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Schlomey 05-03-2010 03:38 PM
When A Cover Song Is Better Than The Original.....
 
1. Do you think the original artist takes offense?

2. What are your favorite cover songs that you would say are better than the original.

HERE IS ONE EXAMPLE

HALLELUJAH BY JEFF BUCKLEY IS WAY BETTER THAN LEONARD COHEN.

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.44 Magdalene 05-03-2010 03:59 PM
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In the first case, I think it's to patently show how ridiculous the original song was. So yeah, I would probably be offended if I were Fergie and Friends. Then again, I think I'd be offended if I wrote that song in the first place, simply by default.

In the second case:

Quote:
Reznor said that when Rubin first asked if Cash could cover his song, he was "flattered" but worried that "the idea sounded a bit gimmicky." He became a fan of Cash's version, however, once he saw the music video.

“I pop the video in, and wow… Tears welling, silence, goose-bumps… Wow. [I felt like] I just lost my girlfriend, because that song isn't mine anymore… It really made me think about how powerful music is as a medium and art form. I wrote some words and music in my bedroom as a way of staying sane, about a bleak and desperate place I was in, totally isolated and alone. [Somehow] that winds up reinterpreted by a music legend from a radically different era/genre and still retains sincerity and meaning — different, but every bit as pure."

Blitz 05-03-2010 05:23 PM
Thought I could get in before Hurt, to no avail. Cash's version is inferior to the original.

BigDaddyCool 05-03-2010 05:35 PM
Blitz is canadian, therefore knows nothing about music.

El Vaquero de Infierno 05-03-2010 05:38 PM
Nickel Creek version of Britney Spears' Toxic

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DaveWadding 05-03-2010 05:52 PM
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KIRA 05-03-2010 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schlomey (Post 3052711)
1. Do you think the original artist takes offense?

2. What are your favorite cover songs that you would say are better than the original.

HERE IS ONE EXAMPLE

HALLELUJAH BY JEFF BUCKLEY IS WAY BETTER THAN LEONARD COHEN.

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John Cale blows both of these outta the water

meet your master
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mitchables 05-03-2010 06:53 PM
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so much better than the original. fuck, i could get my sass on to this in a french bar somewhere.

FakeLaser 05-04-2010 10:32 PM
Jimi Hendrix - All Along The Watchtower OF COURSE

Jeritron 05-04-2010 10:42 PM
Hallelujiah by Leonard Cohen is one of the most covered songs going, so I highly doubt he takes offense to people thinking one of them is better than his. It's bound to happen, but it's all subjective anyways.
I personally think Leonard Cohen's is the shit, but I'm also a sucker for the real deal a lot of the time. Sometimes the fact that someone created a song is part of what I "get off" to

Jeritron 05-04-2010 10:43 PM
Bob Dylan's songs are always brought up as songs that are better when covered by ______. This is more than likely due to the fact that he's an incredible song writer but not a very good singer.
Before anyone freaks out at that, I love Bob Dylan. He's just not what you would traditionally considered a great performer.

McLegend 05-04-2010 10:48 PM
I like 80's music, and right now I really like Tears for Fears.

Saying that Gary Jules version of "Mad World" is far superior to the original.


Tears for Fears

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Gary Jules

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Loose Cannon 05-04-2010 10:52 PM
I do like Cash's Hurt better then NIN, but I was never a NIN fan. I do love the Cash video as well. It's really good.

With Hallelujah, I didn't realize it was covered so much. Who did the original? I've always been of fan of the Rufus Wainwright version. That's a song I love to play on piano and he did it on piano.


My favorite that I can think of right now is Am I Wrong by Brand New. They covered the Love Spit Love song

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blake639raw 05-04-2010 11:23 PM
Pretty much every song The Beatles covered is better than the original.

OssMan 05-05-2010 12:33 AM
There are always people who are like "I didn't even know that was a cover." You will find that a lot with Limp Bizkit's "Behind Blue Eyes," people don't know it was by The Who. That Mad World song was all over the Gears of War commercial and Donnie Darko so probably that one too. Through this thread I have learned that hitting the right arrow key during a youtube video will make it skip ahead.

.44 Magdalene 05-05-2010 01:44 AM
Yeah, I've gotta give something for the Rufus Wainright version of Hallelujah, as well.

Also,

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The Genius 05-05-2010 02:20 AM
the killer's version of Shadowplay is better than Joy Division's.

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dronepool 05-05-2010 02:40 AM
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Juan 05-05-2010 03:00 AM
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.44 Magdalene 05-05-2010 03:14 AM
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.44 Magdalene 05-05-2010 03:22 AM
Though I'm sure people will disagree with me~

El Vaquero de Infierno 05-05-2010 11:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3055163)
Bob Dylan's songs are always brought up as songs that are better when covered by ______. This is more than likely due to the fact that he's an incredible song writer but not a very good singer.
Before anyone freaks out at that, I love Bob Dylan. He's just not what you would traditionally considered a great performer.
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Jon Kano 05-05-2010 01:35 PM
I prefer and think this....

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Is better than this....and I'm a big Kinks fan..

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Mooияakeя™ 05-05-2010 04:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by McLegend (Post 3055181)
I like 80's music, and right now I really like Tears for Fears.

Saying that Gary Jules version of "Mad World" is far superior to the original.
Fucking hell. Listen, the beauty of humankind is we can all like different things (which doesn't happen these days with the youth eating up the similar sounding Auto-Tuned RnB crap out there). But oh my god I actually fucking am shocked someone would say this.

I guess there's someone out there who prefers DJ Sammy's version of Bryan Adams' "Heaven". All that "stripped" stuff is cos people just can't compete with the originals and tends to try to tug on the heart strings of the fools who fall in.

TFF > Gary Jules.

But I know you're not the only one, I just fucking hope I'm not the only one who thinks what I think, cos I do believe the world would be wrong. TFF are amazing and their production detail for the time is devastating spot on.

Shisen Kopf 05-22-2010 08:57 PM
Reel Big Fish
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owns Phil Collins

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FakeLaser 05-23-2010 11:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Genius (Post 3055549)
the killer's version of Shadowplay is better than Joy Division's.

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Are you fucking kidding me? Worst cover ever.

MaxPower 05-31-2010 01:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3055163)
Bob Dylan's songs are always brought up as songs that are better when covered by ______. This is more than likely due to the fact that he's an incredible song writer but not a very good singer.
Before anyone freaks out at that, I love Bob Dylan. He's just not what you would traditionally considered a great performer.
That is true, but I still feel like Guns 'N Roses version of Knockin' on Heaven's Door was better than the original.

Funky Fly 05-31-2010 05:33 AM
Bruce Dickinson - The Zoo >>>>>>>>> Scorpions - The Zoo

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Danny Electric 05-31-2010 09:04 PM
Ryan Adams cover of 'Wonderwall' is a personal fav of mine.

therocksays 05-31-2010 09:28 PM
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Juan 06-01-2010 05:52 AM
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.44 Magdalene 06-01-2010 06:37 PM
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.44 Magdalene 06-01-2010 06:43 PM
And it might not be better, but I do like it more.

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Hanso Amore 06-01-2010 07:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 3089634)
Bruce Dickinson - The Zoo >>>>>>>>> Scorpions - The Zoo

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NO FUCKING WAY

I love Bruce, but the Scorps cannot be beaten

Nark Order 06-01-2010 09:01 PM
Actually went to post that Daughtry cover but Juan beat me to it.

dablackguy 06-02-2010 12:53 AM
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>>>>>>>>>

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parkmania 06-07-2010 12:31 AM
Here's a cover that's certainly more recognized, if not generally considered better:

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<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/7n0pf7anLa4&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/7n0pf7anLa4&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>


Here's another one:
<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JH3WvI_S6-k&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JH3WvI_S6-k&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/mJqh6au7Ol0&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/mJqh6au7Ol0&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

BigDaddyCool 06-07-2010 10:02 AM
<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/t0ryRksbQvU&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/t0ryRksbQvU&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/pNHlVo0cPa8&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/pNHlVo0cPa8&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

I'm not sure I would say one is better than the other, both pretty kick ass.

Blue Demon 06-07-2010 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dablackguy (Post 3092034)
<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/64_7R-7vCS0&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xd0d0d0&hl=en_US&feature=player_detailpage&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/64_7R-7vCS0&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xd0d0d0&hl=en_US&feature=player_detailpage&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

>>>>>>>>>

<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/qqYBGcv41M8&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xd0d0d0&hl=en_US&feature=player_detailpage&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/qqYBGcv41M8&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xd0d0d0&hl=en_US&feature=player_detailpage&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>
I would definately say the original Don Henley version is better in this case...

BigDaddyCool 06-07-2010 10:13 AM
<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ZujuYiweht8&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ZujuYiweht8&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/u6KXgjLqSTg&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/u6KXgjLqSTg&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

I like the disturbed verison better.


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