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G 10-24-2010 12:24 AM

damn

VSG 10-24-2010 12:24 AM

FUCK!

Razzamajazz 10-24-2010 12:25 AM

that's a nasty cut

Corndad 10-24-2010 12:26 AM

Shit didn't expect over that quick at all. That was Impressive.

Savio 10-24-2010 12:26 AM

word

VSG 10-24-2010 12:26 AM

I am so disappointed after that great start Brock had. What's the return match scenario in UFC like?

Lock Jaw 10-24-2010 12:27 AM

Lesnar's weakness is the Latino People.

VSG 10-24-2010 12:27 AM

LOL

owenbrown 10-24-2010 12:27 AM

holy shit you fucking kidding me?

RoXer 10-24-2010 12:28 AM

Fuckin retards and mexicans winning the ufc and a fuckin black for president.

It is truly the end of times

Skippord 10-24-2010 12:28 AM

I turned on the stream to see Lesnar hemorrhaging blood from his face as Velasquez walked around the octagon like nothing happened

Savio 10-24-2010 12:28 AM

Brock is cursed, loses WWE title to the first Mexican champ and the UFC title to the first Mexican champ.

VSG 10-24-2010 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 3294501)
I turned on the stream to see Lesnar hemorrhaging blood from his face as Velasquez walked around the octagon like nothing happened

It wasn't as simple as that but ya :'( :'( :'(

IC Champion 10-24-2010 12:29 AM

Lesnar looked lost there for a minute.

Savio 10-24-2010 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3294497)
Lesnar's weakness is the Latino People.

ahhh you said it before me.

VSG 10-24-2010 12:30 AM

Just noticed Paul Heyman is not on the premises.

Razzamajazz 10-24-2010 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by VSG (Post 3294509)
Just noticed Paul Heyman is not on the premises.

CONSPIRACY!

Aguakate 10-24-2010 12:31 AM

Huh.

Corndad 10-24-2010 12:32 AM

I see Brock working his way back up for a rematch fairly quick, who else in Heavyweight will step up in the mean time?

VSG 10-24-2010 12:32 AM

This is UFC's weakness right here- the need to fill in over 30 min of PPV time.

Hanso Amore 10-24-2010 12:34 AM

Ithinks Cain goes on to Dos Santos or Carwin, and Brock gets Nog or something like that. Something that allos lesnar a chance to win a fight and get a rematch

VSG 10-24-2010 12:34 AM

Junior Dos Santos is next in line.

Hanso Amore 10-24-2010 12:36 AM

Just seeing Madesn now.

BACKNE HARD

ROIDS

But he is fatter than his TUF days

VSG 10-24-2010 12:37 AM

Twitter traffic has gone berserk.

Savio 10-24-2010 12:41 AM

I wanna see Brock destroy Lashley now.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-24-2010 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 3294516)
Ithinks Cain goes on to Dos Santos or Carwin, and Brock gets Nog or something like that. Something that allos lesnar a chance to win a fight and get a rematch

Didn't Carwin just test positive for steroids? How can he be allowed to jump back into the title contendership that quickly?

Is there some sort of rematch clause for Brock? It seems like there is alot of rematches in MMA/boxing.

Krimzon7 10-24-2010 01:02 AM

FUCK NO THERE IS NO REMATCH CLAUSE FOR GETTING KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT. Dos Santos is next. Then we get a nice little elimination tourney. That starts with Carwin/Nelson. Then we'll see (if God loves us) Mir/Lesnar III. Probably throw Nog in with Kongo or even Shaub(I know, it's WAY too early). This is why we should all love the UFC HW division. BTW, this Shields guy SUCKS

Next Big Thing 10-24-2010 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 3294532)
Didn't Carwin just test positive for steroids? How can he be allowed to jump back into the title contendership that quickly?

Is there some sort of rematch clause for Brock? It seems like there is alot of rematches in MMA/boxing.

No. He was on a list. Sonnen tested positive.

MMA isn't really like pro wrestling where there are automatic rematches. Unless the fight is close, the UFC moves on pretty quickly as evidenced by the commentary/interview after Brock's loss where Rogan pretty much told him to go back to the drawing board and then proceeded to acknowledge a new era ala Machida after he beat Evans. I kind of felt bad for Brock.

Next Big Thing 10-24-2010 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Krimzon7 (Post 3294559)
FUCK NO THERE IS NO REMATCH CLAUSE FOR GETTING KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT. Dos Santos is next. Then we get a nice little elimination tourney. That starts with Carwin/Nelson. Then we'll see (if God loves us) Mir/Lesnar III. Probably throw Nog in with Kongo or even Shaub(I know, it's WAY too early). This is why we should all love the UFC HW division. BTW, this Shields guy SUCKS

I wouldn't say Shields sucks. He fought Henderson at 185 and dropped 15 pounds for this fight. Despite not fighting at his usual weight, he still couldn't be handled on the ground and showed some pretty good grappling skills. Plus hype like his is always due to disappoint at some point. It's like GSP vs. Hardy. One bad performance does not equate to a bad fighter.

Cheik Kongo might get killed if he's Brock's return fight. I too am praying for Mir/Lesnar III.

Bruce Buffer added too many fucking syllables to people's names. I felt like he was worse than usual tonight.

The Mask 10-24-2010 01:09 AM

word shields looked awful. cain was amazing, also in retrospect it may have been silly to have lesnar as the #1 ranked heavyweight in mma. seems he can't take a punch without curling up in a ball, fedor would kill him.

The Mask 10-24-2010 01:11 AM

also i was sort of gutted the fight got ended so early. i would like to see how ugly brocks cut could have got, since i'm a sick bastard.

Krimzon7 10-24-2010 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 3294575)
I wouldn't say Shields sucks. He fought Henderson at 185 and dropped 15 pounds for this fight. Despite not fighting at his usual weight, he still couldn't be handled on the ground and showed some pretty good grappling skills. Plus hype like his is always due to disappoint at some point. It's like GSP vs. Hardy. One bad performance does not equate to a bad fighter.

Cheik Kongo might get killed if he's Brock's return fight. I too am praying for Mir/Lesnar III.

Bruce Buffer added too many fucking syllables to people's names. I felt like he was worse than usual tonight.

You're right, I should say Shelds sucked. I was impressed with his grappling, but not his takedown offense, nor his standup. I guess one out of three will get you a split decision. Diego Sanchez looked good today also.

Oh, Mask...There was a lot of rope given to Brock, maybe too much. I think the fight coulda ended earlier. Leave it to the Mask (that sickhead :p) to wanna see more blood. You could see Lesnars cheekbone!

Next Big Thing 10-24-2010 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Krimzon7 (Post 3294602)
You're right, I should say Shelds sucked. I was impressed with his grappling, but not his takedown offense, nor his standup. I guess one out of three will get you a split decision. Diego Sanchez looked good today also.

Oh, Mask...There was a lot of rope given to Brock, maybe too much. I think the fight coulda ended earlier. Leave it to the Mask (that sickhead :p) to wanna see more blood. You could see Lesnars cheekbone!

Sanchez was a beast.

I'm not sure Shields deserves that automatic title shot. I know that was something he probably had negotiated into his contract, but he did come off a little one dimensional. Imagine if he was in there with a wrestler like Koscheck or a more well rounded fighter like GSP. He might have some problems with the winner of that fight. Maybe he should put the weight back on and chance it with Anderson.

Brendan Schaub looked good too. He definitely has some holes in his game he should fill, but he's a pretty good striker. Give him some time and I think he's a legit contender.

Hanso Amore 10-24-2010 01:33 AM

Oh come on. Everyone has been pushing against Brock in ever fight he has had waiting for him to lose.

he wasnt overrated.

Look at UFC history. He lasted the same length as the typical HW champ. Just as many defenses as anyone else.

Hanso Amore 10-24-2010 01:34 AM

He won some good fights, and I really think he comes back and pushes for the title again.

Krimzon7 10-24-2010 01:35 AM

Yes, Schaub will be good. A fight with Kongo, who I was pairing Schaub with in my earlier scenario, would be good. Then a rematch with Roy Nelson would be fitting. THEN Big Nog, and then the big boys.

Shields would get anally raped by The entire MW division. HE's in the safest place, but he needs to get with the boxing. I would look like a contender boxing with him.

Hanso Amore 10-24-2010 01:36 AM

I think they have t his same fight again, it goes another way. While Cain dominated, thats how these fights go.

Cain looked amazing though. But both guys can go either way from here

Hanso Amore 10-24-2010 01:37 AM

I wasnt here earlier. MAD IMPRESSED with Court stepping up to the plate

Krimzon7 10-24-2010 01:37 AM

Allow me to clarify, Hanso. I DO NOT THINK LESNAR IS OVERRATED. He was a great champ, and he set the record for title defenses. I just think Carwin showed a blueprint, and Cain executed it. But I'll be dammed if I miss one of his fights! I am a fan.

What Would Kevin Do? 10-24-2010 01:47 AM

Lesnar needs to go down the ladder a bit. This is not a shot at Lesnar. The fact is, people like Cain, Carwin, Dos Santos, etc, are beating people and working there way up, and they're gaining experience while they're doing it. Lesnar on the other hand is essentially getting thrown to the wolves. Let the dude have a few fights that aren't huge fights against big names, so he can train, and implement what he's leaning in actual fights.

Let him fight like, Kongo, then Nelson, then Nog. A pretty good progression of talent, and it'll let him gradually improve.


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