QUESTION - Is Ryback going over Lesnar at Wrestlemania one of the best things that the WWE could do?
 

QUESTION - Is Ryback going over Lesnar at Wrestlemania one of the best things that the WWE could do?

A few facts to consider:

-Ryback is being groomed as the next big star in the WWE.
-Ryback won't be in the WWE or World title picture at this year's Wrestlemania
-A clean win over Lesnar for ANYONE = instant credibility.

I'm thinking that if the WWE are smart, they'll have Ryback go cleanly over Lesnar at Mania.

Sometime over the next few months, Lesnar interferes in a Punk/Ryback match as a result of Paul Heyman's wish. After this incident, Ryback's new mantra becomes, "FEED ME LESNAR."

Lesnar declines interest but at the Royal Rumble, he once again interferes with Ryback (either costing him a match or helping him get eliminated from the Royal Rumble).

Finally - a match is set up between the two for Wrestlemania.

Before Mania however, Lesnar has a few "warm up" squash matches (this helps convince the marks that Lesnar is still an absolute badass and that anyone going over him would be a massive deal).

Anyway - that's what I'd do.

Although Lesnar/HHH II has been rumored, I don't see any benefit in having Triple H get his return victory.

P.s.___________speaking of Triple H, I *do* think it would be cool to see the following:

Rhode Scholars + 3MB vs. Degeneration X (HHH, HBK, X-PAC, Billy, Road Dogg).

Yes.

And that's why.

That thread has nothing to do with mine.

I am proposing Lesnar/Ryback not Goldberg/Ryback.

This thread is also meant to talk about as to whether Ryback going over Lesnar would be a wise WWE decision? (As opposed to whether a Ryback vs. Lesnar or Goldberg match should/would take place).

You know, I actually read that as Ryback Goldberg, not gonna lie. Need to wake up some more. As you were.

Also a good point. There's no need to Triple H to get his win back. The feud served it's purpose in making Lesnar look unstoppable again and making people want to see him get what's coming to him for being a huge douchebag even more. Triple H has bigger things on his plate now than making himself come out looking good.

Though if they don't do something like Punk vs Triple H at Mania like I would like to see them do assuming Rock and Cena fight for the title, then Triple H reffing the match between Ryback and Lesnar could be cool.

No, not at this time, maybe next year but I don't see him lasting too long.

I'm thinking the same thing.

Hopefully, the WWE doesn't waste a Lesnar-job to Undertaker or Triple H (which unfortunately, is something that I suspect they might do).

Lesnar should also get a few squash victories before Mania. Destroying guys like Tensai, Brodus "Funkasaurus" Clay, etc., would be great. If possible - even have him completely squash Great Kali.

The problem in waiting too long, is that you could lose that momentum. Ryback is on fire right NOW. Why drain that momentum?

Example - The Rock vs. Cena. Remember how much steam these guys had before Wrestlemania 27? Unfortunately, the WWE did not capitalize on the massive momentum and as result, their culminating feud at Wrestlemania 28 lost some significant momentum.

Cena/Batista is another example. After both guys reached their peaks at Wrestlemania in 2005, the WWE should have had them feuding within 6-12 months.

Morale of the story - when something is "hot", you go with it. Period.

Ryback going over Lesnar at Wrestlemania would be really strong. I don't think they should do it at Wrestlemania though. There are PPVs to sell right after Mania that could have rematches.

That match could go twice, I suppose.

I seriously doubt anyone's gonna give a shit about Ryback come WrestleMania time.

WWE already addressed this on one of their youtube vidoes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_xjBAd5G84

Agreed. I feel a few of us may be putting a little too much stock in this Ryback experiment. I really don't even think he's that over.

So many here were getting half chubbs over Ryback for a while. I think they were expecting more than an 8 bit move set. Now that he's been over exposed the RYBACK all caps shit has died down.

But to answer the question, yeah....a Gertner wet dream of these two wrasslin would probably be for the best especially if Lesnar is just part time (or gone after Mainia). But something tells me its trips over Brock for now.

Would love to see both matches at Wrestlemania.

Assuming that Ryback DOES stay over and also becomes a hit with the child demographic,I'm wondering if a heel Cena vs. Ryback feud in the distant future could draw interest?

HBK probably wouldn't come back for that match, though. A Rhodes Scholars/PTP vs. HHH, X-PAC, and NAO could work.

The crowd seems to be getting more and more naturally backing him and the fact that they chant his catchphrase constantly can only be a good thing.

I dunno. I haven't felt any "electricity" during a Ryback match yet.

I think if Ryback embraced the Ultimate Warrior he could become a legend.

THe other week he seemed to channel the warrior spitting out some random line about revenge that was uber cryptic.

Just have him start ranting and raving about the Power of Ryback and those who have came before him.

Could really work.

This is exactly what I was thinking:

In terms of appealing to the child demographic long term, I see a lot of similarity between Ryback and Ultimate Warrior.

Just as Dolph Ziggler is basically what Billy Gunn was supposed to be in 1999, I think Ryback could just as easily be what Goldberg and Warrior should have been long term.

If the WWE can get Ryback to appeal to kids, then you can finally make the much anticipated John Cena heel turn.

Eventually - Ryback can go over Cena (not at this year's mania but perhaps the one after) in a similar manner to how Goldberg went over Hogan.

lol I really don't think it was that cryptic. I remember people in the Raw thread saying how it was nonsensical.

"Revenge is a confession of pain. I'm not hurt. I'm hungry. And the next time I feed, it will be on CM Punk. Feed... me... Punk."

It made sense. Basically he's not out for revenge because revenge would be s sign that he was butthurt about getting screwed out of the title and he doesn't get butthurt. He just wants to destroy Punk because that's what he does.

It was quick but I thought it was at the very least an original thought and not the same pain-by-numbers cliche we're used to hearing from most WWE promos nowadays.

For the record, I can kinda see some Ultimate Warrior similarities. More so than Goldberg. I just don't think that promo was very cryptic and certainly not Warrior "cryptic".

think it is both nonsensical and cryptic. He needs more of it.

Yeah, that promo made perfect sense. They need to just keep him short and dangerous.

The best thing the WWE could do with Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania is put him against Shawn Michaels. Bar none. You want money, this is how you make it. At Elimination Chamber, you run Lesnar vs. Triple H II (remember when big matches used to happen at that February PPV?), with Lesnar taking his time destroying Triple H. Then you have Shawn Michaels appear out of nowhere and give Lesnar the Sweet Chin Music. Pedigree and Triple H gets his win back.

Heyman and Lesnar want a match with "Mr. WrestleMania" at the biggest show of them all, and HBK is all "I'm retired." Lesnar and Heyman try to provoke Michaels as much as they can, and eventually HBK gets permission from The Undertaker to come back and kick Lesnar in the teeth. Heyman is all worried that HBK is actually coming out of retirement, while Lesnar is all grins about it.

Throw that onto a card with Punk vs. Cena vs. Rock, Sting vs. The Undertaker, Ziggler defending the World Title against someone and Big Show vs. Ryback (Ryback Shell-Shocking Big Show would be huge), and then you're talking WrestleMania.

Is this what is referred to as a "Noid Post"? Just checkin.

To stay on topic: Couldn't be a bad idea. Doesn't Lesnar supposedly have contractual talks before Mania? That could change the landscape.

Interesting idea, but Lesnar jobbing to a retired has-been would....

1) be a wasted opportunity since a Lesnar job should be used to put over in-their-prime talent.

2) would make Lesnar look incredibly lame if he lost (and hence, may reduce the impact of a Lensar-meaningful-job in the future).

the feud would be greet, but I'm not sure if HBK would come out of retirement just to JOB to Lesnar (while also taking away the significance of Undertaker retiring him).

I don't think Ryback could Shellshock The Big Show. Remember the Tensai incident?

I find the shellshock underwhelming.

If he COULD sshock Show, he would break his own damn neck when he dropped him.

Seriously. It's essentially a Samoan drop.

And the Meathook is just a frickin' clothesline. Not even one from hell.

Indeed. He needs to take some notes from JBL.

Best.... Lariat..... EVAAAAA!

Ryback beating Lesnar would be huge and something that could benefit the WWE at least for the short term. Him being able to hit Lesnar with the Shell Shock would be the most impressive thing he's done so far while a physical match between the two would help out both guys image of being tough wrestlers.

Only issue is Lesnar needs to be protected until Mania which means nobody gets their revenge on him and he gets to run wild for a bit terrorizing RAW until he finally gets confronted with Ryback. If they have Lesnar enter or distract Ryback during the Rumble leading to Ryback's elimination, that should be enough to start a Mania feud.

I think Ryback's triple powerbomb is more impressive than anything else he does. I think they should make that his finisher. Or turn the Shellshock into a running neckbreaker/powerslam looking thing.