Don't like it. Enzo and Cass still have a lot they could do as a tag team. Still don't think they should split them though. If they want Cass as a singles guy keep Enzo with him as his manager.

If they wanna turn him heel though, he's kinda gotta turn on Enzo. Enzo as a heel manager wouldn't work at the moment.

I agree. Don't think they should turn him heel just get though. When they do split him turning on Enzo will be big but it needs to wait.

I like Big Cass and think he's better than this jobber team with Enzo. You don't necessarily need to turn him heel. Fans won't boo Taker, but it would make sense for him to lead the program.

Seems rushed if Cass is going to turn heel, beat Enzo and then lose to Taker. Would be probably better to be a babyface, challenge Taker, be competitive with Taker but lose, then turn heel on Enzo the night after Mania.

What do you think Sami Zayn does at WrestleMania this year? It's hard to be excited about his current position on the card, but I do feel that he is valued as a guy that helps others look great. He was in quite a few MOTY candidates last year. I can't see him being left off the Mania card, but he doesn't feel like the sort of guy you just throw into the Battle Royal.

If they do go with Cena/Taker, AJ Styles vs. Sami Zayn makes sense as a random Mania match with guys on the opposite disposition on the opposite brand looking to prove themselves. You're pretty much guaranteed to get a good match out of them.

There's always the possibility they just delayed his trade to SmackDown in order to get more out of his work with Strowman and that he ends up challenging for the IC Title there. I think we're heading towards Ambrose & Renee vs. Miz & Maryse for Mania now, but Miz could easily cost Ambrose the IC Title to someone like Ziggler who can put it on the line against Sami or do that Ladder Match they like to do.

Another possibility is to start something up with Rusev. There's another guy that should be featured in something, but he's more a natural fit for the Battle Royal than a Zayn would be. But Lana is also someone with some star qualities that they might like to tie into a story told between them.

Truth be told, while I like the idea of finally giving Dolph a singles match at WrestleMania, there are likely to be so many singles matches at Mania. A Ladder Match pitting Ziggler against Zayn, Kalisto, Kane, Crews, Corbin and someone like Harper or even Swagger would give the show more variety. You can build the singles feud between Ziggler and Zayn coming out of Mania.

Don't really see the need to turn Cass on Enzo. He's got something likable about him and is inexperienced enough that you can buy him finding his feet in a sympathetic way. I'd rather see Enzo turn on Cass, to be honest, with Cass being loyal until the end with Enzo, but it being Enzo's jealousy and little man syndrome that causes him to go out on his own before Cass realizes he has outgrown him.

I'm willing to bet that Enzo could fucking talk as a heel. The catchphrases are over, but they are limiting and he's already been stomped into the ground as a babyface. Enzo would be a good choice to get into a war of words with The Rock at WrestleMania too. Obviously Rocky's not wrestling, but he'll be doing something talky, and the best thing Enzo does is talking, so if you want to emphasize him, that might be the best way.

Drew Galloway and The Hardys' contracts are coming up with TNA. That The Hardys could be at WrestleMania is something that hasn't really been considered. Most of the boys seem to a mark for the bullshit they are doing, so it wouldn't be too strange to see them show up and start something with The New Day (if they do Owens vs. Jericho) or Owens & Jericho (if they don't), or possibly even both teams. We haven't seen TLC at WrestleMania in some time...

It's a shame that Jeff's contract isn't up in time for the Rumble, because I could genuinely see the WWE giving him a Royal Rumble victory and putting the Universal Title on him at Mania if he were there.

No chance of this happening, but I'd absolutely love it if Triple H declined the invitation to face Seth Rollins and instead appointed a new sponsored opponent for Rollins. My mind immediately goes to Bobby Roode, since he basically channels Triple H. Drew McIntyre would work if they brought him back as "The Chosen One." But, if the plan is still to do Cena/Taker then this could be a roll they bring Samoa Joe up into.

It really feels like there is nothing for him left to do in NXT, and it's hard to fit him into something meaningful on the main show that isn't Cena. But if Triple H were ready to swallow his ego a bit, realize that WrestleMania doesn't need that Triple H match and instead sponsor some of his new wave NXT guys, then Joe vs. Rollins has got potential to be something. Or, if you do Joe/Cena, you can have Roode vs. Rollins. If they do what I hope they do and have Owens & Jericho win the RAW Tag Titles, Rollins could win the US Title from one of them and then defend it against Roode at Mania. This might be squishing things together too much, but if Ambrose & Miz are still fighting, you could do Rollins & Ambrose teaming up as champions to face Miz & Roode.

Just spit-balling some ideas there.

Another idea:

* The Undertaker wins the Royal Rumble and challenges Roman Reigns for the Universal Title.

* Samoa Joe crashes the John Cena vs. AJ Styles match at the Royal Rumble and leaves both men lying.

* Goldberg eliminates Brock Lesnar from the Royal Rumble, who in turn throws a tantrum and destroys the ringside area. Shane McMahon and officials come out to try and smooth things over, but it ends with Brock spitting on Shane or something, planting the seeds for an Unsanctioned Street Fight at WrestleMania with Daniel Bryan training up Shane for it.

* Rusev goes on to eliminate Goldberg setting up a match between them at Mania.

* Triple H keeps ducking Seth Rollins and calls in Bobby Roode to be his surrogate and fight Rollins at Mania.

* The Hardys return and challenge Owens & Jericho and The New Day to a TLC Match at WrestleMania.

* Randy Orton & Bray Wyatt decide that Luke Harper is the weak link of The Wyatt Family and turn on him, but Harper strikes up an alliance with Kane to fight against The Apex Predators.

* Charlotte is forced to defend her Women's Championship in a Fatal 4-Way against Sasha Banks, Bayley and Nia Jax. How ever will the champ keep her streak alive with the odds stacked against her?

* Becky Lynch wins back the SmackDown Women's Title and defends against Nikki Bella. Who really is the most popular Diva on SmackDown?

* The women also get involved in Dean Ambrose & The Miz's rivalry when they confirm a Mixed Tag Team Match, with Renee Young making her in-ring debut with the WWE. Will she be completely outclassed by the former Divas Champion?

* The Miz and Ambrose's rivalry costs them the Intercontinental Championship to Dolph Ziggler, who finds himself staring down the barrel at a hungry challenger just traded to SmackDown in Sami Zayn. Will the two have an Intercontinental Championship match for the ages?

* Neville goes on a tear through the Cruiserweight Division as its new champion and worries that there is no challenger in the world that can reach his level. Cue Kota Ibushi's golden return to the WWE.

* The Andre the Giant Battle Royal is announced, and Big Show declares he wants to win it again. Shaq confirms that he will be entering to get his hands on Big Show. Cesaro & Sheamus enter as partners that will fight through the crowd to make sure it is them at the end. The World's Strongest Man announces that it will be his last shot at glory in the WWE. Braun Strowman was the runner-up in the Royal Rumble and that lost still haunts him, so he looks for Battle Royal redemption. Baron Corbin looks to take back-to-back Battle Royals.

* Finally announced is an NXT classic. After American Alpha retain the SmackDown Tag Team Championship against recent rivals in The Usos at Elimination Chamber, they find themselves attacked at every point by The Revival, who want to make their main roster presence felt. Will they be able to wrest the SmackDown Tag Titles away from Alpha like they did the NXT Tag Team Championship?

That's only 14 matches. I think you could get that done in about 6 hours. Keep in mind that Goldberg vs. Rusev is likely to be a squash. Actually, Becky vs. Nikki can probably main event the pre-show, which they will make out to be a big deal. So that's really only 12 main card matches.

From a recent episode of the Observer Radio show and them being vague about it since they know Vince will likely change it if it gets leaked out. Supposedly the match is something both Dave Metlzer and Brian Alvarez really like on paper which is why they don't want to risk it getting changed.

Recent update regarding the card itself was a lot of the current plans got shelved in favor of more "fresh" and non-leaked matchups instead. Only Goldberg-Lesnar and Shaq-Show survived the recent purge of the plans.

I'm thinking Zayn/Nakamura and Neville/Ibushi are real possibilities for Mania this year. They clearly won't give a fuck if the show goes 6 hours, so I think they'll just jam everything on there.

I can see the undercard looking like a series of IWC dream matches, followed by your heavier hitting heavyweight main events.

My best guesses from that are:

Taker vs Balor (RAW guy)
Taker vs Roman (RAW guy, though I think it's safe to say the internet, as a whole, would not love that or welcome it)

Cena vs Samoa Joe (could he debut on SD?)
Cena vs Kurt Angle (ditto)

Assuming the rumors about Joe getting a massive push for his call-up is true, Cena vs Joe makes the most sense. Anything involving Taker is probably going to be a one-off match while Cena-Joe can continue as a big focal point of Smackdown after Mania.

Also plays into the clarification of the Observer Radio's surprise involving either Taker or Cena.

I could see Joe attacking Cena and Styles at the Rumble and the WWE Title match being a Triple Threat. I have no clue how they spin their wheels through the next few months though.

These guys are too much. So now they are telling their paying customers they can't reveal inside info because if they do, then good matches will get changed. Honestly, how do they have any subscribers at this point? I bow to the depths of their carny.

Supposedly Beth Phoenix is HOF bound.

I definitely loved Beth Phoenix. She, Victoria, and Mickie felt like the lone bright spots in the women's division between 2006-12, at a time when they had separate women's divisions on each show and she's the only one of the group to have retired. But yeah, it's kinda hard to think of her as a Hall of Famer. Especially with Chyna not being in when Beth was sorta presented as being Chyna 2.0, a powerhouse who can (and did) kick guys' asses in addition to the women.

You have Edge's babies, you get in the HoF

Dave Meltzer is cyber-bullying me. SMH.


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damn...it's a parody account...I was 100% ok with that answer

More FAKE NEWS from slik.

More CYBER BULLY behavior from Big Vic, man responsible for attacking tpww ICON and mega-face, owenbrown!

For the 100th time, I never "mocked" owenbrown (would never do that) but simply showed him "groveling" when he totally changed a 6 year old story that he had written in order to make me look bad. Just more very dishonest media!

Beth Phoenix going in doesn't surprise me. That it's this year seems a bit early. I'd have guessed that Molly Holly or Victoria would have gotten the nod, with Sable going in next year. Something about Sable just seems tonally wrong this year, given that they aren't even a year into having "Women's Championships" back. I can see her going in once they are comfortable referencing, ironically, how they sexed up the women in the Attitude era. One more year adds to her "classique" value.

Haku and Rick Martel are good names to go in for guys that are still alive, kicking and aren't exclusively from the last 20 years.

Absolutely loved Martel. I feel like he is one of the most undervalued guys in WWE history.

He looked great, could go in the ring and played his eventual character perfectly. Absolutely agree on him going in.

Haku too when you consider his longevity in the business, but Martel was just awesome.

add those two names along with Angle and it'll damn near make the HOF watchable this year

If/when Sable goes in it's gonna be hilarious watching the video for her induction where they try to hype her up as something other than a pair of tits.

Her tits should be inducted into the celebrity wing of the hof on their own merits outside of wwe.

I would find it hilarious if they called her "The Greatest Female Wrestler of All Time"

They will say things about her being "revolutionary at a time when content in the WWE was heading in a risque direction." They will show her Powerbombing Mero and emphasize how popular she was. They'll throw in something about her bringing back the WWF Women's Championship and planting seeds for women like Trish Stratus to follow in her footsteps.

This year I'd put in:

* Kurt Angle
* Bull Nakano
* Haku
* Kevin Sullivan (this year due to his Florida connections)
* Sean Waltman
* Teddy Long
* Muhammad Ali, Floyd Mayweather, Jon Stewart, etc.
* DDP as a second big name.

Pocket Martel for next year. You can't have all your older guys go in one year.

Ray Stevens should go into their Legacy section given that he should have been inducted prior to Mania 31.

While I would avoid this, just because I'm not a big fan of the style of match, I can see the WWE putting forward two Fatal 4-Way matches for the Women's Titles at Mania. Charlotte, Sasha, Bayley and Nia would make up the RAW one; Alexa, Becky, Mickie and Nikki would make up the SmackDown one.

Also possible is some sort of SmackDown Women's Scramble: Alexa Bliss vs. Becky Lynch vs. Mickie James vs. Natalya vs. Nikki Bella.

Let's say the plan is to keep Kevin Owens Universal Champion until WrestleMania, but the plan isn't to have him face Chris Jericho. Is there someone that you would like to see Jericho face? The show is already going long enough, but assuming that the plan is for Jericho to have a match where he puts over a younger guy -- who would you choose?

Cesaro?

So this year and next years wrestlemania still really hinges on "whatever the undertaker wants..."

I've watched maybe the last 4 or 5 wrestlemanias...isn't anyone concerned about this guy dying? You can't bank on this guy being able to stand 14 months from now? Right? Right?

Yeup that's been the case with Taker ever since the Triple H series of matches where parts of Mania's plans are entire dependent on Taker's status. They had to start his Mania feuds later than usual just because he needed more time to recover and had to tone down his matches for his own health's sake.

Observer had a report about Taker needing major hip surgery but has been postponing it for a while since he knows his career is over when it happens. Like Foley's medical problems, this is something that should have been done earlier but he doesn't want to do it yet.

That would be a good match.

If they're not doing Cena/Taker, let Taker sit this one out. I did a write-up in another thread about now being fairly keen on Brock Lesnar vs. Seth Rollins, with Brock working as Triple H's surrogate in order to receive a title shot for eradicating Rollins. I feel that has more sizzle to it than a straight-up Triple H vs. Rollins match.