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screech 12-22-2011 09:09 PM

Need some fantasy advice for the championship, friends.

Boldin looks to be out this week. My backup WRs are Eric Decker (who has done absolutely nothing for me) and Robert Meachem (who is too inconsistent to actually start).

Demaryius Thomas is available, which wouldn't be bad I guess but it depends how much DEN decides to throw. Also Jabar Gaffney has a pretty good matchup. Can't believe I'm putting so much into this (never really into fantasy before).

I think I've narrowed it down, since a lot of other WR options may not play, but I'm not sure. If you had to choose between those two, who would it be?

FearedSanctity 12-22-2011 09:14 PM

Weather for Denver @ Buffalo is supposed to be pretty shit, but Denver is passing more. Could seriously go either way. Denver doesn't really have a #1 WR, more like 1 and 1a. May be best to just avoid Denver WRs totally, but if you're gonna go with one between DT and ED Demaryius is probably best

Droford 12-22-2011 09:49 PM

Houston sucks

dunno why Im watching

horrible game

screech 12-22-2011 10:33 PM

I went with Jabar Gaffney. Denver's inconsistency with passing/targets is too big a gamble for the final. Plus I like the matchup Gaffney has, and he's been solid.

Skippord 12-22-2011 10:44 PM

I wish he were a Bronco still :'(

RoXer 12-22-2011 11:24 PM

Hey idiots,

Stop winning.

You idiots.

Corndad 12-22-2011 11:25 PM

Wow is Houston actually gonna lose this.

Supreme Olajuwon 12-22-2011 11:26 PM

Think St. Louis and Minnesota both jump Indy in the draft order if Indy wins this game.

Whoops.

Emperor Smeat 12-22-2011 11:27 PM

:lol: Texans.

They could be out of the race for a bye and a lock on home field advantage if both the Patriots and Ravens/Steelers win. Denver would also be 1 game behind for the Texans #3 seed if they win against the Bills.

:lol: Minnesota now holds the #1 draft pick because of Indy's wins being stronger than Minny's.

RoXer 12-22-2011 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3710585)
Think St. Louis and Minnesota both jump Indy in the draft order if Indy wins this game.

Whoops.

Idiots

Supreme Olajuwon 12-22-2011 11:29 PM

would be muy interesante if St. Louis or Minnesota has the first pick with Bradford and Ponder both showing they're good, but maybe not great.

Supreme Olajuwon 12-22-2011 11:30 PM

and now that Matt Barkley is out of the draft, that pick becomes worth even more CASH $$$

Corndad 12-22-2011 11:36 PM

Texas played like they wanted to lose so didn't have to play Luck for the next ten years in their division. lol

Evil Vito 12-22-2011 11:37 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Really no doubt that the Texans are going one and done in the playoffs.</font>

RoXer 12-22-2011 11:58 PM

• Strength of schedule for the previous season is the first tie-breaker for teams with the same winning percentage. The team with the lowest strength of schedule percentage wins the tiebreaker and picks ahead of all other teams with the same record.

• Divisional and conference records are the next step in the tie-breaking procedure.

• As a last resort, a coin toss is used to determine the order of selection for teams with the same winning percentage.



So, the team who had an EASIER schedule gets the first pick?

RoXer 12-23-2011 12:02 AM

oh wait hang on thats old

OssMan 12-23-2011 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoXer (Post 3710652)
• Strength of schedule for the previous season is the first tie-breaker for teams with the same winning percentage. The team with the lowest strength of schedule percentage wins the tiebreaker and picks ahead of all other teams with the same record.

• Divisional and conference records are the next step in the tie-breaking procedure.

• As a last resort, a coin toss is used to determine the order of selection for teams with the same winning percentage.



So, the team who had an EASIER schedule gets the first pick?

Yhea makes sense, the team who went 2-14 against the shitty teams should pick before the team who went 2-14 against the harder teams.

RoXer 12-23-2011 12:07 AM

I can't find current SoS ratings but some article on ESPN a few weeks ago predicted the Colts would have a lower percentage than the Rams so I'll go with that.

DrA 12-23-2011 12:09 AM

I would assume this win would bump them up over the Rams.

DrA 12-23-2011 12:09 AM

Strength of Schedule is a specious statistic for the most part. It puts too many things out of context.

RoXer 12-23-2011 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrA (Post 3710665)
Strength of Schedule is a specious statistic for the most part. It puts too many things out of context.

Well that's what the tie-breaker is so whatever.

I can't find any current SOS rankings. Gunna stop looking too. Who am I, Sherlock Holmes?

RoXer 12-23-2011 12:13 AM

Not gunna crunch the numbers either. Who am I, Albert Einstein?

Supreme Olajuwon 12-23-2011 12:23 AM

ESPN has the SOS as such:

Vikings - .587
Rams - .566
Colts - .547

Supreme Olajuwon 12-23-2011 12:23 AM

so yeah I guess Colts are still picking first

DrA 12-23-2011 12:25 AM

How do they calculate that number, I think I used to know the formula, maybe I didn't. I'm going to try and find out.

RoXer 12-23-2011 12:27 AM

Whoa, slow down there Albert Einsteen!

DrA 12-23-2011 12:28 AM

I looked it up, it's some stupid formula.

FearedSanctity 12-23-2011 12:37 AM

Colts do play the Jags next week. Irsay has to be stroking out about the idea of winning another one, bet Caldwell gets canned after Christmas

owenbrown 12-23-2011 03:23 AM

Projected draft order: as of this week so far

source: CBS Sports http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/standings/playoffrace

1 1 1 Indianapolis
1 2 2 St. Louis
1 3 3 Minnesota
1 4 4 Cleveland
1 5 5 Jacksonville
1 6 6 Tampa Bay
1 7 7 Washington
1 8 8 Miami
1 9 9 Buffalo
1 10 10 Carolina
1 11 11 Philadelphia
1 12 12 Kansas City
1 13 13 Arizona
1 14 14 Tennessee
1 15 15 Seattle
1 16 16 Dallas
1 17 17 San Diego
1 18 18 New York Giants
1 19 19 Chicago
1 20 20 Cincinnati from Oakland
1 21 21 Cincinnati
1 22 22 New York Jets
1 23 23 Denver
1 24 24 Detroit
1 25 25 Cleveland from Atlanta
1 26 26 Houston
1 27 27 Pittsburgh
1 28 28 San Francisco
1 29 29 Baltimore
1 30 30 New England from New Orleans
1 31 31 New England
1 32 32 Green Bay

Blakeamus 12-23-2011 08:00 AM

Man, why isn't ESPN giving Brees enough credit for his race to beat Marino single season pass record? The talk of this record having an asterick is ridiculous.

Supreme Olajuwon 12-23-2011 10:52 AM

What? ESPN loves Drew Brees. Cut that out.

Reavant 12-23-2011 02:11 PM

why would it have an asterick?

Evil Vito 12-23-2011 02:14 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Brees is an excellent quarterback, but breaking the passing record in 2011 when quarterbacks can't even be touched means nothing.</font>

Supreme Olajuwon 12-23-2011 02:16 PM

So then why aren't 15 QBs breaking the 5,000 yard mark this season?

Reavant 12-23-2011 02:37 PM

well to be fair... 3 of them might

Reavant 12-23-2011 02:40 PM

make that four

Reavant 12-23-2011 02:42 PM

id say marino doing it when he did, is a bit more impressive. considering there was no rules protecting the quarterback, DBs could rough up the WRs much more than they can now, and the receivers were not the same quality that they are now.

Emperor Smeat 12-23-2011 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3711045)
<font color=goldenrod>Brees is an excellent quarterback, but breaking the passing record in 2011 when quarterbacks can't even be touched means nothing.</font>

Brees has been slowly going after the record for the past few years so its not that surprising he might actually break it this season.

Probably could have broken it last year if it wasn't for the large amount of INTs (22) he threw which killed a bunch of quality Saints drives. I think only Eli Manning had more INTs last year.

The main reason why a lot of quarterbacks had huge passing numbers was due to the lack of training camps hurting defenses more this year than offenses. Newton himself had like 800+ yards in the first 2 games and then settled down as the season went on.

Supreme Olajuwon 12-23-2011 02:55 PM

Marino's record is more impressive, no doubt. But to say that breaking the record means nothing is stupid.

Blakeamus 12-23-2011 03:09 PM

Well that is what they were discussing the other day and I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I always thought ESPN showed plenty of love towards Drew Brees. But these were coming from the same people that was on the TEBOW bandwagon cock until The Pats/Brady beat them. In Marino's era, it was impressive what he did, but why even considered an asterick to the record because of the difference in eras? If that is the case than, why have records to begin with?


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