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Jeritron 01-14-2009 11:45 PM

I'm back. About 30 seconds in

Fox 01-14-2009 11:45 PM

Haha only one side of the door handle broke off.

Jeritron 01-14-2009 11:47 PM

I actually loved that Goldberg theme

Juan 01-14-2009 11:47 PM

Man, I had forgotten all about this match

Fox 01-14-2009 11:48 PM

I didn't mind it - just thought it was an unnecessary change. On that note, of all the things they decided to keep about the "WCW Goldberg mystique," the walk from the back was probably the one they should have cut.

Jeritron 01-14-2009 11:50 PM

It was unnecessary, but I ended up kind of preferring it.

Juan 01-14-2009 11:50 PM

damn, what a chair shot!

Jeritron 01-14-2009 11:51 PM

was just going to say

Fox 01-14-2009 11:51 PM

a people's chair shot

Juan 01-14-2009 11:51 PM

They don't swing chairs like that anymore

Juan 01-14-2009 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 2398092)
a peeple's chair shot

Fixed :D

Jeritron 01-14-2009 11:52 PM

They hardly swing chairs

redoneja 01-14-2009 11:53 PM

I honestly don't remember this match or the reason for it.

Jeritron 01-14-2009 11:55 PM

Goldy

Fox 01-14-2009 11:55 PM

This was when Christian was trying to be "the next Rock" after he left following his loss to Goldberg at Backlash 2003, and part of Christian being "the next Rock" was defeating Goldberg.

Jeritron 01-14-2009 11:56 PM

That's pretty lol

Jeritron 01-14-2009 11:56 PM

Who wants the next turn? redoneja, if you got something it's all you

Juan 01-14-2009 11:57 PM

I'll go after red

Jeritron 01-14-2009 11:58 PM

Okay. Red, then Juan.

redoneja 01-14-2009 11:59 PM

Alright. Watching the Akiyama/Morishima match got me in the mood for Puro, so I figured I'd post this for those that aren't too familiar with Japanese wrestling. It's a great match, uber-stiff. To give you a bit of background, these two are probably considered the strongest and toughest wrestlers in Japan and this was there first ever meeting in a singles match. Real interesting segment in part 2.

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redoneja 01-15-2009 12:00 AM

It may be a bit lengthy, but I think it's worth it.

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:00 AM

lol amazing intro to kick it off

Fox 01-15-2009 12:01 AM

That's some epic-ass theme music.

Juan 01-15-2009 12:02 AM

If I was a wrestler, I'd definitely want to spend some time in Japan. I don't think I could take some of those stiff shots though.

Juan 01-15-2009 12:03 AM

and I'd definitely rock a cool looking mask.

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:03 AM

Is this a huge event?

redoneja 01-15-2009 12:04 AM

It's also interesting to note that at the time of this match Kobashi isn't very far removed from a 2 year reign as GHC Heavyweight Champion and that his knees are in terrible shape.

redoneja 01-15-2009 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2398116)
Is this a huge event?


I believe this was NOAH's second event in the Tokyo Dome. Not sure on the capacity but its huge. For instance, if WWE wanted to run Wrestlemania in Japan for some reason, they'd run Tokyo Dome.

Fox 01-15-2009 12:05 AM

Japanese fans pop for some odd things. I suppose its just cultural.

redoneja 01-15-2009 12:08 AM

To build up this match even more, imagine a match with the build-up and awe from a mark's standpoint like say, Hogan v Warrior at Mania VI, but the wrestlers have the work ability of Hart v HBK.

That's probably how Japanese fans approached this match.

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:12 AM

I'd by typing more, but I'm having buffalo wings while I watch haha. This is great so far

Fox 01-15-2009 12:12 AM

Halfway through the second vid: Jesus christ!

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:13 AM

He had a match with Joe a few years back, right? If so I watched it

redoneja 01-15-2009 12:13 AM

I was waiting for someone to mention that.

Juan 01-15-2009 12:13 AM

Holy crap. Chop City!

redoneja 01-15-2009 12:14 AM

In regards to Fox's comment.

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:14 AM

I love his corner chops spot

Fox 01-15-2009 12:14 AM

I'm not a huge fan of Japanese wrestling. Is this chop war a normal thing?

redoneja 01-15-2009 12:14 AM

When you get to the chop battle, turn up your volume and just listen.

Fox 01-15-2009 12:15 AM

Or is it like Benoit's 10 German Suplexes to Austin in that one match and more of a one time occurence?

redoneja 01-15-2009 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 2398132)
I'm not a huge fan of Japanese wrestling. Is this chop war a normal thing?

It's not uncommon for wrestlers to trade strikes back forth. Doesn't always have to be chops though. This is exceptional in length and has to do with the whole thing I mentioned before about these two being the strongest and the toughest.

It's based on this whole concept called "Fighting Spirit". Basically you just dish back and forth taking each other's best shots until the strongest wrestler is determined.

Juan 01-15-2009 12:17 AM

Sweet looking 'plex

PS. I just started on the 3rd vid

Fox 01-15-2009 12:18 AM

Is that half nelson suplex his trademark move?

redoneja 01-15-2009 12:19 AM

I'm ab 2 minutes behind you Juan.

redoneja 01-15-2009 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 2398137)
Is that half nelson suplex his trademark move?

Kobashi? It's a "signature" move, if you will. Not his typical finisher. Although in Japan, wrestlers have numerous signature moves of which any could beat an opponent.

Juan 01-15-2009 12:20 AM

:eek: @ the brainbuster on the outside

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:20 AM

damn

redoneja 01-15-2009 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2398140)
:eek: @ the brainbuster on the outside

You mean the one that Sasaki gave Kobashi? That was meant to be a Northern Lights Bomb, which is one of Sasaki's primary finishers.

Juan 01-15-2009 12:22 AM

Kensuke's feeling it!

Juan 01-15-2009 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redoneja (Post 2398142)
You mean the one that Sasaki gave Kobashi? That was meant to be a Northern Lights Bomb, which is one of Sasaki's primary finishers.

Yeah that's the one

Fox 01-15-2009 12:24 AM

Damn. You can see how bruised their chests are in some of the close ups. Just brutal.

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:24 AM

6:00 was interesting

Juan 01-15-2009 12:25 AM

HOLY SHIT at that sleeper suplex!

Fox 01-15-2009 12:26 AM

Nasty finish. Great pick, red.

Juan 01-15-2009 12:27 AM

Sweet match :y:

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:27 AM

Great finish

redoneja 01-15-2009 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 2398151)
Nasty finish. Great pick, red.


Thanks man. Notice the stiffness in the last spot (Rolling chops in the Lariat)?

Juan 01-15-2009 12:28 AM

I got so caught up in it, I totally forgot to think about my pick. Give me a min!

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:28 AM

I need to watch more Kobashi. I've only watched a small amount of his matches. Including the one with Samoa Joe

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:29 AM

No rush Juan

Fox 01-15-2009 12:30 AM

Yeah those spinning chops were fucking brutal. Triple H would cry like a bitch if he got hit with one of those.

redoneja 01-15-2009 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2398157)
I need to watch more Kobashi. I've only watched a small amount of his matches. Including the one with Samoa Joe


He's got some great matches from his early career against Dr Death Steve Williams. Now, this was before Kobashi was as high up in the card as he was in against Sasaki. He was also (obviously) younger and more mobile at the time, so his style is a bit different, but still excellent.

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:31 AM

I'd still love to see cross promotion where Vince let a top WWE guy go have a match there

Juan 01-15-2009 12:33 AM

Ok, there's no way I can top that last match, but here's my pick...

Stone Cold Steve Austin & Triple H vs. Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho

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Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:36 AM

Starting now. One of my favorite TV matches ever.

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:36 AM

Loved the Two Man Power Trip

Juan 01-15-2009 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2398171)
Loved the Two Man Power Trip

Same here.

Also, Heyman on commentary was GOLD

Juan 01-15-2009 12:42 AM

lol thumb in the eye

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:42 AM

Interesting tidbit: If HHH never tore his quad here, the Invasion likely would have been started much later and probably unfolded way differently.
I have read that the injury of HHH and The Rock leaving to make a movie prompted WWF to pull the trigger on the WCW storyline, which was going to be more steadily built with more involved.

Juan 01-15-2009 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2398176)
Interesting tidbit: If HHH never tore his quad here, the Invasion likely would have been started much later and probably unfolded way differently.
I have read that the injury of HHH and The Rock leaving to make a movie prompted WWF to pull the trigger on the WCW storyline, which was going to be more steadily built with more involved.

And undoubtedly, the world of professional wrestling would be a much better place right now.

Juan 01-15-2009 12:48 AM

On a side note, THAT'S the Stephanie McMahon I would like to fuck.

Juan 01-15-2009 12:48 AM

I dunno about that hairdo though, Steph.

Juan 01-15-2009 12:49 AM

ROFL Earl Hebner slipped

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:49 AM

Also, if this injury never occured things would have been very different with the Wrestlemania 18 main event and HHH's career.
He probably would have continued on in his heel capacity of 2001, rather than the superman face version of him in 2002, and then his power. Word was always that the injury gave him more clout in the long run.

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:50 AM

lol Hebner. Stephanie looked great around that time. Also, in that video I posted earlier of the 10 man tag.

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:50 AM

lol Hebner keeps getting owned

Juan 01-15-2009 12:51 AM

Fuck H must've been in some real pain during that Walls of Jericho

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:52 AM

Jericho vs Austin. The greatest fued that never happened. They had a fued and a few matches, but it was cut short by the Invasion. If not for that, it probably would have continued and maybe led to him putting Jericho over. That fuckin Invasion

Juan 01-15-2009 12:52 AM

Love that match

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:55 AM

Such a wonderfully put together finish. Props to HHH for being able to do his part in it too

Jeritron 01-15-2009 12:57 AM

Anyone up for a turn? If not I'll go, if anyone wants to stick around and watch another

Juan 01-15-2009 12:57 AM

I'm in Jerry

Jeritron 01-15-2009 01:00 AM

Okay gimme a sec

Juan 01-15-2009 01:01 AM

Take your time, I'm gonna go have a smoke

Jeritron 01-15-2009 01:07 AM

I was having trouble finding a few obscure Raw main events I was looking for, so I went with this for now.

Breakdown 1998: Cage Match for the #1 Contendership
The Rock vs Mankind vs Ken Shamrock

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Jeritron 01-15-2009 01:09 AM

I'm holding off for now. Lemme know when you're ready to start

Juan 01-15-2009 01:11 AM

Ready Freddy

Jeritron 01-15-2009 01:12 AM

ok go

Jeritron 01-15-2009 01:14 AM

lol at Shamrock's promo

Juan 01-15-2009 01:15 AM

lol gotta love that rock promo

Jeritron 01-15-2009 01:16 AM

I love Foley's here

Juan 01-15-2009 01:16 AM

lol Mankind

Juan 01-15-2009 01:17 AM

woo! Sacramento!

Jeritron 01-15-2009 01:17 AM

rofl "sell that abortion"

Jeritron 01-15-2009 01:18 AM

This is pretty much Shamrock's last hoorah

Jeritron 01-15-2009 01:19 AM

Shamrock is the face going into this, and The Rock is the heel. Pay attention to the crowd

Juan 01-15-2009 01:20 AM

lol @ Lawler's Canada comment

Jeritron 01-15-2009 01:21 AM

The Rock's music here is just plain classic

Jeritron 01-15-2009 01:22 AM

A triple threat cage match is a very strange and interesting match to attempt to pull off.

Jeritron 01-15-2009 01:25 AM

The Rock later used that "you and me team up on him"-then attack his "ally" from behind spot in the Wrestlemania 2000 main event.
I love things like that


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