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MisterLee 07-30-2012 02:02 PM

Raw Thread for 07/30/12 - CM Punk: Hopefully It Wont Take The Whole 3 Hours To Convince You All That I'm Heel
 
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LET THE 3 HOUR EXTRAVAGANZA OF TWITTER FEEDS, REPLAYS, AND 1 MINUTE MATCHES BEGIN!

ooTin 07-30-2012 02:18 PM

is there a question in there that i missed?
or are we just supposed to talk aboot what ever?

Big Vic 07-30-2012 03:37 PM

He was cheered at a house show this past week.

Corporate CockSnogger 07-30-2012 03:41 PM

He'll most definitely get cheered right up until he says something to insult the crowd or something. That is if they're going full heel with him and not doing a slow turn.

Cuse8 07-30-2012 03:42 PM

where is raw tonight? make fun of a local sports team and whamo..heel

Brigstocke 07-30-2012 03:44 PM

He's at a point where half the crowd will cheer him whatever he does. It will take work to get a full on heel reaction now.

Unless by some coincidink Raw is in Miami tonight.

Big Vic 07-30-2012 04:14 PM

YOU NEVER GO FULL HEEL

Cool King 07-30-2012 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 3935126)
He'll most definitely get cheered right up until he says something to insult the crowd or something. That is if they're going full heel with him and not doing a slow turn.

Well, he could open the show tonight, right after a vignette has played recapping what he did last week and then the Raw intro.

Then he'll most probably get boos as his "bad actions" will be fresh in the minds of the crowd.

MisterLee 07-30-2012 04:28 PM

Got a text...

Quote:

BREAKING NEWS: WWE Champion CM Punk speaks at 8/7 CT on Raw tonight. Will he address his actions from last week @ Raw 1000?
DUN DUN DUN! LOL. Yeah I think it's going to be nearly impossible for CM Punk to go full heel the way he is now. On top of that, as much as people love The Rock, there were quite a few BOOs on his return last week.

Volare 07-30-2012 05:08 PM

He could always re-dig up the shit he said about Rock a year ago on his way to MITB.

Supreme Olajuwon 07-30-2012 05:10 PM

I predict this will be the most exciting Raw of all time!

Volare 07-30-2012 05:13 PM

In The History Of Our Sport!

Supreme Olajuwon 07-30-2012 05:18 PM

YEEEEEEEEEEE HAW

Keith 07-30-2012 05:26 PM

I'm feeling a lot of people will be disappointed when RAW ends and they find out that CM Punk isn't making a full-fledged heel turn.

Rammsteinmad 07-30-2012 05:44 PM

I've got a good feeling, and definitely hope that this won't be a full-on heel turn, but will be similar to Punk's pipebomb and comments about "Duane" last year. Eve planted the seeds a few weeks back when she mentioned how Punk has been champ for about eight months, yet is still being overshadowed by the likes of Cena and the Rock etc, and this is basically Punk saying "enough is enough".

It doesn't even need to be a full-on heel turn. Punk is hugely over right now, and has never held back any of his beef against the Rock, including that comment back in 2009 or whenever when he mentioned "Crappy Disney movies like the Tooth Fairy". Punk has pulled twice his weight over the last year, just for some movie star to come in and take the main event spotlight. And the great thing about Punk's character and gimmick is that he's an honest, 'take-no-prisoners' guy, so if he has to go after the main event faces to take the spotlight that he feels is his, it really works with his character whether he's a face or a heel.

Either way, unless they go the Guerrero/Jericho/Silence/Troll route... I'm predicting an awesome promo on Raw tonight. :y:

Corporate CockSnogger 07-30-2012 05:47 PM

He should start calling people Slapnuts and hitting them with guitars.

whiteyford 07-30-2012 05:49 PM

You've moved on from Billy Gunn already?

Supreme Olajuwon 07-30-2012 05:49 PM

I personally do not give a "mother fucking shit" if Punk is "full heel" "half heel" "quarter heel" or "not heel at all" and think the people making a big deal out of it are "stupid fucking twats"

Rammsteinmad 07-30-2012 05:51 PM

If, by that comment, you mean that Punk is fucking awesome no matter what he does, then I fully agree. :y:

Supreme Olajuwon 07-30-2012 05:51 PM

I did!

Supreme Olajuwon 07-30-2012 05:51 PM

you understand me!

#1-norm-fan 07-30-2012 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 3935126)
He'll most definitely get cheered right up until he says something to insult the crowd or something. That is if they're going full heel with him and not doing a slow turn.

I really want him to go "justified" with his actions and not do some stereotypical "I hate the fans now because I'm a heel." I'm hoping for something along the lines of the shoot promo last year where he's just being honest and not doing "wrestling heel" stuff. Basically not changing his gimmick at all but it so happens he's targeting a beloved face and his reasons are valid. No cheating to win or anything. Here's how I'm hoping his promo goes...

"Cena. I'll repeat this again. I don't hate you. I actually do like you alot more than most of the guys. But over the past year, everything I said last June has just been proven right. It's the same old song and dance. I bust my ass, I win the WWE championship and fight my way through the longest reign this company has seen in years, I prove night in night out that I'm the best in the world... all while the spotlight stays planted firmly on you. While the company looks right past me... to their golden child. So forgive me if I wasn't quite in the mood last week to be save the day while The Big Show was pummeling you so that the headline could read 'Golden boy John Cena heroically fends off attack'. This company wanted you in the spotlight. So I let you be in the spotlight. For better or worse. I walked away.

But then something happened. I heard that music. I saw The Rock come out. The one man with the ego and the unwarranted adoration from this company enough to rob that spotlight. You're a grown man, John Cena, you can fight The Big Show one on one, do you think Dwayne gave a damn about saving you? No. Dwayne saw a moment to steal the spotlight again like the egomaniacal bastard he is and came out after another long vacation only to be the center of attention and leave again until it comes time to hype his Royal Rumble main event. Oh and trust me, now that Dwayne's involved, this title will get the main event spot.

So I decided I'd rob Dwayne of his moment. For once, me, the longest reigning WWE Champion in 7 years was actually getting the chance to shine. You can call me a good guy, call me a bad guy. I don't care. Because the bottom line is, I did it for everybody who's had to sit and watch a guy like The Rock get all of this undeserved credit and get title matches handed to him on a silver platter while he's off in Hollywood not giving a second thought to this damn business. I did what I did... for professional wrestling."

Rammsteinmad 07-30-2012 06:15 PM

I like. :y:

And it basically echoes what I said. Punk has the right tools to make this work, justifying what he did without being a generic heel.

Savio 07-30-2012 06:16 PM

Supreme is not presenting this though? :nono:

Cuse8 07-30-2012 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3935212)
I've got a good feeling, and definitely hope that this won't be a full-on heel turn, but will be similar to Punk's pipebomb and comments about "Duane" last year. Eve planted the seeds a few weeks back when she mentioned how Punk has been champ for about eight months, yet is still being overshadowed by the likes of Cena and the Rock etc, and this is basically Punk saying "enough is enough".

It doesn't even need to be a full-on heel turn. Punk is hugely over right now, and has never held back any of his beef against the Rock, including that comment back in 2009 or whenever when he mentioned "Crappy Disney movies like the Tooth Fairy". Punk has pulled twice his weight over the last year, just for some movie star to come in and take the main event spotlight. And the great thing about Punk's character and gimmick is that he's an honest, 'take-no-prisoners' guy, so if he has to go after the main event faces to take the spotlight that he feels is his, it really works with his character whether he's a face or a heel.

Either way, unless they go the Guerrero/Jericho/Silence/Troll route... I'm predicting an awesome promo on Raw tonight. :y:

dead on man..couldnt agree more

Supreme Olajuwon 07-30-2012 07:36 PM

I wonder if Heath Slater will be featured in some capacity tonight or if they're done with him for now.

Supreme Olajuwon 07-30-2012 07:36 PM

Dude deserves a nice little US Title run IMO

and it's like they're doing anything else with the belt

Keith 07-30-2012 07:37 PM

This is perfect. I'm anxious to see what happens next with CM Punk, and RAW starts an hour early.

Gimme a hell yeah!

Heisenberg 07-30-2012 07:43 PM

I'm gonna let Punk do his thing, I'm more worried about having the same Nickelback bullshit for the theme, I'm hoping it's changed.

Immortal Moose 07-30-2012 07:47 PM

lol they just showed the fire on USA.

Cool King 07-30-2012 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWE.COM

Raw set catches fire, show will go on at 8/7 CT

CINCINNATI - A fire at the U.S. Bank Arena has broken out at Monday Night Raw after the set caught fire during preparations for tonight's show. No Superstars or WWE executives were hurt in the incident and the show will go on at 8/7 CT

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2012-07...raw-start-time

Blakeamus 07-30-2012 07:57 PM

Already starting to be a GREAT RAW!

Lock Jaw 07-30-2012 07:58 PM

I bet they'll reveal that CM Punk was behind the fire. Trying anything to get people to boo.

parkmania 07-30-2012 08:05 PM

Yeah, was about to say that I bet they didn't open with Punk in the ring. Give the fans a chance to file in after the fire so they get to see the pipe bomb.

GD 07-30-2012 08:06 PM

Punk is here biches!

Cool King 07-30-2012 08:06 PM

Well, I was kinda close. I guess.

PorkSoda 07-30-2012 08:07 PM

Can anyone give me a stream? Somewhere? Anywhere?

Droford 07-30-2012 08:07 PM

nwo wolfpack and bwo shirts behind he announcers lol

Immortal Moose 07-30-2012 08:07 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Shame we didn't have <a href="https://twitter.com/cmpunk"><s>@</s><b>cmpunk</b></a> come out to "This Fire Burns" <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23RAWTonight"><s>#</s><b>RAWTonight</b></a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/230091890471624704" data-datetime="2012-07-31T00:05:56+00:00">July 31, 2012</a></blockquote>
<script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Cool King 07-30-2012 08:07 PM

Damn, I forgot AJ was the new GM. :(

Droford 07-30-2012 08:08 PM

punk v lawler to dolififybthe heel turn

Keith 07-30-2012 08:09 PM

This is awesome, and it's just starting.

#1-norm-fan 07-30-2012 08:09 PM

They're using Lawler's line... FUCKING AWESOME.

And I'm LOVING how this is starting.

#1-norm-fan 07-30-2012 08:11 PM

Punk taking genuine offense to the thought that he turned on the WWE universe and singling out Rock as a douche.

This is exactly what I was hoping for. Hopefully they keep this up and don't go full heel.

Droford 07-30-2012 08:11 PM

i wonder what cole :s writing

KIRA 07-30-2012 08:11 PM

I love CM Punks heel roles he always has a legit gripe

#1-norm-fan 07-30-2012 08:13 PM

Holy shit. I love it.

Tazz Dan 07-30-2012 08:13 PM

Sticking with the new opening

Tazz Dan 07-30-2012 08:13 PM

So I posted that 10 minutes ago

Emperor Smeat 07-30-2012 08:16 PM

Loved that "pipe-bomb" esque promo by Punk.

GSP 07-30-2012 08:16 PM

I love punks reaction leaning on the ropes lol

Droford 07-30-2012 08:16 PM

took cena long enough

parkmania 07-30-2012 08:17 PM

She earned her last name!!!


YES!!!

YES!!!

YES!!!

Cool King 07-30-2012 08:18 PM

Oh fuck, she's Stephanie McMahon II.

KIRA 07-30-2012 08:18 PM

the corporate look does not become her

#1-norm-fan 07-30-2012 08:18 PM

Who the fuck is Punk talking to right now? lol

Emperor Smeat 07-30-2012 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 3935390)
Who the fuck is Punk talking to right now? lol

Little Jimmy or maybe Little Punky for him :shifty:

GD 07-30-2012 08:22 PM

Quite honestly, Punk deserves to be in the spotlight. He has had amazing matches in his reign. Yet he has been out of the "main event" last PPV match for over a year now.

Tazz Dan 07-30-2012 08:23 PM

Give the title to Antonio

Droford 07-30-2012 08:24 PM

no car..hmm

Cool King 07-30-2012 08:24 PM

Punk made sense when he was talking to Lawler.

Rollermacka 07-30-2012 08:24 PM

No car?

el bobbo 07-30-2012 08:24 PM

Haven't we seen this match?

el bobbo 07-30-2012 08:25 PM

Every time they push Del Rio, they say he's getting more vicious.

GD 07-30-2012 08:27 PM

I just shot a TOUT. I am actually hoping that it airs :p

Tazz Dan 07-30-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 3935398)
Punk made sense when he was talking to Lawler.

Which is why he'll make a great heel.

Savio 07-30-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 3935389)
the corporate look does not become her

Yes, also I told you Punk would not go Full on heel

#1-norm-fan 07-30-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 3935398)
Punk made sense when he was talking to Lawler.

"Last time I checked, The Rock was not the WWE Universe" was pretty brilliant.

Tazz Dan 07-30-2012 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 3935403)
I just shot a TOUT. I am actually hoping that it airs :p

Really wanted to edit that to 'I just shot a homeless man', but I controlled myself ;)

#1-norm-fan 07-30-2012 08:30 PM

Also, I did not expect Del Rio vs Santino to go through a commercial break. I'd love for them to actually make this match competitive and make Santino seem like a legit threat but it's more likely that they're just stretching it out to fill three hours.

Savio 07-30-2012 08:31 PM

these 2 always fight

parkmania 07-30-2012 08:32 PM

Santino hanging with ADR...


Cool!

Cool King 07-30-2012 08:32 PM

I'm liking Del Rio's attire tonight.

Skippord 07-30-2012 08:34 PM

they should really do this Del Rio/Santino match about 400 more times

I do not like either of them so that may be why it bothers me

Droford 07-30-2012 08:34 PM

case hes so hiiii...high above me

GD 07-30-2012 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 3935408)
Really wanted to edit that to 'I just shot a homeless man', but I controlled myself ;)

Yo Momma!

#1-norm-fan 07-30-2012 08:34 PM

I hope they take an injury angle out of this and Santino has to give up the title so it goes up in a tournament with the finals happening at SummerSlam.

Cool King 07-30-2012 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 3935419)
I hope they take an injury angle out of this and Santino has to give up the title so it goes up in a tournament with the finals happening at SummerSlam.

Here's hoping.

Poit 07-30-2012 08:39 PM

Add an extra hour to Raw, have Brodus's entrance start during commercial.

Brilliant.

#1-norm-fan 07-30-2012 08:39 PM

Ziggler vs Brodus??

Hmm...

Droford 07-30-2012 08:40 PM

she needs to be excused

#1-norm-fan 07-30-2012 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poit (Post 3935422)
Add an extra hour to Raw, have Brodus's entrance start during commercial.

Brilliant.

Seriously. lol

parkmania 07-30-2012 08:40 PM

An extra hour and they still find time for jobber entrances???


<sigh>

DirtyD 07-30-2012 08:40 PM

Now it's obvious they are just filling time but Vickie kicks ass on da flo

#1-norm-fan 07-30-2012 08:40 PM

What is going on right now...

Cool King 07-30-2012 08:40 PM

Vickie dances like a mother.

Rollermacka 07-30-2012 08:41 PM

... and we get dancing

Heisenberg 07-30-2012 08:41 PM

Thank you Mr. Sandow

Poit 07-30-2012 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 3935429)
Vickie dances like a mother.

She is a mother.

dronepool 07-30-2012 08:41 PM

This guy is annoying. Not a fan so far even though Clay sucks more.

Tazz Dan 07-30-2012 08:41 PM

Billy Gunn :love:

Skippord 07-30-2012 08:42 PM

Sandow is my favorite

KIRA 07-30-2012 08:42 PM

Sandow is like The Genius 2.0

Rollermacka 07-30-2012 08:42 PM

... that's it?

Droford 07-30-2012 08:43 PM

hes still my idol

Emperor Smeat 07-30-2012 08:43 PM

:-\ no cartwheel by Sandow.

Droford 07-30-2012 08:44 PM

old man jericho...

Tazz Dan 07-30-2012 08:44 PM

Punk totally steamed Ziggler's promo

Innovator 07-30-2012 08:45 PM

Woo the return of vitamin c!

KIRA 07-30-2012 08:45 PM

so... jericho face or heel or is he living in that gray area that seems to be so popular these days?


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