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Anybody Thrilla 06-09-2015 01:02 PM

WWE Tough Enough Discussion Thread
 
The debut is a few weeks away, but the top 40 contestants have been revealed. Based on the pictures from Raw, I'm happy that most of those 40 actually LOOK like they could become viable WWE superstars as opposed to some people from past seasons who seemingly had no business inside a wrestling ring.

On top of that, names like Chris Jericho, Booker T, Daniel Bryan, Lita, and Hulk Hogan, we just may have the most star-studded cast in Tough Enough history. Bill Demott an Al Snow may have been great trainers, but they were hardly ever extremely relevant on WWE TV.

Moreover, I really dig the fact that they'll be training at the Performance Center. I think it'll be pretty cool to see how things operate inside that place on a day-to-day basis. It would also be kinda cool if some people who were training there who AREN'T on the show ever stuck their heads in to talk shit about the contestants.

I've been a fan of the Tough Enough contest since the begin, and I can't wait for this version.

What are your thoughts on...

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/ep_trend...ugh_042315.jpg

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Volare 06-09-2015 01:13 PM

Waiting till the show starts, never watched any of the vids (minus what they showed on RAW). I've always had the feeling that "your votes count" is total BS and they picked who they wanted and BS'd the fans.

Just hoping Jericho does good here.

Anybody Thrilla 06-09-2015 01:16 PM

I wonder if Jericho is going to try and be all intimidating like Austin was on the 2011 season. Plays out weird in my head.

Volare 06-09-2015 01:25 PM

I can see him speaking in a Low manner like he did as heel. If he gets as fired up as he did ranting on the HOF this year, he will be money.

Anybody Thrilla 06-09-2015 01:34 PM

I know Jericho is a vet and can hold his own or whatever, but some of these contestants look like they could crush him. He's no spring chicken anymore.

I love Jericho, btw.

Big Vic 06-09-2015 01:53 PM

Hope Big O wins and gets a massive push just to spite Ryder.

Evil Vito 06-09-2015 02:07 PM

<font color=goldenrod>The Big O making the final cut would be wonderful.</font>

Evil Vito 06-09-2015 02:08 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Would be incredibly awkward if one but not both of the Kingdom Twins makes the cut for the show.</font>

KIRA 06-09-2015 02:59 PM

Gonna see how long it Takes the WWE to let the winners go

I might be wrong but for some reason I remember someone winning and never being used

XL 06-09-2015 03:07 PM

Andy Levine, got bitch-slapped by Vince and was never seen again.

Nicky Fives 06-09-2015 03:20 PM

maybe this time around they'll actually hire the winner and give him more than a cup of coffee of time to train and not hire the useless broad whose favourite match was Melina vs. Alicia Fox....

Nicky Fives 06-09-2015 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4646273)
Gonna see how long it Takes the WWE to let the winners go

I might be wrong but for some reason I remember someone winning and never being used

The Miz lost to Daniel Puder, who had a Royal Rumble appearance and that was it....

Anybody Thrilla 06-09-2015 04:15 PM

John Morrison made a pretty good run out of Tough Enough. Also The Miz, if you even count his season. Maven and Nidia both stuck around for a while. The Cappotelli situation was very unfortunate, but he probably would have had a decent shot. It's not like it CAN'T be done.

Volare 06-09-2015 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4646318)
John Morrison made a pretty good run out of Tough Enough. Also The Miz, if you even count his season. Maven and Nidia both stuck around for a while. The Cappotelli situation was very unfortunate, but he probably would have had a decent shot. It's not like it CAN'T be done.

Cappotelli is a bitch.

Evil Vito 06-09-2015 04:47 PM

<font color=goldenrod>How so?</font> :?:

Droford 06-09-2015 04:53 PM

Since most of the finalists have real wrestling backgrounds, it makes me wonder what they will do with all the submissions from people who never really had a shot

They should do a funniest tough enough submission video show

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-09-2015 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4646357)
Since most of the finalists have real wrestling backgrounds, it makes me wonder what they will do with all the submissions from people who never really had a shot

They should do a funniest tough enough submission video show

They did it just to get a buzz so more people would upload stuff with #ToughEnough.

Volare 06-09-2015 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4646345)
<font color=goldenrod>How so?</font> :?:

My inner Bobcore came out. :D

Lock Jaw 06-09-2015 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4646260)
<font color=goldenrod>Would be incredibly awkward if one but not both of the Kingdom Twins makes the cut for the show.</font>

And then halfway through the show it turns out that they used "Twin Magic", as the brother who made it sacrificed his spot and gave it to the one that got cut.

Or they constantly use "Twin Magic" to cheat at all the competitions. Like if there is a race or something, one starts and the other finishes and is all like "Yeah! I ain't even tired!"

Lock Jaw 06-09-2015 07:09 PM

Anyways, some of the finalists looked like definite roid freaks who Vince probably didn't even watch the videos but just saw the pictures and fainted in excitement.

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-09-2015 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4646460)
Anyways, some of the finalists looked like definite roid freaks who Vince probably didn't even watch the videos but just saw the pictures and fainted in excitement.

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Emperor Smeat 06-09-2015 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Volare (Post 4646229)
Waiting till the show starts, never watched any of the vids (minus what they showed on RAW). I've always had the feeling that "your votes count" is total BS and they picked who they wanted and BS'd the fans.

Just hoping Jericho does good here.

Supposedly that was sort of the case with the last season. WWE really wanted a specific person to win but a combo of him getting voted off early and being injured dropped all interest they had in him.

Had either not happened, very likely the WWE would have done the show in a way to influence the voting like they do with the usual polls.

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-09-2015 08:10 PM

Martin? He was good.

Mr. Nerfect 06-09-2015 08:17 PM

The last season gave us Cameron. So there's that. I'm optimistic this one will be better.

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-09-2015 08:22 PM

Yeah but that was the highlight of the season. Alicia Fox and Melina having the best match of all time. :lol:

Mr. Nerfect 06-09-2015 08:26 PM

I don't like the idea of a bunch of "passionate" guys getting handed the opportunity like they have been. Frankie Kazarian said it really well in a recent interview "You'd do anything to make it in the business? Then why haven't you done it yet?"

Lock Jaw 06-09-2015 08:48 PM

Stone Cold's speeches were the best part of the last season. Can't imagine Jericho having the same amount of "gravitas".

Lock Jaw 06-09-2015 08:49 PM

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Droford 06-09-2015 11:02 PM

F/ Chelsea Green: (AKA Jaida AKA Daniel Bryan's physical therapist he supposedly had an affair with)

That might be awkward lol

Droford 06-09-2015 11:07 PM



Skinner + Lash Leroux

Droford 06-09-2015 11:10 PM

Sara Lee will be getting a name change

Anybody Thrilla 06-10-2015 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4646519)
I don't like the idea of a bunch of "passionate" guys getting handed the opportunity like they have been. Frankie Kazarian said it really well in a recent interview "You'd do anything to make it in the business? Then why haven't you done it yet?"

Would you rather just a bunch of out of shape super fans?

Evil Vito 06-10-2015 10:31 AM

<font color=goldenrod>I think it would have been interesting to sprinkle in a few out of shape people who on the show just for the sake of diversity. Not ridiculously out of shape, mind. In decent enough shape that they could realistically work off the weight/build muscle definition etc. throughout the course of the show.

The idea would be that they were picked for their personalities and it'd be cool to see if they show enough heart/character/whatever that they get voters behind them even if they may not be the physical specimen their counterparts are.</font>

Evil Vito 06-10-2015 10:33 AM

<font color=goldenrod>But I'm fine with them all actually looking like wrestlers, anyway. There's definitely no way they watched like 85% of the videos sent in. I believe it even said on the sign-up page that there is no guarantee your application will even be viewed.

They likely just scanned for people who look fit first and THEN watched the videos, weeding out those who showed the charisma of a peanut.</font>

Emperor Smeat 06-11-2015 12:40 AM

Observer on the theme the WWE was using when picking out the finalists and why its better to have a strong showing or get eliminated near the end than actually winning the competition based on past history.

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Instead, the competition is loaded with tall bodybuilders and bikini and fitness models, with a few football players and two MMA fighters, neither of whom have ever had a professional fight. We were told that WWE is right now looking for pretty women MMA fighters, which makes sense with the TapOut brand ownership and the popularity with sponsors right now of Ronda Rousey, Miesha Tate and Paige VanZant.

I was told by someone affiliated with the project that they were looking for television characters picked for a reality show more than good wrestlers, but at the end of the day, two people are getting one year deals at $250,000. A lot of wrestlers were very unhappy with the lack of wrestlers being picked because tons of indie guys, including some with fairly good names and genuine ability, sent in applications.
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Right there guarantees a problem because the winners will not only have a spotlight on them, but will have a hard time not being heavily resented by their co-workers. It may be a lot worse for the female winner, because she'll be making multiples of what all the women in NXT earn. The top NXT women have worked hard to up their games to the level they have. The male winner will also be making more than the rank-and-file guys, but also, unless the touring brand takes off and salaries increase greatly, he'd be making far more than even the guys like Finn Balor and Hideo Itami who were legitimate major league international superstars for years with a proven track record. Essentially, unless the male winner is a Lesnar monster that nobody would dare screw with or that they are greatly fear and respect, placing in the top five and getting a standard developmental contract may be better long-term than winning due to less resentment and less pressure from above to progress quickly.

Emperor Smeat 06-12-2015 09:03 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING NEWS: <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEToughEnough">@WWEToughEnough</a> cast released! <a href="http://t.co/zYVWGImDM4">pic.twitter.com/zYVWGImDM4</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/609504834174193664">June 12, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Some details about the final 13 competitors from the WWE: https://www.wwetoughenough.com/news/...lists-revealed

Droford 06-12-2015 10:17 PM

The whole thing about the fact the two winners will be making more than just about everyone in nxt is dumb argument because it's only a 1 year deal and unless whoever wins is ridiculously over they won't make anything close to that if they stay around. The best part is, even if they do manage to get over the WWE could fuck em over anyway by not putting em on tv or burying them.

Rooting for ZZ I guess out of the guys. Didn't realize he was only 18.

Don't really have a female preference but Sara Lee gets me cause of the name.

Droford 06-12-2015 10:21 PM

ZZ Loupe is a pretty awesome name too

Tom Guycott 06-14-2015 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4646260)
<font color=goldenrod>Would be incredibly awkward if one but not both of the Kingdom Twins makes the cut for the show.</font>

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4646459)
And then halfway through the show it turns out that they used "Twin Magic", as the brother who made it sacrificed his spot and gave it to the one that got cut.

Or they constantly use "Twin Magic" to cheat at all the competitions. Like if there is a race or something, one starts and the other finishes and is all like "Yeah! I ain't even tired!"

I think it'd be better if they went the other way, and the loser resented the one who made the cut. He fucks with him somehow during the show to get him eliminated (feeds him pot brownies and makes him fail a piss test, or something). Neither one "wins", but they already have an angle to be spun off for a "second chance" shot in NXT.

But, I suppose that's moot now.

Lock Jaw 06-17-2015 09:04 PM

Watching the casting special thing...

"laughing out loud" at graphic saying "After a long night of soul searching, The Kingdom Twins decide to withdraw from the competition" immediately cutting to interview with them talking about how "at the end of the day they didn't quit"....... Isn't that exactly what they did?


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