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Apparently the meetings are just starting for the new game, so what kind of updates do you think we are going to see this year?
I can’t see them being able to do much more with this engine, but I was impressed with 2011

Thought?

(Oh shit SvR12 thread. Content? Source? Ah man :()

Create-An-Arena was promised for 2012 when they did an interview to promote 2011.

That would be cool but I can't see them doing it.

probably end up with create-a-sign
i'd love a more detailed Universe mode

Better Story mode, for one. I hate the running about backstage crap with SVR11 and I still haven't completed any of them.

Custom Attires for the WWE Stars...not just color variations, either. I mean actual clothing changes. For those of us that actually WANT to play as Kali while wearing a Tutu...

Maybe a bit better with the CAW option. Getting rid of the points system and going back to Layers would be nice.

Not gonna happen but i wish they'd scrap the no inter gender stuff, getting dq'd for bumping into someone during a mixed tag match gets tiresome quickly.

And create-an-arena/GM mode etc. as well i guess.

I don't expect much out of this year outside of them improving the weapons physics and a better Universe mode.

Wouldn't be surprised to see blood go away, either. Or at the very least tone down everything to just on the face and not going everywhere.

There was an interview in the xbox magazine before last years game came out, THQ had to fight to keep the blood in, having to turn it on through the options was the result. First blood matches kinda suck so i wouldnt be too upset losing them if it meant getting a different match type but having blood set to off by default should be enough.

More of a wishlist but surely not out of the realm of possibility:

-The return of tournaments such as KOTR, Beat the Clock challenges, or MITB.
-Improved Universe Mode like the vacating the belts, having the ability to cashing in wherever and whenever you want, and more slots for SD/RAW plus inclusion of nXt.
-New Superstars: Del Rio, Sin Cara, Ryan, Slater, Reks, The Usos, Rosa, Barretta, etc.
-40 Man Royal Rumble!
-nXt Mode where you can use CAWs or anyone that's participated on the show before.

Fuck this series.

How about dropping GameSpy as the online server provider?

Being able to download CAW's without having to buy XBL. :shifty:

Use Kinect for CAW. Kinect is getting updated soon to have better facial recognition. Use that to scan in our faces.

Everyone I've ever known to use CAW in any wrestling game tries to make themselves or a character based on them at some point. Save us the hassle and let us scan our faces in or, at the very least, use Facebreakers photo system.

I used to love CAW in the old WWF games but now it's just so fiddley and time consuming when it comes to shaping the body and face of a CAW and actual attires don't have enough choice. I'd like them to fix that.

I'm still wanting them to let us have our CAWs available at all times. If my brother is playing on his save file and I sign it to have a match against him, would it really be so hard to let me access my CAWs that are saved on the exact same console I've just logged in to?

<font color=goldenrod>I still remember Umaga and The Great Khali making the cut despite debuting the week after WrestleMania. That could bode well for Sin Cara, who appeared on-screen the night after Mania and had been getting hype vids which suggested he'd be a big deal.

Not sure which other SD game debuts there will be. Alberto Del Rio and Daniel Bryan surely will be in. Alex Riley possibly. Heath Slater should see his first action in a SD game to go along with Barrett and Gabriel making the roster out-of-box this year. Otunga might have the edge at getting in since his model's already there, but that would mean they'd need to include the rest of Nexus as well and I could just see that leading towards them getting Spirit Squad'd and left out.

Hope Del Rio has a full entrance complete with Ricardo Rodriguez.</font>

I want to not be bored with it after a month.

CAW transfer from SvR 2011 would be nice.

More than CAW Slots and more CAW Story slots. They should just use the free space on my hard drive for the extra slots that I might need.

I honestly think of passing up on the wrestling game this year. I'm tired of the Smackdown engine. I think my days of video games are behind me anyway as I've lost interest. I barely even played All Stars.

But get a new engine and, Jesus Christ please, MAKE THE DIFFICULTY HARD AS FUCK! I do play against other people, but a game against the CPU that gives a freaking hard hard challenge is beast.

Fallout 3 is a hard game (for me) and it took me about 2 hours to figure out how to do shit. Make it hard as Fallout 3 BUT EVEN HARDER! Make it HARDER WITH A VENGEANCE

SvR will never be that hard because of how the combat engine works (simulating staged combat). For a wrestling game to be competitively viable, like say the Nintendo games (AKI trilogy, DoR1/2), you'd have to sacrifice tropes of realistic presentation. The SvR series will not do this. It celebrates the spectacle over the combat.

What this means for you is the computer can only ever be cheap and annoying, but not legit challenging on a competitive level.

Damnit!

Play firepro.

If Edge isn't on the main roster he'll definitely be in the "Legends" section.

I bought that for PS2 about a year ago and only played it like three or four times. It was pretty much a game to hold me over for the weekend till I got Smackdown 2011. It's a very detailed game, but I don't have any intentions on ever playing it again for some reason.

Probably because I don't have a PS2 anymore. Even if I did, I wouldnt bother

Fire Pro is a great game..but unless you have a Action Max or whatever to download rosters,logos, etc..it is not a game you want to play much. Even after downloading like a trillion wrestlers..I did a ton of matches and then didn't know what to do. Would be nice to see that game come out sometime with better features but that is never going to happen so whatever.

I never bought 2011, but I will purchase 2012.... I never see enough changes in the game to warrant purchasing it every year......

Good call. Plan to purchase the game before any info has even come out for it. That'll encourage developers to work hard to make sure you buy their games :y:

From Facebook.

I haven't heard anything about it. You would think we'd have some info on it by now...

Regarding on who will be on the cover, I wanna say, The Rock (just because), The Miz, Edge as a farewell thanks for him, Alberto Del Rio, and sadly since he's been on like every game cover for a while now, John Cena.

<font color=goldenrod>I expect he'll be on the main roster, much like HBK was last year. This will probably be his last SD game though, I don't see him being a perrenial legend like Rock, Austin, Vince, and (most likely) HBK. Could also see Lawler getting in the game this year. Booker T also has a decent chance since they put Steamboat in last year and hyped him as being a "WCW legend". Think they'll also put Diesel in to take advantage of his Legends deal. Don't see Cole being in as a playable guy, though I could see him being a throw-in for DLC (Kharma will be heavily requested DLC this year too I'm sure).

Last year's roster was massive. By my count there were 72 playable characters out of box (one of which was Bret who I think was actually on the disk even though not everybody got him by default). I gotta think The Hurricane was meant to be playable but they scrapped it after his release well before Mania, leaving him in only for his Road to WM skit. There's also evidence in Road to WM that guys like Carlito and Khali were in but were scrapped, so conceivably the roster could be as high as 74-75 out of box.

I think everyone who was in last year's game that was still around at about WM time this year (including Edge and McCool) will return. Being in the game before always gives you a leg-up at inclusion the next year. Between the active roster, 10 or so legends, and the token spot or two for random characters like the Druid - I think you'll be left with only a few spots to pick between the New Nexus or the Trent Barretas and Tyler Rekses of the world.</font>

If I remember correctly... Is it this year they aren't making a ps2 version?
That'll surely help them

<font color=goldenrod>They need to fix the Rumble entry order and Elimination Chamber entry order. It's the same thing every time. I refuse to believe it's that hard to put a bunch of randomizer codes in that would actually give you a random entry order each time.</font>

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The Nash mode should be like that Spiderman game where you played as 4 different variations of Spiderman.

Diesel, NWO Nash, post NWO Nash and TNA Nash. Then all those timelines join up and its revealed they're all just Nash reminiscing about the past... the night before he has to challenge and beat Takers streak.

God, that would be amazing. Working your way up from Shawn's bodyguard, to having to negotiate with Hogan to start the nWo, a Fingerpoke of Doom minigame, etc.

Interesting.

Could be a good thing (new engine), lame thing (rebranding) or just "lol look new game with the concept of it being a new era but it's really just the same game with a new menu system".

Sports Entertainment: The Game

Or maybe they really are bringing out Kevin Nash 2012. LOL, that seriously sounds like something that would have been released for the SNES.

I want a Kevin Nash game in the Contra engine.

WWE: SVR 2012, featuring limited edition R-Truth edition with pre-order bonus of his new theme and titan tron

<font color=goldenrod>Doubt I'll buy it this year unless there's an overhaul.

That being said, they'll probably make some amazing changes to Universe mode and I'll buy it for that.</font>

Honestly, I'll probably buy it as long as they move forward. Meaning unless they gimp the system more, remove more moves, etc, I'll probably buy it.

Although Ireally hope they fix submissions and add more, add the pinning button option to top rope moves, and fix the movelists if they're going to stick with the chain and groggy grapple set up (because I hate the fact that so many peeps have the same chain grapple moves.)

I'm planning to have GameFly by then so I'll probably just rent and play the shit out of it and then return it.

You don't normally hear anything until at least E3.

I mean come on, the first 5.5 months has to be all the new voice recording, then .5 months on minor new gameplay features, then a good 4 months of promotion.

They might do an overhaul since people bitched about the graphics last year, despite it being the first fun Smackdown vs. Raw game in-ring wise.

I tend to skip Smackdown games every other year. If this year there is no major fucking changes I guess ill have to skip 2 years in a row. it seems to be the only way to enjoy WWE games.

I skipped for a couple of years, and got last year's version for Christmas. Gotta say, it got pretty boring realy quick. Unless they overhaul the game and completely reinvent it rather than making minor upgrades and roster additions while stamping a new year on the front, there's a good chance I will not be making a purchase.

Yeah, some serious new additions need to be made. New gameplay system is a must. Having played every single game..the gameplay is just so mundane and easy at this point. When I get a new game I just set it to legend difficulty right away. Road to Wrestlemania is an awful mode as well in my opinion. A season mode similar to Here Comes the Pain would be gold.

A real achievement (for THQ) would be going back to the drawing board and wiping the slate clean and building the best game in the series yet with this year's entry. Not gonna happen, obviously, but if it doesn't soon this series will eventually die off.

Also another tough one is going one year without blowing your quad. :lol:

Anyone know the sales figures for the SmackDown series? I'm interested to see if sales have dropped or if we're in a a "ain't broke, don't fix it" situation.

Anyone else think its time to retire the "Smackdown vs Raw" title? It's been going year after year since 2004 and in regular conversation it's confusing.

I have conversations with people saying "No Mercy was a great game." To which the other person will say "WWF Attitude was a good effort." Nowadays, I'll say something like "I loved Smackdown vs Raw 2006" to which the other person says "Which one was that?"

Anyone else agree?

You say the title and year and somebody would ask which one it is? Are there wrestling game fans who don't know what SvR refers to?

I agree about the title change but the reason was kinda silly.

Let me ask you this, without doing research on the internet, what were some similarities and differences between 2006 and 2007? Also, how was 2009 on an overall perspective?

Without doing any research:

2006 was the last game to emphasize the rivalry between Smackdown and Raw, the trailers and intro used Orton and Cena as the young figureheads for the war. 2006 Also had a bitchin story mode that elevated the series in that regard.

2007 introduced the interactive moves and had a demo showcasing this. It was the cross-platform iteration, I believe.

2009 was a personal fave of mine, and the last one I put serious time in. It enhanced a number of features of the series including create-a-move. It also had a pretty cool menu system. I see it as the first improvement on the series in a few years.

People can do this, and get really into details, with sports game iterations. I don't really see this as a challenge.

I said I agreed with the name change, what's the boggle?

Okay, apparently you know. There is no boggle.

What I'm saying is that I have to remind people of what was featured in 2006 or 2007 because the year is the only change in the title.....and some people need to be reminded. No Mercy was an awesome game. WWF Attitude was okay. WWF WarZone was decent at the time. Now let me talk about Smackdown vs Raw 2006 and compare that to Smackdown Vs Raw 2007. People have a natural reaction to go "....what was in 2006?"

Maybe it just annoys me.

Cool. No prob.

Cory ledesma i guess has been tweeting anagrams for the last 3 weeks . no idea what the first one was . the latest one translated to Advanced Tech Invades the Engine. heres the current anagram "A Heartbroken Pen Igniting".
Try and figure it out

Kalyx, unlike you, most people don't treat videogames like a religion, and indeed wouldn't be able to list the differences between the SvR games.

In a fit of cosmic irony, you people play games more than I do.

I can only get the words "Pin Engine" and I'm left with "A Heartbrok ting".

He never stated that you play more games, he stated that you treat them like a religion.

You act like being good at a fighting game requires years of hard work and dedication.

They have never fixed the damage system enough in SvR. You perform a finisher on someone and they stay down for a while, which works nicely, but if someone then kicks them on the ground, they immediately get up as if nothing happened.

Anyway, I played all the WWF games up until Shut Your Mouth, then missed HCTP and SVR as I stopped watching wrestling for a few years. I got back into it in 2006 and played SVR 2006-2011, buying each new edition on release day as my yearly ritual.

I hope a new title leads to a a fresh game engine, instead of an updated SVR 2011 under a new name.

First of all, it kinda does. Like anything and everything else. You don't wake up one morning and do a juggle into Ryu's ultra combo. Secondly, most of you guys would still be putting more "hard work and dedication" into it anyway - as I've not been playing videogames in general regularly, while they trucked along. That was my point: They play more games than I do.

I take core mechanics seriously, I admit. I'm a competitive gamer. I like getting good at something and challenging people, testing what I learned. You think that means nothing because it's a videogame? That's how you sound.

May I ask what I do that hints at me treating games like a religion?

Yeah that needs fixed badly, its the little flaws that bug me the most honestly.

<font color=goldenrod>God I hope they are changing the engine.</font>

Being able to list all the differences in the SvR games for one. You aren't even that big of a fan of those games. People who are, can't even rattle off what you did without googleing it.

Keep in mind, I never said all this was a bad thing. Lot of people treat sports like a religion. Who cares? It's your passion. Nothing wrong with that. Was just making the point that porksoda was correctfor for the most part, and that you are an exception to the rules.

Also, keep in mind, when I say "religion" I am being facetious.

I'm a sexy nerd.

From JR's Blog (via PWInsider): "Expect to hear a major announcement Tuesday from WWE/THQ. Arguably the biggest news to date from WWE on the video game front."

If that's true, it has to be an engine change or a philosophy change. Can't just be a name change.

Not really. One of the Madden games had a "radical change" once.

I can hope though, it's only tomorrow until we find out.

Just give me Zack Ryder's new trunks and Tag Champions that walk to the ring at the fucking same time, and Rosa Mendes. Otherwise, when it finally comes out and I pick up a brand new copy of the game in stores, I will no-sell buying it.

Well, we have "create a story", "creater a wrestler", "create an entrance", "create a sign/tattoo/symbol", "create a move", "create a stable" and we've had "create a taunt", "create a PPV" and "create a belt" in the past.

I remember that guy that does all the interviews for SvR on game sites saying they would try and do "Create an arena/ring" this year.

Maybe they'll have the game be about our own brand or federation. We create our wrestlers and their signs, moves etc. Design the ring, arena and titles. Create rivalaries and alliences and try to run our own brand/fed.

I've always wanted them to bring back the ratings system from Smackdown2. Where it showed you how many people watched your show/PPV and at which points.

So it would be cool if that's what it was but I can't really see it. If they ever do that, I'd like them to give us a budget that we have to keep up by selling merchandise and setting ticket prices and stuff.

Maybe make it "Monday Night Wars: The Game". You go head to head with WWE, try signing their talent while trying to stop them signing yours with offers of better pay and more tv time. All the while trying to keep ratings up with interesting matches, stories and rivalries.

They're getting rid of the "Smackdown VS RAW" title and just calling it "WWE '12"

Jim Ross knows jack all about videogames, so yeah it can. Also, wwe people always make every little thing out to be THE GREATEST THING IN THE HISTORY OF EVER.

Over the past couple of years, I honestly think they've surpassed Tony Shiavone in ridiculous overstatements.

Or, you know, TEW.

http://www.greydogsoftware.com/tew2010/

All I want is a good, playable match engine.

Trust me, get TEW if you want all that management BS. It is fantastic and with the community, you can play any era you like virtually. Keep it out of my console game.

'06 was also the only game in the series with a certain superstar in it to feature
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:D

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/ar...8040432258.jpg
Also still remember seeing that image in SvR '06 in Christian's entrance and wondering where the fuck the "C" was. :lol:

It looks like it's the end of the SmackDown vs Raw series.

The new game is named "WWE '12".

http://www.wwe.com/inside/thq/25017702

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See, just a name change and the usual yearly promises.

although if they get rid of that physics system to re-improve the graphics, they can fuck off.

So we get some new animations, improved lighting, an updated submission system, and all the key features we already have in SVR 2011.

I think for me this hinges on how much they change Universe Mode. We shall see...

Does WWE '12 sound shit to anyone else? I was hoping for a cool subtitle like they used to have before SVR.

:shifty:

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...5_869912_n.jpg

DEEEEEL RIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

They should go the reboot route and just call it WWE Smackdown.

Or add tons of subtitles:
WWE Universe featuring NXT: The Game 2012-Version 2.5: This time...it's preposterous.

"...and tonight, "WWE '12" is sponsored in part by:"

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nVn6hrw4Ly...yPebblesHR.jpg

Meh. Same old shit, new coat of paint.