Who would win in a clean WWE match- Ryback or Brock Lesnar?
 

If the 2 face each other in a clean WWE match (without outside interferences, dirty tricks, etc)- who would win?

Whoever the bookers want to win?

This guy loves his polls.

Damn you CK, was just coming to steal owenbrowns spoiler joke...

If Brock Lesnar agreed to sign on with the WWE full-time, they would put him over Ryback in a heart beat.

Only if Ryback got a rematch and won it. There's no way WWE would use Ryback, a guy they're looking at as the next Cena, just to put over Brock Lesnar. That's ridiculous.

I mean, I know they've seemed completely inept when it comes to building guys up recently but with Ryback being Vince's prototypical superstar, even I don't think they could fuck up THAT bad.

Brock

Ryback and think they could have easily set up an eventual match between them had they gone with a Lesnar run-in or at least a tease during the past Hell in a Cell ppv.

Have zero desire to see a Ryback/Lesnar match.

Goldberg

The fans.

Why!?!?!?!?

I seriously can't think of any realistic matches I would be more juiced for. It's the perfect legit badass fighter vs the legit badass pro wrestler. Especially if they keep Ryback looking unstoppable, the idea of building the match based on "Holy shit, Lesnar could actually not only lose but get the shit kicked out of him in the process but Ryback could very well suffer the same fate." is everything a "big fight feel" is made of.

Remember Goldberg/Lesnar? Yeah....

There's a HUGE difference between two guys who were "old news" and on their way out of the company in a match that had no barring on the future and an insanely built up new star facing a guy who just returned from the UFC where he became a bigger star than he ever was before and became known as a legit monster.

They aren't even close to the same situation.

Until Ryback proves to me that he is more than a flash in the pan, I don't want to see one of Lesnar's few bouts "wasted" on him.

I think that the match would be serious business and ultimately it would be a draw. They would rassle for 67.6 minutes w/out a pin or submission and would decide to not fight snymore but to go to Golden Coral and enjoy the chocolate fountain together.

Yeah, I'm totally on board with those who do not give two shits about Ryback vs. Lesnar. Brock is one of the most freakishly unique talents of all-time. The guy had an amazing grasp of professional wrestling, could work a marathon or a sprint effectively, and is legitimately one of the toughest son of a bitches in the world.

Ryback is booked as a monster because he is jacked.

It'd be like putting Shawn Michaels in the ring with Romeo Roselli because they are both associated with "Heartbreak."

That was hyperbole, before you get upset, #1-wwf-fan.

But I will say this: Daniel Bryan is closer to being Kurt Angle than Ryback is to being Brock Lesnar.

That's what she said.

... It's pro wrestling though. It doesn't matter why he's booked as a monster. If he's booked as a monster, then within the world of pro wrestling, he is a monster. And if he's booked as such, he is as much of a monster as Lesnar within the world of pro wrestling.

Lesnar would destroy John Cena or Triple H in a real fight in seconds. Within the world of wrestling, they are booked with enough "heart" to either overcome or come damn near close. Ryback is being booked as being unstoppable. Therefore he is. Lesnar has a legit background of being unstoppable that they have exploited for his character.

Basically, my point is it's sports entertainment. People are what they are booked as. And the way they've been booked, Ryback vs Lesnar is a fucking must see. Unstoppable monster vs unstoppable monster and something has to give. Like I said, it screams "big fight feel" in a way wrestling matches nowadays tend not to with everyone losing and looking more and more mortal on free TV on a weekly basis.

Ryback isn't that much bigger than Cena. Actually Cena has bigger arms and Ryback just has a more jacked chest. Brock is bigger than Ryback.

The real question is how would they have faired against Andre the Giant? I'm totally off the ryback bandwagon now b/c he lost and now I don't care anymore, no more, no more. It's like ever since he lost he's no son of mine. But I could see it coming in the air that ryback was going to lose. Ryback was rushed and like love, you can't hurry it.

Ryback would beat Andre because Ryback has a better record than Andre did. Lesnar would lose to Andre because Andre had a better record than Lesnar.

It's science.

So let's put Trent Barreta over Sheamus tomorrow. People will buy that, and suddenly Trent Barreta vs. John Cena will be a must-see.

So does that make Lawrence Taylor and Jay Leno the greatest rasslers alive?

Yes because Ryback being built up for a year as unstoppable before facing Brock Lesnar is the equivalent of Trent Barreta going from NXT jobber to beating Sheamus tomorrow.

Jesus Christ, really? lol

Yes

If in your world worth can be completely kayfabed, then yes, it is.

There is no "worth" kayfabe-wise in Barreta being horrible for years.

There is "worth" in dominating for a year, destroying people and making the WWE champion scared shitless to be in the same ring with you.

Let Baretta suddenly figure out how to be a wrestling machine kayfabe-wise and strike fear into opponents for a while then we can discuss that. Beating Sheamus tomorrow would only make him this generation's 1-2-3 Kid. If he starts winning on a regular basis, then it can start being a fair comparison.

You're trying to compare Ryback and Brock Lesnar, and you want fair comparisons?

If Barreta beat Sheamus clean, then in a kayfabe sense he is better than Sheamus who was just World Heavyweight Champion. Suddenly Big Show vs. Barreta becomes a dream match, right?

In what way am I trying to compare Ryback and Brock Lesnar? By saying that a WrestleMania match between Lesnar and the guy Vince in grooming to be the next wrestling mega-star would be huge? Does the comparison fail simply because you don't like Ryback. So fuck the fact that audiences seem to dig the guy. You don't like him. BRING ON HUNICO VS. LESNAR!

But if Hunico went on a winning streak for a couple of weeks, that would be awesome, right? :roll:

Triple H vs. The Undertaker captures my imagination more than Lesnar vs. Ryback. The most interesting thing about Lesnar vs. Ryback is that there are six letters in each of their names, so the WWE can use symmetrical block lettering to promote the match.

But Hunico has that as well. I say the WWE should go forward with that.

No. It means he's Barry Horrowitz. If he is actually booked consistantly to look like a threat, then we can talk. Of course if the crowd doesn't buy into him then WWE would be foolish to keep trying with him. That doesn't mean they couldn't in theory book him to be a threat kayfabe-wise. It would just be a dumb thing to do if he draws like shit.

No. Because Hunico sucks. If they built him up to where he was destroying main eventers I would say "Hey, Hunico looks like a threat. He's destroying main eventers... This company is gonna go out of business very soon because no one gives a fuck about this guy."