Lost - Season 5 - Someone get Jack a drink!
 

I love drunk, pain killer addicted Jack. So many questions. Thing i'm pretty positive about. 1) Jin is alive. Its just logic. He knew the freighter was blowing any second and the helicopter was already gone. There was no time to come back and get him. He surely jumped off the ship. 2) Hurley is still fat. 3) Jack really looked like a bum at the end of season 4. It was great. The slow transformation of Jack from the very first ep to now is amazing. He went from being a good guy, a savior, a guy who didnt want to let people down, but stuck to his morals, to a guy who tried to kill Locke and basically would do anything to get everyone off the island, and in doing so, going against all his morals. Now he's a drunk bum back in the states and apparently ( i forget if they showed why) really did something bad to make Kate hate him. Great stuff.

Things i gotta know. 1) The polar bear that was in the desert when Ben left the island. That was a huge wtf. 2) Is Claire dead or alive or dead and alive? WTF? 3) One thing that someone reminded me of that i went back and watched in the 1st season was the scene where the pilot got killed by the black smoke monster and Kate, Charlie and Jack ran. And Jack came out of nowhere and looked funny and Kate and Charlie wondered where he went. That was weird. I wonder if something was up with that

Also, why didnt Ben kill Widmore? I wonder if Widmore is his constant?

And the Black Rock book that Widmore won at the auction. Whats the deal there. They said no one had read it but the family that owned it.

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Jin isnt dead for this reason i think. Why else would Sun go back? She has her baby and she thinks Jin is dead. Something has to make her think Jin is alive, or else she has no reason to return to the Island with the rest of the 5. She wouldnt just go back and leave her child or bring her child for that matter.

Also, i get this sneaking feeling that Sun will be a major badass. Like kicking peoples shit in to look for Jin, type bad ass.

First.. screw spoilers. If they arent caught up, then they shouldnt be clicking the Season 5 thread.

Sawyer didnt swim it out from the freighter. He jumped off less then half way because the helicopter had too much weight on it.

I read that thing Req posted a long time ago, but i forget it now. He should repost.

Isn't it possible that the stuff with Jin running around with the stuffed panda was a flash forward scene? I mean that's what I figured it was. Maybe he got picked up by another boat and brought back to Asia. And then since Sun and her father are going to fight, perhaps Sun's father told Jin that Sun is dead or something.

no

He was running an eron ( sp? ) for Sun's dad, aka his boss. It was for some other business guy associate.

I know that. I'm saying perhaps he goes back to work for Sun's dad in the future. And since they foreshadowed a dispute between Sun and her father, perhaps Sun's father will manipulate Jin in some way to have him come back to work.

YEAH

No

The whole thing is that Jin think's he has to be Sun's, dads , slave. So these errands are important not to fuck up. I dont think they were foreshadowing, now look. I cant say that for positive because this show has potential to do that, but i think you guys are thinking way outside the box here. Why would Sun not know that Jin is still working for her father even though she thinks he's dead. Wouldnt make much sense after all the stuff they went through after the island.

Nah.

Also another thing. Charlotte could understand Jin and Sun's language. There's something to that. There is a reason she can understand there language. Meaning there is a reason the writers made it so that she understood what they could say. That wasnt just a random thing imo. There's gunna be more there. No one but Sun could translate Jin completley. Now Charlotte can. And she's still on the island. So i'm positive he's alive. No doubt.

It's the mob, man. They have all sorts of secret connections. He could be in China or Japan for all we know.

That would totally go against what we know about the Jin/ Sun relationship though. Plus they have a kid now. I just cant believe that Jin wouldnt even try to make contact with her.

Watch that episode again. I will. I got it on my computer. It was settled there. It was a tease episode. You were made to believe that it was scene's from after they got off the island and then at the end, it wasnt.

The whole episode was made to believe that Jin was trying to buy a bear for HIS son, because Sun was in labor. But at the end, it turned out to be an associate of Sun's dad who he was running an errand for.

it could've been a double swerve. Like after you watch the episode you're like oh ok Jin's actually dead and that was just a flashback to when he still worked for Sun's father when in actuality it WAS a flash forward but not a flash forward you could've predicted.

I'm most excited to see what happens with Linus and Sayid. Gonna be sweeeeeeeeeeet

http://www.timelooptheory.com

Still the most solid theory of this show that I've read.

" 1. "He changed the rules" According to the theory, in Ben's original timeline, Alex didn't die. When Widmore's men killed Alex, they altered the events that had happened in Ben's original timeline. Ben was completely shocked because he didn't think that Alex could die in the new timeline, given she survived in the original timeline. Thus, he has to balance the universe by trying to make up for her death: Killing Penny."

I like this theory

I dont think Ben even knows Desmond. I dont recall a scene with them in it together.

Its all getting a wee bit Quantum Leapish people

Ok this whole Sun/Jin thing

As far as I was concerned, it was one in the past for Jin and one in the future for Sun.

You really think if Jin was still working for Sun's Dad that they wouldn't of crossed paths? Even just walking randomly on the streets as he was doing jobs like picking up a teddy bear?

That theory is pretty good.

I am so pumped for this shit.

The thing I hate about this show is that while I think they had a broad idea of the entire series in the start, but have added and dropped so many things.

Like I honestly doubt we will ever find out why there were dead people in the cave in season 1, or why there was a 4 toed statue, or what the smoke monster really is, and the numbers etc.

I am missing the relevance...

Ben knows everyone.

Weren't they together when the camps decided to split?

January 10th?

Yeah it's definitely January 10th

I am still missing the relevance of the 8th/10th

Call me retarded if I am, but I am just missing any point of it.

Also...Ben is trying to round up everyone who left.

I wonder if that means they need to find Desmond, who is on the run with Penny...

And Ben Wants to Kill penny.

Ooooooooo

What if it is all a ploy to get to Penny...

0110 or 0108?

Doesnt seem like a huge deal, just a little coincidence.

oh, my bad,,,I thought it was suppose to blow my mind!

Well 108 does have a big part in the show. As you probably already know:

4 + 8 + 15 + 16 + 23 + 42 = 108

That code must be put into the computer every 108 minutes.

Also 108 is a significant number in Hinduism which seems tied into the Dharma Initiative.

Good Shit

Any of you guys have links to sites with all this kind of theories and stuff?

I want to learn way more about Dharma, but will we ever?