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Daniel Bryan "Injury" update on the E&C Pod of Awesome

Just going to paste what I posted on the front page because it's really fucking annoying hearing him talk about it, just because we should be seeing him wrestle right now.

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Daniel Bryan was a guest on the <a href="https://art19.com/shows/ecs-pod-of-awesomeness">Edge & Christian Pod of Awesome</a> and goddamn, was that ever a source of information again. It's a long interview that I would recommend you listen to, so I'm not going to quote it word for word, but I've gone from my Shibata-level "God I hope Bryan never works again or he could die" to "Ohhh, now I get why you agreed to retire, was emotional after it, but want to wrestle anyway" because it feels like he was led on to a substantial degree.

After his last concussion, he went and got cleared by his own doctor. I think that's common knowledge by this point. It wasn't enough for WWE and Vince, so they sent him to a hand picked concussion specialist in Phoenix place and... They cleared him. Clearly something must be wrong according to WWE so they sent him to UCLA where they, say it with me, cleared him. Finally he gets sent to get some experimental things done, things that aren't FDA approved like reflex and impact testing while hooked up to a brain scanner and they come back to him and say he has a lesion in a certain region on his brain. He calls Vince and he's crying when he got off the phone thinking his career is done and the next week Vince calls him up and asks him to do the retirement speech which he didn't want to do, but was convinced in the end it was for the best.

Fast forward a little and after that dies down, one of the doctors that clears him calls him up and asks why he retired. He tells the doctor that they found a lesion on his brain, but the doctor tells him that in medical terminology that doesn't mean what it normally means. Bryan thinks it means he has a cut on his brain, but the doctor says a lesion just means "something" is there. The doctor looks at his report and all it says is that a certain region of his brain was slower than expected to react so they wrote it as a lesion. The stupid thing here is that the region of his brain was slow compared to MMA fighters and football players who usually use that region of their brain, not slow compared to a normal goddamn person. They didn't have a baseline for how fast the reflex in that part of his brain used to be, so how can they make that call? He went to the Joe Namath institute to get more tests done and they said his brain is no different from a college football player. He has had some concussions, but he is not at risk of brain damage. He has had even more testing done and they say tha with the time he has had out of wrestling, his brain looks like someone who has never even played a contact sports. Bryan says he is sad looking back because he feels he wasted the prime years of his career.

This is really messed up to me. Why did he have to jump through so many hoops? I really hope he does get into wrestling again now instead of fearing. And good goddamn luck to him.

Fuck this

Jesus. So... clearly WWE just used this as an excuse to get him out of the picture so fans didn't keep trying to hijack shows while they pushed Roman Reigns to the top, right?

I doubt that is the case. Itd be hilariously fucked up if it was.

Think how huge it will be if he comes out of retirement though. He will be white hot. Is this possible? If WWE needs a quick savior he is your man.

The company is concerned about PR with respect to concussion related lawsuits. It would not bode well for them if a wrestler with a history of concussions competes and gets paralyzed or dies.

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Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 5003919)

I doubt that is the case. Itd be hilariously fucked up if it was.

We already knew the multiple doctor thing and he was legit emotional during the retirement speech, so I do believe getting info after that would be the only reason why he'd want to wrestle again, especially with Bries blessing. So Meltzer says Bryan will wrestle for WWE again when they don't want to lose him at the end of this contract and Bryan would rather work for WWE if they offer him that with conditions in the contract. If not, he's looking at NJPW and CMLL. Even if he really does have the all clear, I kinda hope he doesn't wrrestle NJPW style.

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5003914)

Jesus. So... clearly WWE just used this as an excuse to get him out of the picture so fans didn't keep trying to hijack shows while they pushed Roman Reigns to the top, right?

While they really didn't want Bryan to outshine Reigns, doubt that would be it since they have other ways of "cooling" him down without having to do something that drastic.

The on-going concussion lawsuit and CM Punk medical lawsuit are more likely the main reasons. Both hurt their standing if they let Bryan wrestle and he gets hurt again or make it seem like they only retired him out of pettiness.

I don't think WWE is creative enough to cool him down subtly enough to prevent another backlash. lol

Yeah, I do think that WWE did it in the best of intentions considering how many concussions he had in a row, but doing it this way is shady as fuck.

I mean... I can see them just not wanting to let a guy who has had a lot of concussions wrestle. But then why not just use that as the reason they don't want him to wrestle. "You've had too many concussions and regardless of whether you're cleared or not, we think putting you back in the ring is a risk". The way they went about getting him to retire seems shady as fuck.

Shady as fuck indeed.

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5003921)

The company is concerned about PR with respect to concussion related lawsuits. It would not bode well for them if a wrestler with a history of concussions competes and gets paralyzed or dies.

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Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5003935)

Yeah, I do think that WWE did it in the best of intentions considering how many concussions he had in a row, but doing it this way is shady as fuck.

With respect to the WWE's track record, I wouldn't weight "the best of intentions" as heavily as trying to avoid another media disaster (The Benoit double-murder suicide).

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5003932)

I don't think WWE is creative enough to cool him down subtly enough to prevent another backlash. lol

Would probably be something in vein to how they derailed Summer of Punk with the Triple H stuff and being blatant with not wanting Cesaro to be as over when the crowds picked him to as their new Bryan.

Mania 31 likely was the blueprint for it. Bryan gets demoted to the IC/US scene and gets a title reign as a way to keep the crowd somewhat happy while they went forward with their plans to try to make Reigns into the next Cena. Had Bryan not gotten hurt shortly afterwards, the cool down from mega star or special status might have had a chance of happening over time.

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5003938)

With respect to the WWE's track record, I wouldn't weight "the best of intentions" as heavily as "trying to avoid another media disaster" like the Benoit double-murder suicide.

... I think trying to prevent a Benoit situation is the best of intentions. Like, angelic intentions.

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5003936)

They had Tommy Dreamer wrestle in late 2015 at the TLC PPV.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/o_SJ5_EiDmk/maxresdefault.jpg

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Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5003940)

... I think trying to prevent a Benoit situation is the best of intentions. Like, angelic intentions.

I do have some reservations when it comes to the WWE pretending to have the talent's best interest in the forefront.

Well, come on. Fuck concussion risks. Gotta get that Tommy Dreamer ticket sale/merch money rolling in!

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Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5003929)

was referring to Fan's post

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Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 5003993)

was referring to Fan's post

Ah, that makes more sense. Yeah, I doubt it's some Roman Reigns conspiracy, especially with the brand split since they could keep them apart. If they didn't see money in Bryan, they wouldn't have brought him back to be an on air perosonality.

Honestly though, the combination of professional Bryan seeing out his contract but not giving a shit what he says has been amazing.

Wow... I really hope he gets out and makes his rounds ASAP.

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5003914)

Jesus. So... clearly WWE just used this as an excuse to get him out of the picture so fans didn't keep trying to hijack shows while they pushed Roman Reigns to the top, right?

Ya Vince hates money. And he was tired of Bryan making so much money for him and he wanted him out. RIght. Yep. You nailed it.

Well WWE certainly isn't one to do something stupid that leaves money on the table.

(See: Johnny Curtis not main eventing all the WrestleManias)

In what world has Johnny fucking Curtis ever been close to main eventing Wrestle Mania's? Are you on cocaine right now?

You don't get words, do you RP?

Didn't you know that he's TPWW's #2 worst poster? Of course he doesn't understand words.

I do not visit the casual forum enough. I was not aware of this. Proceed.

lol well I mean I deemed him as such. not an official ruling but I think it's fairly accurate.

It wouldn't surprise me if the WWE just wanted Bryan out of the way. I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but it isn't much of a stretch to imagine the WWE putting more scrutiny on the tests of a guy like Daniel Bryan than they would a guy like Dolph Ziggler, who has also had numerous concussions, but is still put in every Ladder Match the WWE does.

Hey #1-wwf-fan, can you quote that post about Tommy Dreamer?

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5003947)

Well, come on. Fuck concussion risks. Gotta get that Tommy Dreamer ticket sale/merch money rolling in!

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5004035)

That's very stupid, Noid. If it helps you sleep at night.

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5003942)

They had Tommy Dreamer wrestle in late 2015 at the TLC PPV.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/o_SJ5_EiDmk/maxresdefault.jpg

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5003947)

Well, come on. Fuck concussion risks. Gotta get that Tommy Dreamer ticket sale/merch money rolling in!

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5003957)

I bought in to the "old school" mentality that these wrestlers have when I was an impressionable teenager. Now it just makes me cringe and worry for their well-being.

Bryan also subscribes to the same mentality (maybe to a lesser degree). I remember when he had a "stinger" on live television and got irate backstage because the match was called off. I'd not rule out the possilbity that Bryan might be exaggerating or changing some facts since he has a biased perspective on the issue.

For those don't remember the incident

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The obvious answer is typically the correct one, and it's likely that WWE was just paranoid about another Chris Benoit situation. Yes, Dolph Ziggler has had concussions as well, but we don't know the nature of his concussions or how they compare to Bryan's.

Now... if it were Roman... who knows what they'd do? Bryan didn't figure into their plans for the future, so it likely wasn't worth the risk to have him work. I'm not saying we're dealing with saints here, I mean look at how McMahon handled the Brian Pillman death, that fucking sleezebag lol.