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Destor 02-02-2009 06:17 PM

Better Wrestler #57
 
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3 days

<SELECT><OPTION selected>Better Wrestler History<OPTION>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</OPTION><OPTION>#3.RVD vs Mr. Perfect (15-23)</OPTION><OPTION>#4.Mr. Perfect vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</OPTION><OPTION>#5.Mr. Perfect vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</OPTION><OPTION>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</OPTION><OPTION>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</OPTION><OPTION>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</OPTION><OPTION>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</OPTION><OPTION>#10.Eddie Geurrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</OPTION><OPTION>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</OPTION><OPTION>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</OPTION><OPTION>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</OPTION><OPTION>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</OPTION><OPTION>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</OPTION><OPTION>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)<OPTION>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)<OPTION>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</OPTION><OPTION>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</OPTION><OPTION>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</OPTION><OPTION>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</OPTION><OPTION>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</OPTION><OPTION>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</OPTION><OPTION>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</OPTION><OPTION>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</OPTION><OPTION>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</OPTION>><OPTION>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)<OPTION>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</OPTION><OPTION>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</OPTION><OPTION>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</OPTION><OPTION>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</OPTION><OPTION>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</OPTION><OPTION>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</OPTION><OPTION>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</OPTION><OPTION>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</OPTION><OPTION>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</OPTION><OPTION>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)<OPTION>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</OPTION><OPTION>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</OPTION><OPTION>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</OPTION><OPTION>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</OPTION><OPTION>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</OPTION><OPTION>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</OPTION><OPTION>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</OPTION><OPTION>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</OPTION><OPTION>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</OPTION><OPTION>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</OPTION><OPTION>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</OPTION><OPTION>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</OPTION><OPTION>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</OPTION></SELECT>



<SELECT><OPTION selected>Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</OPTION><OPTION>Taz</OPTION><OPTION>Kurt Angle</OPTION></SELECT>

thedamndest 02-02-2009 06:20 PM

R-Truth FTW!

CSL 02-02-2009 06:22 PM

Ouuuch. Get back to ya

Destor 02-02-2009 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSLi Manning (Post 2421105)
Ouuuch. Get back to ya

I liek seeing this reaction.

Destor 02-02-2009 06:27 PM

also, I voted punk cause I'm a huge Punk mark.

Jeritron 02-02-2009 06:37 PM

I mark for Punk more over the past few years, but I mark for Booker going way back. Harlem Heat, his US title days, and his early days in WWE. Even in WCW 2000 he was great, and the bright spot.

Still undecided.

BigDaddyCool 02-02-2009 06:37 PM

Booker T has simply done more than Punk.

Krimzon7 02-02-2009 06:40 PM

Booker T gets my vote. He Is still gold. He could be a top performer in the E if he chose to be right now. Punker is bland in the 'E' ,even for the 'E'.

Jeritron 02-02-2009 06:42 PM

You act like he's choosing not to be a top performer in the E. If he could, I'm sure he would. He can but he just doesn't want to? I don't buy that. He could, concievably, but they just weren't letting him. That would be a bit more accurate. Or he could, but it just didn't fall together right. Or how about, he just couldn't but he's still great anyways. It just wasn't happening for him, and he didn't like it. Now he's in TNA.

Still love Booker though

Destor 02-02-2009 06:43 PM

He was a top guy when he QUIT the WWE Jerry.

Jeritron 02-02-2009 06:45 PM

A top guy I suppose. I thought he was getting at the top. There were at least 7 or so guys that outranked him in terms of top spot.

And I think he was also gettin de-pushed in his last few months. Wasn't that one of the reasons he quit?

The Mackem 02-02-2009 06:46 PM

CM Punk doesn't come close to Booker for me. Not yet anyway.

Destor 02-02-2009 06:46 PM

Being in the top 10 is def being "at the top."

Jeritron 02-02-2009 06:47 PM

Well then maybe I have my facts wrong. I just thought he was unhappy with things, and that he was pretty much dropping on the card.

Destor 02-02-2009 06:48 PM

He wanted to keep taking pain killers and if he failed one more piss test they were gonna can him so he just quit.

Jeritron 02-02-2009 06:48 PM

lol

Jeritron 02-02-2009 06:48 PM

And fuckin TNA hires him and looks the other way

Destor 02-02-2009 06:49 PM

His official reason is he was pissed they chose FCW over his promotion to be the developemental teritory.

Destor 02-02-2009 06:50 PM

but that's a smoke screen

Jeritron 02-02-2009 06:50 PM

Did he play the Lashley card?

Destor 02-02-2009 06:51 PM

?

Jeritron 02-02-2009 06:51 PM

Honestly, I don't feel like checking this. Are you sure he was at the top? I know he was in like 2006, but after he dropped the title wasn't he pretty much midcard?

Krimzon7 02-02-2009 06:51 PM

Damn, beat me to it Destor, Good info.

Jeritron 02-02-2009 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2421152)
?

Racism.

Destor 02-02-2009 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krimzon7 (Post 2421155)
I thought he quit for more political resasons. The 60 day suspension, the fact that they went with FCW instead of his promotion, the fact they wanted to scrap Sharmell, etc. were all reasons that Booker left.

I coverd all this save Sharmell. Mostly cause I've never heard that before.

Destor 02-02-2009 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2421154)
Honestly, I don't feel like checking this. Are you sure he was at the top? I know he was in like 2006, but after he dropped the title wasn't he pretty much midcard?

Nah, semi-main/upper mid.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2421156)
Racism.

Probably.

Krimzon7 02-02-2009 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2421158)
I coverd all this save Sharmell. Mostly cause I've never heard that before.

indeed you did. good point.

Jeritron 02-02-2009 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2421162)
Nah, semi-main/upper mid.

Probably.

Alright then. For some reason I thought he was getting depushed but I was wrong. So I take it back. Booker could be in a top spot if he chose to be. I was just evaluating top as in Cena/Batista/HHH/HBM/Edge. He was def up there though, so he was top then.

Jeritron 02-02-2009 06:57 PM

I wonder if he bitched about the King gimmick too

Destor 02-02-2009 06:58 PM

seeing as he basically is doing the same gimick in TNA I'd say no. Plus he said several times he was really geting into the gimmick...

Destor 02-02-2009 06:58 PM

I'm being a huge smart ass in here. I love you Jerry. :heart:

Jeritron 02-02-2009 07:01 PM

I have no clue what's going on in Booker T's head. Last I heard he was being a major pain in the ass in TNA too.
A talented performer who's ego and personality is their worst enemy. That'd be a first.

I'm sure he'll be fine in TNA, since they need him more than he needs them. I just think it's kind of a dick move for him to know that, and exploit it.

Destor 02-02-2009 07:02 PM

I try to ignore the dirt sheets when it comes to "so and so is being a meany." But yeah, it wouldn't surprise me.

Lock Jaw 02-02-2009 07:03 PM

Booker T gets my vote. CM Punk just hasn't shown me enough to warrant being put ahead of Booker.

Jeritron 02-02-2009 07:04 PM

It's probably his wife pulling all the strings

Jeritron 02-02-2009 07:04 PM

6-1 Booker...

Destor 02-02-2009 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2421179)
It's probably his wife pulling all the strings

There's only one thinmg she should be pulling...CAN YOU DIG IT?

Destor 02-02-2009 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2421180)
6-1 Booker...

lookin good for Mr.T

thedamndest 02-02-2009 07:07 PM

Things haven't looked this good for Mr. T since Wrestlemania 2.

Destor 02-02-2009 07:08 PM

lol

mike adamle 02-02-2009 07:36 PM

the poll is better wrestler, not bigger push or more accomplished, and for me seeing punk in roh and seeing booker in wcw punk easily gets my vote

Triple Naitch 02-02-2009 07:39 PM

No "We comin for you, nigga" video posted yet?

Destor 02-02-2009 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 2421242)
the poll is better wrestler, not bigger push or more accomplished, and for me seeing punk in roh and seeing booker in wcw punk easily gets my vote

While I personally agree with you, the poll is "better wreslter." This can be defined by much more than in ring work. Personally being a better wrestler means being better in the most facets of the job. Which incorparates in-ring work, mic work, pressence, accomplishments, etc. Its the total package.

My opinion.

Destor 02-02-2009 07:42 PM

Tenure is a HUGE one for me.

Juan 02-02-2009 08:28 PM

Although Booker is the more accomplished of the too, which is probably because he's been wrestling for like 20 years, I still say Punk has a better complete package as a far as what I define a wrestler to be.

Heros Welcome 02-02-2009 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2421354)
Although Booker is the more accomplished of the too, which is probably because he's been wrestling for like 20 years, I still say Punk has a better complete package as a far as what I define a wrestler to be.

Short and to the point. Perfect!

Ruien 02-02-2009 09:26 PM

Ehhh, I have to go with Booker T. He is just so damn entertaining, no matter what gimmick he is doing. One of the few people I always loved to watch, young or old.

El Fangel 02-02-2009 10:17 PM

This makes me dislike Punk even more.

Destor 02-02-2009 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 2421620)
This makes me dislike Punk even more.

Why would him loseing to Booker make you hate him? Are you a racist?

El Fangel 02-02-2009 10:56 PM

I thought Punk was winning...

Anywho, I dislike Punk.

Destor 02-02-2009 10:56 PM

I nope, he's been trasiling since the third vote.

Juan 02-02-2009 10:57 PM

Are you drunk Destor??

Destor 02-02-2009 10:58 PM

?

Destor 02-02-2009 10:59 PM

Shucks mi bawlz

Juan 02-02-2009 11:00 PM

;)

Destor 02-02-2009 11:06 PM

wan

Destor 02-02-2009 11:06 PM

eye hayght yoo

Juan 02-02-2009 11:08 PM

obi-wan*

The Optimist 02-03-2009 12:06 AM

Voted Booker T.

El Fangel 02-03-2009 01:18 AM

Your number Juan.

Destor 02-03-2009 01:24 PM

Punk takes the lead 13-12. Tight race.

BigDaddyCool 02-03-2009 01:34 PM

While this isn't a knock against Booker, I don't think he is good enough to be the top guy of a promotion he deserves to be in, he could be like top guy in RoH, but right now RoH is beneth him. But in a promotion that does deserve him, there is no doubt he is semi-mainevent or higher.

Punk on the other hand is only uppermid card at best right now. Punk may one day be a top dog, but he isn't right now. They can both put on an entertaining match, but Booker is a far more complete packaged. Plus Booker has taken some really shitty gimmicks and made them gold. Punk has only had the straight edge gimmick which appearently was awesome in the indies and is now only passable as a face in WWE.

Also there is the fact that Booker's legacy is already cemented. He will be remembered as he has won more titles than everyone but Lawler, and one of the few legitamate black maineventers.

Punk, for the time being is a fluke World Heavyweight Champion that "out popped" DX. He is some sort of indy legend, but then again so is Jerry Lynn, and no one cares about him now.

So besides flavor of the month, I have no idea how Punk is beating Booker T.

Destor 02-03-2009 01:42 PM

Jerry Lynn is still amazing.

BigDaddyCool 02-03-2009 01:43 PM

Jerry Lynn is ok for a vanilla midget.

Destor 02-03-2009 01:45 PM

5'10 isn't that short. There have been plenty of world champions at that heigth.

BigDaddyCool 02-03-2009 01:47 PM

Who and so what? While techincally he is amazing*, but seriously that is what every guy in the indies is known for.

*By that I mean he can do every move under the sun well.

Jeritron 02-03-2009 01:48 PM

BDC believes in the power 25, and not real talent

BigDaddyCool 02-03-2009 01:50 PM

BDC believes in the TPWW Power 25.

Anyone that says CM Punk is better than Booker T is a racist, there I said it.

Destor 02-03-2009 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2422492)
Who and so what? While techincally he is amazing*, but seriously that is what every guy in the indies is known for.

*By that I mean he can do every move under the sun well.

Jericho? Bret Bret Hart? HBM is really only 5'11...

And some people watch wrestling to see good matches BDC. Not interesting charecters. They have movies/TV for that.

Lord knows I didn't get into wrestling cause I wanted to an "entertaining charecter."

BigDaddyCool 02-03-2009 01:53 PM

Jericho, Bret and HBK are all taller than 5'10". You should have said Eddie Guerrero. And all 4 of them can do everything Lynn can do, plus they aren't boring as hell.

You could have also said Rey, but he was never a champion.

Jeritron 02-03-2009 01:58 PM

I don't think you know what you're talking about at all.

Jeritron 02-03-2009 01:58 PM

The first two sentences of that post are false, or misleading. And the second is a stale joke.

Destor 02-03-2009 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2422506)
Jericho, Bret and HBK are all taller than 5'10". You should have said Eddie Guerrero. And all 4 of them can do everything Lynn can do, plus they aren't boring as hell.

You could have also said Rey, but he was never a champion.

lol. what? WITH BOOTS ON Jericho and Bret are only 5'10. lol

BigDaddyCool 02-03-2009 02:02 PM

So are you saying Shawn Micheals is boring as hell?

Destor 02-03-2009 02:04 PM

Clearly not.

BigDaddyCool 02-03-2009 02:05 PM

Anyhow, the point isn't how tall they are, the point is they can put on a 5 star match every bit as well as Lynn, but they can do it with some zazz.

Jeritron 02-03-2009 02:12 PM

They can put out an end product like Lynn, but they can't do everything he can do. Just like he can't do everything they can do.

Jeritron 02-03-2009 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2422522)
So are you saying Shawn Micheals is boring as hell?

lol

BigDaddyCool 02-03-2009 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2422538)
They can put out an end product like Lynn, but they can't do everything he can do. Just like he can't do everything they can do.

I agree they can't suck as bad ass Lynn.

Juan 02-03-2009 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2422547)
I agree they can't suck as bad ass Lynn.

C'mon! Now you're just talking out of your ass.

BigDaddyCool 02-03-2009 02:19 PM

Oh, so you are saying the poor dead Eddie Guererro suck as bad as Lynn?

thedamndest 02-03-2009 02:22 PM

When Jerry Lynn was born he sunset flipped out of the womb and did a cradle piledriver to the delivering doctor.

Juan 02-03-2009 02:23 PM

Jerry Lynn doesn't suck, so your whole argument is moot.

Jeritron 02-03-2009 02:25 PM

I highly doubt you've even seen him wrestle a match.

Destor 02-03-2009 02:46 PM

BDC I don't know where you get this stuff. Also, I thought you weren't talking to me?

Jeritron 02-03-2009 02:51 PM

Trouble in paradise for the Kliq. Maybe even thunder in paradise

BigDaddyCool 02-03-2009 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2422617)
BDC I don't know where you get this stuff. Also, I thought you weren't talking to me?

I wasn't talking to you because you disappeared, now that you are back, I can talk you again, boy you are dumb.

Destor 02-03-2009 03:19 PM

Tied up. hot match

Jeritron 02-03-2009 03:42 PM

I still haven't voted

Destor 02-03-2009 03:52 PM

Seriously hot match though.

Verbose Minch 02-03-2009 05:23 PM

Hit one up for old Booker.

RatedGSuperstar 02-03-2009 07:46 PM

I tried putting together a solid post as to why I voted for Booker T, but fuck it. I like Punk, but I'm a Booker mark.

Krimzon7 02-03-2009 10:04 PM

:lol:
You're a Booker Mark?!?!?!?!?


I'm stopping a page 148, sucka!
Chapter 10 I'm coming for you NIGGA!

Triple Naitch 02-04-2009 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2422625)
Trouble in paradise for the Kliq. Maybe even thunder in paradise

http://img.verycd.com/posts/0609/pos...1157999603.jpg

RatedGSuperstar 02-04-2009 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krimzon7 (Post 2423305)
:lol:
You're a Booker Mark?!?!?!?!?


I'm stopping a page 148, sucka!
Chapter 10 I'm coming for you NIGGA!

He's just usually gold on the mic. It doesn't matter if he's being serious or goofing around, he's good. I haven't seen that kind of versatility out of Punk yet (although I'll admit I never followed him in the indies, so I don't know for sure).

I'm pretty sure everyone has someone they'd mark out for and feel a little guilty about. :lol:

Anybody Thrilla 02-04-2009 11:41 AM

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...JerryFlynn.jpg >
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/..._jerry_ecw.jpg

Mercury Bullet 02-04-2009 01:27 PM

Booker T. I like Punk but at this point in their careers The Book has just done so much more it wasn't really a touch decision.

Innovator 02-04-2009 01:39 PM

Punk

Booker's best time in WCW was just him ripping off the Rock, plus PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNK

ron the dial 02-04-2009 01:40 PM

yeah punk

The Franchise 02-04-2009 02:44 PM

CM Punk


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