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Mr. JL 09-08-2010 10:11 AM

I could see this fight looking a lot like Lesnar's fight against Herring. Except that Cain will be more dangerous and will have an extra two rounds to catch Lesnar.

Funky Fly 09-09-2010 01:00 AM

You kow you're saying that to an MMA champ, right?

Someone post the videos plz.

Fignuts 09-09-2010 04:51 AM

lol of all the posters here to say that to.

Krimzon7 09-09-2010 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 3236111)
not true... as long as he is on top and in control, I can totally see him tapping anyone especially with the type of move he used.

now watch out if he cant take someone down right away, because while he works his ass off, he is not comfortable on his feet at all.

This post wasn't really directed at you, with actual fight/game planning experience... But you're right. If G N P can't do the job from mount, then you should be able to pop over for at least a head and arm choke.

Brock isn't comfortable on his feet, but he's progressed so far. There isn't any reason to indicate that he won't be better in Brocktober (I'm a marketing mark) than he was vs Carwin. Now that doesn't mean that he'll be good enough to trade with Cain.

God, it's a great time to be an MMA fan!

Reavant 09-09-2010 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Lui Kang (Post 3237547)
Adrenaline dump is a complete and utter myth. You clearly do not understand Mixed Martial Arts.

You know going for the finish is simply a ko or sub, not actually killing or opponent or a "fatality" if you will

The Mask 09-09-2010 08:32 AM

reavant is a champion now?

BigDaddyCool 09-09-2010 10:10 AM

No I beat him last night.

Reavant 09-09-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mask (Post 3237917)
reavant is a champion now?

have been for over a year... its kinda bs but yea

BigDaddyCool 09-09-2010 11:48 AM

I'm challenging Reavant a fight for the championship. Hardcore rules.

El Capitano Gatisto 09-09-2010 02:02 PM

"Adrenaline dump" is an MMA term but a real thing, but it shouldn't be happening to a professional fighter at the highest level, it's still a form of gassing at the end of the day. It suggests he hadn't prepared or warmed up properly, or he was absolutely terrified. To me it just looked like Carwin punched himself out. He threw a lot of punches without doing a substantial amount of damage.

The Mask 09-09-2010 02:07 PM

i'm sure it's real but probably overused as an excuse when fat cunts who didn't put in the work gas themselves out. or it could just be viewed as that period before you get your second wind, although ideally you'd be going into the fight on your second wind already i think.

The Mask 09-09-2010 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 3238080)
have been for over a year... its kinda bs but yea

i looked it up :cool: nice. are you still amateur then? what's the plan? also how much do you weigh in at?

El Capitano Gatisto 09-09-2010 03:17 PM

I think in many other fights, the number of undefended punches Carwin landed on the floor may have seen it stopped. As it was, he got excited and gassed himself out throwing too many crap punches, instead of picking out good ones.

The Mask 09-09-2010 03:25 PM

brock was still intelligently defending himself. it looked a close call at the time but in retrospect it was right to let it go on, and not because brock won.

Funky Fly 09-09-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lui Kang (Post 3238348)
Claiming that Carwin lost to Lesnar due to this adenaline dump nonsense gives no respect to Lesnar whatsoever. Lesnar won because he is a better fighter. Period. People just hate on Lesnar due to his sports-entertainment background.

K, I am not one to doubt Lesnar at all. If you don't believe it, look it up. Listen carefully now, Brock is good and all, but Carwin tired himself the fuck out going Donkey Kong on Lesnar. Lesnar said himself in the post fight interview that he waited for Carwin to tire, so relax buddy.

Reavant 09-09-2010 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto (Post 3238294)
"Adrenaline dump" is an MMA term but a real thing, but it shouldn't be happening to a professional fighter at the highest level, it's still a form of gassing at the end of the day. It suggests he hadn't prepared or warmed up properly, or he was absolutely terrified. To me it just looked like Carwin punched himself out. He threw a lot of punches without doing a substantial amount of damage.

exactly, he went to capitalize and went ballistic. Throwing a ton of punches and being extremely active. Carwin may have very well been in fantastic shape however you need a lot of oxygen to go to all those muscles he has, and if you deprive them of that for too long and exert yourself that hard during the time your not taking air in, your muscles are going to shut down just like they did.

Reavant 09-09-2010 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mask (Post 3238306)
i looked it up :cool: nice. are you still amateur then? what's the plan? also how much do you weigh in at?

yes. duno yet have a job thats putting fighting on hold. 265

Reavant 09-09-2010 05:56 PM

had brock been in the same position as carwin and reacted the same way, he would have gassed as well.

The Mask 09-09-2010 06:19 PM

are you actually 265 or just fight at that?

The Naitch 09-09-2010 06:20 PM

Reavent has always reminded me of Kane

Funky Fly 09-09-2010 06:27 PM

He's got a lion mane now, so stick a mask on him and he might look like old school Kane.

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 09-09-2010 06:36 PM

I'm sure Tim Sylvia once took a huge adrenaline dump in his shorts.

The Naitch 09-09-2010 06:49 PM

that was Psycho Sid

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 09-09-2010 06:53 PM

http://a.imageshack.us/img824/2818/fd2323rd2.jpg

Reavant 09-09-2010 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mask (Post 3238697)
are you actually 265 or just fight at that?

i generally come down from above that

The Naitch 10-15-2010 09:09 PM

anyone been watching the UFC Primetime?

Lesnar's physique is even more impressive now. He seems to be getting better and better as time goes by

I read in the Matt Hughes book that Brock came into the Miletich gym, rolled around for a bit, did something wrong against gym etiquette, and Pat said "Hey we don't do that here!" He was never seen at that gym again. This was around 2005

Reavant 10-16-2010 04:00 AM

Yea he looks great... he had to change his diet around after the sickness which is probably why he looks so lean

Krimzon7 10-16-2010 08:51 AM

Great may not even be a good enough word, Seriously. In the first show, he was jumping rope, and I was just amazed at how put together he looked. This guy was never in bad shape! But his physique now makes his earlier days look like Brock the fatty

Krimzon7 10-16-2010 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 3285355)
Yea he looks great... he had to change his diet around after the sickness which is probably why he looks so lean

While I can respect the fact that he's a private guy, I really wish we could get a look at his diet, and what he's changed.

Lui Kang 10-17-2010 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Krimzon7 (Post 3285493)
While I can respect the fact that he's a private guy, I really wish we could get a look at his diet, and what he's changed.

Agreed.

The only thing I can think of is that he cut down on his carbs. My guess is that as a professional athlete, his sugar intake way pretty low to begin with. His protein consumption has probably always been pretty high.

Krimzon7 10-17-2010 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lui Kang (Post 3286339)
Agreed.

The only thing I can think of is that he cut down on his carbs. My guess is that as a professional athlete, his sugar intake way pretty low to begin with. His protein consumption has probably always been pretty high.


It's be interesting. I'd shit myself laughing if Brock came back talking about him becoming a vegan or some silly shit!

Kris P Lettus 10-17-2010 12:00 PM

Got $100 on Brock..

Reavant 10-17-2010 03:26 PM

He actually started eating more carbs like vegtables. He said his diet before consisted mainly of what he hunted so I imagine he had a higher cholesterol from all the red meat.

Krimzon7 10-17-2010 09:35 PM

Brock should come out in full Conan garb. If anderson silva/gsp can come out in a GI

Brock should come out in a loin cloth with a fucking axe.

Kris P Lettus 10-17-2010 10:07 PM

He should be carried by tiny Asians on a throne..

Funky Fly 10-23-2010 03:11 PM

Fucking pumped.

*sticky*

VSG 10-23-2010 03:16 PM

Ya, tonight should be good. Good food, beverages and a great fight looms ahead :y:

Savio 10-23-2010 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 3294053)
Fucking pumped.

*sticky*

Should prob change the name if you sticky. THERE ARE OTHER MATCHES ON THE CARD.

I want to see Tito vs Hamill myself. If Tito loses his career is over.

Funky Fly 10-23-2010 03:21 PM

FINE SAVIOR

The Show Off 10-23-2010 03:22 PM

I always get caught up in how guys look at the weigh in as if that somehow is a crystal ball to the future.

For example I saw how shreaded Tito Ortiz looked at the weigh in I was like "Damn Tito is back!" and then I realize... no that's fucking stupid.

That isn't to say that Brock isn't in better shape than he has been in the past just I'm not sure if that's going to matter come tonight. This match is such a toss up. As I've said before these two are so new to fighting that its hard to say who will win because they'll both be totally different fighters come tonight than we've seen before. The newer a fighter is to the sport the less you can extrapolate from their previous fights.


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