sting either?

The Franchise

01-26-2010, 07:46 PM

Also before Michaels, Randy Savage was Mr Wrestlemania k

3 vs Steamboat, 4 vs DiBiase, 5 vs Hulk, 7 vs Warrior, 8 vs Flair. Randy was a BEAST

NoRoolz

01-26-2010, 07:49 PM

STING.

Randy Savage raps.

The Franchise

01-26-2010, 07:50 PM

NoRoolz

01-26-2010, 08:01 PM

^ REASON TO VOTE STING.

FourFifty

01-26-2010, 08:09 PM

Okay, I voted for Randy, hoping Randy would win this round, but I am saddened to see such a huge difference between Savage and Sting.

Innovator

01-26-2010, 08:16 PM

Randy Savage

Nark Order

01-26-2010, 08:18 PM

^ REASON TO VOTE STING.

Apparently going off the deep end means he never had anything to offer in his entire career? Kind of ridiculous. Savage is in my #1 favorite wrestler of all time. I don't even know where to begin here...

I'll say this. Buy the Savage DVD and watch his very first match in a WWF ring against Rick McGraw. Most of the people in the arena (Unless they were AWA fans) had never heard of Savage before and from the very get go, Randy worked these people into an absolute fucking frenzy. He got them to absolutely want to tear his face off within the first 5 minutes of the match by using only facial expressions and body language. It was apparent in his very first match that he was one of the most gifted and charismatic wrestlers ever to step foot in the WWF at the time.

I like Sting and think Sting is a great performer but to compare him to Randy Savage... There's no way. Anybody who votes for Sting here either never got to see Savage in his prime or just has some sort of bias towards Sting. I don't really think an argument could be made that Sting was a better overall professional wrestler than Savage. Savage had everything.

VSG

01-26-2010, 08:28 PM

I was talking about post-prime career, but ya no one can really say who was more successful in their prime.

Nark Order

01-26-2010, 08:32 PM

Nark Order

01-26-2010, 08:35 PM

I was talking about post-prime career, but ya no one can really say who was more successful in their prime.

I disagree.

Dante69

01-26-2010, 08:48 PM

[/I][/B]So I guess Stone Cold isn't a bigger star than Sting either?

Stone Cold was a mid card in WCW...a piece of shit in ECW and a Vince McMahon cocksucker in the WWE...I speak my peace:cool:

Nark Order

01-26-2010, 08:59 PM

Dante69, it's time to take after nick5555 and rename yourself DantySixNines.

NoRoolz

01-26-2010, 08:59 PM

Apparently going off the deep end means he never had anything to offer in his entire career? Kind of ridiculous.

I was joking you silly old noggin, you.

Although, I do recommend votes for Sting. Sympathy votes if nothing else :'(

Nark Order

01-26-2010, 09:01 PM

I apologize. A little wreckless and fired up here. Probably still irritable from Savage losing to Curt Hennig last time. THIS IS AN EMOTIONAL SUBJECT FOR ME.

Nark Order

01-26-2010, 09:08 PM

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Nark Order

01-26-2010, 09:08 PM

STABBED IN THE FUCKING BACK!

The Franchise

01-26-2010, 09:11 PM

lol

The Franchise

01-26-2010, 09:15 PM

Sting's reign of terror is over. :cool:

http://www.imagechicken.com/uploads/1264562345033705100.jpg

Lock Jaw

01-26-2010, 09:31 PM

Hmmmm... I've thought it over.

Sting I have pretty much always enjoyed. I enjoy him still to this very day. He is past his prime, but I still enjoy seeing him and his matches.

Randy Savage I LOVED during his prime... but in his later days in WCW, when he was past his prime, I did not enjoy him.

Still, I kind of hate voting against Randy Savage.

Stealth-Icon

01-26-2010, 10:07 PM

Snap into a slim jim.....ooooooo Yeaaaaahhhh!!!

Savage hands down for me. I like the old sting, never liked the crow sting. Savage has been one of my personal favorites of all time.

The Gold Standard

01-26-2010, 10:31 PM

Did not expect that big of a difference.

I have always been a Savage fan. I never really watched WCW because I could never get into it. I was never a big fan of Sting when I saw him either.

St. Jimmy

01-27-2010, 04:07 AM

I'd also like to note that in the picture, Sting (the wrestler) is Strumming a Bass. WIN.

Jeritron

01-27-2010, 04:43 AM

I got you for 3 minutes

The Mackem

01-27-2010, 10:18 AM

The TPWW Hall of fame is biased towards WWF/WWE wrestlers. Sting doesn't stand a chance. Just kidding.

Loose Cannon

01-27-2010, 10:24 AM

Going with Savage.

On both careers overall it's very close. Both were draws in different eras, both were main eventing during the height of WWF in the 80's (Savage) and the height of WCW in the late 90's (Sting). Work rate wise, both a ton of great matches throughout thier careers. Savage edges out Sting in the promo department. Charisma wise, it's a tie.

One major win for Savage is Sting sucked as a heel. He could never pull it off. Savage was an awesome heel and an awesome babyface. Also, like someone mentioned I saw Savage as the HBK of the 80's. He really was the MVP of so many Mania's in a row.

Bottom line, Macho Man Randy Savage

Skippord

01-27-2010, 03:39 PM

Sting

I like Sting better

VSG

01-27-2010, 03:42 PM

I disagree.

How so?

Joesgonnakillyou

01-27-2010, 06:39 PM

The TPWW Hall of fame is biased towards WWF/WWE wrestlers. Sting doesn't stand a chance. Just kidding.

This is true

but this time it's ok because Savage is clearly better.

Nicky Fives

01-27-2010, 06:48 PM

Dante69, it's time to take after nick5555 and rename yourself DantySixNines.

lol..... Nicky Fives.....

Loose Cannon

01-28-2010, 12:31 AM

I got you for 3 minutes

Wait a Minute...Did I just hear myself say...3 Minutes!

Lock Jaw

01-28-2010, 12:41 AM

I got you for 3 minutes

Did somebody just say..... 3 Minutes?!

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/i/islandboys/07.jpg

screech

01-28-2010, 12:00 PM

Close one for me, but I am going with Savage for the reasons Loose Cannon specified.

Destor

01-28-2010, 07:11 PM

this isn`t even close and i`m glad the poll agrees. savage can out work sting, out talk sting, and out draw sting. DIG IT?

Emperor Smeat

01-28-2010, 10:14 PM

Macho Man.

Besides the final few years in WCW, Macho Man was a good character in both WWF and WCW. His feud with Hogan over Miss Elizabeth was one of the best feuds he had in the WWF even if later in life he really began to get paranoid over Elizabeth.

Macho Man played the face and heel character pretty well while Sting is more known for his face and "tweener" character with the Crow version.

Dante69

01-29-2010, 06:44 AM

The TPWW Hall of fame is biased towards WWF/WWE wrestlers. Sting doesn't stand a chance. Just kidding.

Isn't that the damn truth

Juan

01-29-2010, 06:47 AM

Randy Savage was in WCW too, you twits. He had some good matches with Ric Flair and DDP

The Franchise

01-29-2010, 11:31 AM

Almost doubled in votes. That's gotta sting :naughty:

screech

01-29-2010, 11:57 AM

Randy Savage was in WCW too, you twits. He had some good matches with Ric Flair and DDP

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Phenomenal 1

01-29-2010, 05:08 PM

No suprise here that Macho Man won this....While both Savage and Sting were great performers, I think what made the miss of the boat here was the lack of national exposure for WCW vs the mainstream exposure of WWF/WWE in the late 1980's and the early 1990's. While Sting is a legend and a phenomenon in wrestling in his own right...Savage was a more established and well known name by the time mainstream exposure came to wrestling fans to discover who Sting was.

Phenomenal 1

01-29-2010, 05:08 PM

Almost doubled in votes. That's gotta sting :naughty:

Sting has been stung!!!....LOL

Dante69

01-30-2010, 04:51 PM

thats fucked

StingerSplash4Lyf

01-30-2010, 10:21 PM

are u fuckin kidding me????? all that way and you dont put stinger in the hall of fame because of some washed up slim jim guy

sting is not only a great wrestler but a great worker and has all the tools to be the biggest star ever
if tna knew anything he'd be bigger than hogan. hes so good he never had to work for vince. remember that

lol but you guys dont put him in the hall. he is the hall you idiots