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Hanso Amore 11-18-2011 09:44 AM

And that comes as a Yankees fan.

Droford 11-18-2011 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 3683633)
I love the idea of giving someone a one game shot at wrestling the Wild Card Spot from the Yankees/Red Sox/Rays

In other words you like the idea that the AL East is gonna send 3 teams to the playoffs pretty much every year.

weather vane 11-18-2011 12:43 PM

http://storage.canoe.ca/v1/dynamic_r...600&quality=85

New logo on the right. I like it!

Aguakate 11-18-2011 01:39 PM

Great to see the new Blue Jays' uniform:



http://i39.tinypic.com/jzh1ja.jpg

Emperor Smeat 11-18-2011 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 3683626)
Valentine comes off as the same type of laid back manager that Tito was. That's the last thing they need.

If worse comes to worst, he could always wear a disguise to fool the players thinking he's someone else like that one time he fooled the umpires by wearing a mustache in the dugout.

It appeared as if the Red Sox were leaning towards Dale Sveum for the new manager but the Cubs got him right after the Red Sox gave him a 2nd interview.

Aguakate 11-18-2011 01:55 PM

Bobby Valentine is exactly what those "divas" the Red Sox have on their roster need. Those players need some fire, and Bobby won't put up with the BS that Terry Francona put up with and let happen.

Skippord 11-18-2011 02:15 PM

Bobby Valentine looks like a leprechaun, just throwing that out there

Hanso Amore 11-18-2011 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3683637)
In other words you like the idea that the AL East is gonna send 3 teams to the playoffs pretty much every year.

Well, good point. If they have the best records then yes. But Its a better chance for teams like the Twins and Angels to sneak in past them.

ClockShot 11-18-2011 03:58 PM

MLB and players agree to a new CBA. We got baseball for another 5 years.

Ryan Doumit to the twins. 1-year, $3 mil.

Supreme Olajuwon 11-18-2011 04:19 PM

Surprised Doumit couldn't get a starting gig somewhere. He's a pretty good hitter for a catcher and is at least passable behind the plate.

Hanso Amore 11-18-2011 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3683924)
Surprised Doumit couldn't get a starting gig somewhere. He's a pretty good hitter for a catcher and is at least passable behind the plate.

I bet he gets alot of play. Mauer hitting DH, playing first, and being injured quite a bit.

Triple Naitch 11-18-2011 06:09 PM

Doumit gets injured a lot too though. He and Mauer splitting time between DH and C gives them both some much needed breaks.

Triple Naitch 11-18-2011 06:10 PM

http://i39.tinypic.com/jzh1ja.jpg

Love the jersey, but I'd rather them use this hat.

http://prime-merchandise.com/jpg/new...oBlueJays2.jpg

Droford 11-18-2011 07:25 PM

there can't be two AL East Teams with Trucker hats

Triple Naitch 11-18-2011 08:05 PM

God forbid

Evil Vito 11-18-2011 08:59 PM

<font color=goldenrod>The Mets have new uniforms for next year as well to celebrate their 50th anniversary.

http://images.scribblelive.com/2011/...60031c_400.png

http://metspolice.com/wp-content/upl...12-jerseys.jpg

Love it. Removing the black dropshadow from the text was a great move. Also they are apparently only wearing the blue caps this year, with the exception of black jersey days which are going to be greatly scaled back and probably eliminated by 2013 in favor of the slick orange-on-blue jersey.

Great move. The Mets wore blue caps with their road greys once in 2008 and people have been calling for it to return ever since.</font>

Triple Naitch 11-18-2011 09:02 PM

The away jersey looks nice. For some reason, I don't like pinstripes with the Mets color scheme.

Aguakate 11-18-2011 09:53 PM

I remember a time when MLB did their "Turn Ahead The Clock" thing, where they had teams come out wearing what they thought would be the jerseys those teams would be wearing in the future, in the new millenium.

Funny thing is that instead of adopting the "futuristic look", teams haven't changed their uniforms much, for the most part (thankfully), and in the case of the Blue Jays, Mets and Orioles, some are actually going back to their classic look.


http://i.imgur.com/egrvs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/93h7C.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TU9C5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ijbUy.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rkWC8.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/p2FML.jpg

ClockShot 11-18-2011 10:14 PM

Indians are trying their hardest to keep Grady Sizemore around for another year.

Dunno. Guy keeps getting injured, but I understand he's a fixture on that team. One more for the gipper I suppose.

OssMan 11-19-2011 12:01 AM

kris benson was the most notable pirate at the time that photo was taken

screech 11-19-2011 12:05 AM

That Rockies one is great.

Hanso Amore 11-19-2011 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 3683988)

Love hats like that.

Actually buried my Grandfather with a hat just like that. He loved the Jays, no idea why :(

Supreme Olajuwon 11-19-2011 09:54 AM

I bet that giant Pirates logo would make the ball really hard to pick up for hitters. Probably the Rockies one too.

Skippord 11-19-2011 10:41 AM

had the Rockies just gone with those uniforms full time they wouldn't have had to put in the humidor

Evil Vito 11-19-2011 10:55 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Those unis were ridiculous. Love how everybody just made blown up versions of their logos...whereas the Mets inferred that the franchise would be moved to another fucking planet. Insane lol.</font>

Skippord 11-19-2011 10:59 AM

they should bring those back like once a year, I would probably buy one

Evil Vito 11-19-2011 11:02 AM

<font color=goldenrod>So apparently yesterday was the day where teams had to add prospects to their 40-man rosters to keep them from being Rule 5 draft eligible. The Mets actually added a whopping 7 players: RHP Jeruys Familia, LHP Robert Carson, 2B Reese Havens, SS Wilmer Flores, OF Kirk Niewenhuis, OF Cesar Puello, and OF Juan Lagares.

Familia, Flores, Puello, and Lagares appear to be at least 2 years away...kinda shocked they've been in the organization long enough where they already have to go on the 40 man. Carson's probably not ready, but will get a token look as a potential 2nd lefty in the pen. Captain Kirk and Havens, if they stay healthy, should probably see their first big league action in 2012 even if its just as September call-ups.

I could see teams taking flyers on pitchers Brad Holt or Collin McHugh in the Rule 5 draft. I'm a little surprised the Mets didn't throw 3B Jefry Marte onto the 40-man, but the odds of a 20 year old position player who hasn't passed Single A yet staying on a big league roster aren't very good.</font>

Evil Vito 11-19-2011 05:10 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Pretty important new change to the CBA: Type A relievers no longer force you to forfeit your 1st round pick. Reason being that every year there are set up guys/middle relievers who get fucked over because no team will forfeit a 1st rounder for a middle reliever.

Phillies still have to forfeit a pick for Papelbon since the signing happened under the old CBA. Bell, K-Rod, and Madson can all be had without losing a pick.</font>

Emperor Smeat 11-19-2011 06:47 PM

Probably would also change how teams deal with Type A players because a lot of times they get put on a waiver as a test to see what the potential trade value could be knowing full well no team can just take them without giving up something (ex. Red Sox with Papelbon a bunch of times).

Evil Vito 11-20-2011 11:11 AM

<font color=goldenrod>The Padres also got screwed by this because they probably would have traded Bell had they known they wouldn't get draft picks for him.

Of course, the likely landing spot for him was the Cardinals and it wound up being a non-issue.</font>

ClockShot 11-20-2011 11:31 AM

from mlbtraderumors.com

Selig is gonna pay a visit to San Francisco within 2 weeks and chat with the Giants top brass about the A's creeping into their turf.

The A's want to relocate to San Jose and build a new stadium there. The Giants got alot of fans in that part of the area and they don't want to be drawn away to the new A's stadium in the future. They need 3.2 million fans to break even on their $130 mil. payroll this upcoming season.

If the Giants don't loosen up on their turf rights, MLB might buy the club, get a new stadium deal, and turn around and sell it off again.

Hanso Amore 11-20-2011 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 3685174)
from mlbtraderumors.com

Selig is gonna pay a visit to San Francisco within 2 weeks and chat with the Giants top brass about the A's creeping into their turf.

The A's want to relocate to San Jose and build a new stadium there. The Giants got alot of fans in that part of the area and they don't want to be drawn away to the new A's stadium in the future. They need 3.2 million fans to break even on their $130 mil. payroll this upcoming season.

If the Giants don't loosen up on their turf rights, MLB might buy the club, get a new stadium deal, and turn around and sell it off again.

Is SJ that much closer to SF than Oakland? Maybe I dont understand the dynamics of the Bay Area. Though Oakland and SF were right across the bay from each other, and SJ was a bit further north. Wouldnt Oakland moving to SJ cause more Oakland area peeps to go into the SF zone?

Triple Naitch 11-20-2011 12:39 PM

http://www.ca.sandia.gov/about/asset...y_area_map.gif

Evil Vito 11-20-2011 01:52 PM

<font color=goldenrod>I wonder if the team would become the San Jose Athletics or if they'd get a new name. They've already moved once and kept the Athletics name.</font>

Aguakate 11-20-2011 01:58 PM

If the Orioles and Nationals could make it work, the Giants and A's should as well.

ClockShot 11-20-2011 09:35 PM

Philllies aquire Ty Wigginton from the Rockies for a PTBNL or Cash. Both teams will split his 2012 $4 mil. salary.

Triple Naitch 11-20-2011 10:32 PM

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LoMoMarlins Logan Morrison



Congrats to the phillies on getting Ty! Great dude and I'm gonna love talking sh** to him!


Skippord 11-21-2011 03:18 AM

I would like for the A's to be called The San JosA's if they move

Skippord 11-21-2011 03:19 AM

also WOOOO NO MORE TY WIGGINTON NOT HITTING IN SCORING POSITION

ClockShot 11-21-2011 07:57 AM

Mariners outfielder Greg Halman was stabbed to death in The Netherlands and his brother has been arrested as a suspect.


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