Let the Cena heel turn discussions begin
 

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In order to remain interesting in the world of wrestling you need to evolve. Chris Jericho, Randy Orton and The Undertaker being a few popular examples of evolution.

I understand that the kids love John Cena. He is suppose to be a role model for them. He sells so much merchandise that it is crazy. But other than that, Cena has become very stale.

Don't get me wrong, I admire Cena the person but I dislike Cena's wrestling persona. I also understand that a heel turn doesn't seem like a "good" financial decision. WWE had two decent opportunities in this very month to make it happen. But they decided not to.

Not only is John Cena "boring", his on air persona seems to have lost dignity and self respect. He is absolutely bland and pathetic. His expressions and behavior during and after the main event match at Survivor Series were weird and creepy. I have no clue as to what is going on in his mind.

I must also add that Cena has improved a lot as an in-ring performer. But he gets easily exposed from time to time. It gets on my nerves when random idiots boo him just because it is "cool".

Cena constantly accuses Dwayne Johnson of retiring from his WWE career to pursue a career in the world of show biz and how he let the fans down. On a personal note, I consider John Cena to be a huge hypocrite. The reason why he got popular in the first place was due to his heelish white rapper gimmick and not the persona that he has been depicting on tv since 2005. Those fans had so much emotional investment in you Mr. Cena. And you Mr. Cena! let the fans down.

I understand that you don't want to be a heel because you have a commitment to your younger fan base who look up to you. Where was all that when you stole Del Rio's car at NOC and tried to justify it? Just one of many examples...I smell a stale fish and I ain't buying your shit!

Feel free to post your opinions :wave:

Haters gonna hate.

They ever stopped?

The heel turn discussions that is, haters will always hate.

I actually have come to the stage where I appreciate John Cena for what he is.

He is one of the biggest names in the business, but unique in that never has such a person in that position generated such a polarising reaction. The fact that he acknowledges it and justifies it with the 'Rise above hate' stuff makes me actually appreciate it more, rather than ignore and pretend the boos don't exist like he initially did.

This isnt to say that he is the most entertaining person on the roster, but he is far from the worst.

Kurrgan the Interrogator is, was and always will be the most entertaining, for the record.

And I have come to the stage where I am not expecting him to turn heel anytime soon. Just can't see the business benefits of such a move to appease the minority (i.e smarks)

What I find most noteworthy about the video is that even that Muppet impersonating Piper can't really put Cena down much and ends up praising him.

At the point the majority of the audience is booing him, the notion that it's just smarks or smarks are the minority has to break. At the point CM Punk is the biggest merch mover, the idea that appealing to a smark crowd has no benefits no longer holds. Punk can go die in a fire for all I care, but he clearly breaks the Cena model.

<font color=goldenrod>He may act slightly heelish when it comes to The Rock for now. But after Mania he can and will go back to being the happy go lucky babyface that he always has been.</font>

:rofl: That little kid was like "You can't see me bitch!".

I believe John Cena should snap and become a badass submission machine.

I'd like to propose a straight edge role model for all those kids.

Or just start beating people senseless. He should lose every match from now to Wrestlemania by DQ for excessive violence.

NO!


SUBMISSIONS ONLY

This whole thing is just a build up for Cena to rise above. From here til mania the rock will probably have cenas number and we will more than likely see Cena lose, and "let people down" and we will even see him have a few chances to take the "easy way out" and cheat. But inevitably just when think it is to his breaking point, he beats the rock, and "reboots" his career and we will get the same Cena for another 1/2 decade

He should put Kanes mask on.

I prefer he comes back as Biker Cena.

I don't think he'll go heel.

It'll probably be something like "I got a wake-up call, and remembered what's important. And that is to entertain all of you. The passion had kinda left me for a while, but now it's back and I will give you 100% every night" or something like that.

Was about to post this. Fuck you for stealing my thoughts.


INCEPTION.

From what I have learned on this segment. If anyone slapped the taste out of my mouth, proceed to take my hat off, and hand them back their Hall of Fame ring and kiss my dog tag as I walk away. RISE ABOVE HATE!

I like this turn of events; it makes things interesting. This is really the only time apart from Cena's feud with CM Punk that the hate toward Cena is being acknowledged and used in a storyline.

I think that it's time to turn Cena heel. Yes, it's been said before, and yes, there were probably great times to do it in the past (when he "joined Nexus" would have been perfect), but right now, when he's involved in a feud with the most over "non-WWE" superstar on the roster, the situation is perfect.

At WrestleMania we should see Cena snap. Maybe he wins the match, maybe he loses the match, but no matter what happens, after the bell is rung, he should go a little bit crazy and beat The Rock to a bloody pulp in front of the Miami crowd. The heat that he'll get for decimating The Rock in front of Rock's home town will be massive, and if he does it with enough anger and malice, it could be the moment that turns him for good. Not only that, but it will be immortalized as a "WrestleMania moment" - like the Hulk Hogan turn at BATB 96 was immortalized as a "WCW moment." The penultimate good guy in the WWE, John Cena, finally snaps and turns on The Rock and the WWE universe.

The next night on RAW, Cena tells the WWE universe to "stick it, brother."

Cena is already a heel, and the best heel in the business.

Think about it. They can't turn Cena full heel. If they do, A. Kids won't buy his merchandise, which is bad for business, and B. all the guys who are booing him now will probably start cheering him.

So what do they do? They make him a merchandise seller for the women and kids, yet they also have him utterly pissing off a ton of people. His entire gimmick right now is "Oh, fine, you can boo me, that's cool, it's your right, I'm going to rise above your hate." He's pretty much telling half the crowd "screw you, I'm bigger than this, I don't care about you."

Think about it, a good chunk of the crowd hates him, he doesn't care, he keeps doing what he wants to do, and he thinks he's in the right for it. He's the perfect heel. THe problem is, Cena isn't turning heel the way the "booing" fans want him too. The fact is though, he's getting a ton of heat, and he has this passive aggressive way of playing on it which gets him even more heat... And he's doing it without affecting his merchandise sales.

It's brilliant. All of the people who want Cena to turn heel don't realize he already is a heel, just to them. The problem is, they want the "cool heel," and the lack of that is making Cena into a bigger heel for that group of fans.

That is what I have thought about during the CM Punk v.s. Cena contract signing for Summerslam. Where a few things that he said seemed pretty clear that he could of given a rats ass about the other half of the people who boo'd him.

Why not turn him heel? The creative writing staff has nothing to lose but their already low ratings, considering how they fucked up the last few monday nights. Am I just paranoid or am I seeing a pattern here with week after week misadvertisements that I had seen just before the demise of WCW? May just be paranoid, but... things have been a little disorderly as of late.

Lol they're not going bankrupt Damndirty. Relax.

ANNNDD.

What perfect timing for a new belt change to come as well!

He won't turn into a full heel but something similar to HBK acting like a heel by becoming overtly obsessed at beating the Undertaker at any cost leading up to their second Mania match. Although HBK did something similar during his mini-feud with Hogan and even the Rock switched a bit to being a heel during his match with Hogan at Mania 18.

Cena might act a bit heelish until Mania knowing the crowd is going to heavily boo him but just like HBK, the day or week after he will be back to normal.

Part of that whole gay culture thing?

Sorry, "hip hop."

And go back to being the hardcore champ.

About fucking time.

Maybe it's like a Vince Russo wannabe new writer... btw, who is their creative writing director/s now?

I've always enjoyed Cena's work Never thought he really needed to be heel.

But a large part of me thinks it would be awesome if Piper keeps showing up between now and wrestlemania, to rag on him. Cena loses at wrestlemania and the next night on raw, just loses it and beats the shit out of the rock with a steel chair or something.

I just think a heel cena, with one of the greatest heels of all time in his ear, mentoring him on going from a squeaky clean face, to the most evil bastard in the WWE would be a great story.

:roll:

If he does turn heel it has to be full out. If they make him in the middle then nobody is really going to care and it would be nothing too groundbreaking. I say turn him mega heel by absolutely doing a 180 on his fans. Whoever they match up against him would instantly become a star. Although I don't know if they have anybody right now who is ready for a push like that...

I think it was JBL who said that a heel is a performer who does not give the audience what they want. When the fans want something the heel goes in the opposite direction.

It seems Cena did just this during the Pipers Pit segment on Raw.

I thought they would have used Survivor Series as an opportunity to turn Cena. Having him give the Rock an AA and leaving him to Miz and Truth at the end of the match would have had the 'net buzzing and it would have been a logical turn. You could even take it a step further and have him "injure" the Rock for a few weeks since Dwayne doesn't make consistent appearances anyways. Serious bidness right there.

I'm glad Rock's back, but the whole way their feud has been built seems dumb as hell to me. Superstar Face vs. Superstar Face doesn't really work. They kind of tried it with Trips and Punk and the whole thing ended up coming off retarded.

Bingo, which is why it's so hard for high fliers to be efficient heels.

Except for the military, the kids, and the Make A Wish Foundation.

It's along the lines of the Canada vs. US feud, except the fans tend to be integrated into the same crowds. Cena is really the first to garner this kind of reaction for such a long time.

HAILMARY
 

RISKY BUT HERE IT IS

lol @ Roddy Pipers rage face on Raw

He should FU one of the troops.