MMA Thread
 

Looking at my Gucci, it's about that time..

To start off the discussion, with Silva backing out of the Liddell fight, and with the Rashad/Tito draw, what is going to happen in the light heavyweight title hunt??

Here's what I've been thinking:

-If Shogun comes to UFC, let him fight Liddell instead of that faggot Wanderlei..

-Let Rashad and Tito fight again..

-Then, let the winner of those two matches fight for the number one contender spot..

I know Rampage is fighting Dan Henderson, so the winner of that fight can go on to fight someone like Bonnar, Vitor Belfor, Forrest Griffen, etc..

Thoughts??

I think you're just going to end up with Chuck/Tito again, which is a good money match really. And I don't know if either could stop Rampage, though believe it or not I think Tito could take him. His style lends better to a fight against Jackson then Chucks.

But what happens to Rashad?? I mean, wasn't that fight (Ortiz/Evans) for a contender spot??

They have to have Ortiz and Evans again. I don't know wtf is going on with Silva or Shogun.

I do think Chuck deserves a rematch even though it's 2-0 Rampage.. I mean, Chuck DOMINATED the 205lbs division in UFC for like 3 years..

I think Tito would beat Rashad in the rematch. I honestly think Tito underestimated Rashad. I know it's not the Tito of all, but I think the draw may have been a bit of a reality check.

Check def deserves another shot, but for his sake he has to have another match before that. You CANNOT go into a rematch against a guy who has beat you 2 times straight wtihout getting a win on someone before that to rebuild yourself.

Tito couldn't beat his own meat, let alone Rashad..

(Jenna gave him the penis rot)

I think he could beat Rashad. And yeah, I know Jenna gave him the rot :( He needs to distance himself from that. I mean wtf, she came to big bear with him for the Rashad fight?!?!

I am not sure about Tito anymore. He is one of my favourites but he is really looking to be on a downward spiral.

I am just talking shit because I've never like Tito..

:y:

Rashad should kill Tito.

Have you seen some of Tito's shots? They look horrible.

I never saw the PPV.. My bro still has in on his DVR, I just haven't made it over there to watch it yet..

I was always a Captain America fan but say what you will, Tito of old was great. I see glimmers of it in him now, he's just got to refocus.

PPPPLLLUS like I said, I think Tito's style has the best chance against Rampage baring Henderson.

Oh please! Did you even watch their fight. Ortiz owned him for 13 minutes of a 15 minute fight. And he wasn't close to being finished before the clock.

Yes I watched the fight, and I now think Tito is done has being a top echlon fighter.

Tito's wrestling looks terrible, and I have no faith that Tito can beat Rashad again. I argee that he did "win" the fight, but those last 2 mintues were more dominat then the previous 13 for Tito. Rashad is gonna have so much confidence for the 2nd fight. He's gonna win.

Tito hasn't looked good in a fight since he has come back to the UFC.

Right now, I wouldn't call Ortiz a top 5 light heavyweight (am I sucking his cock now people?).

His wrestling is fine. Because he doesn't use it all the time, it doesn't make it worse than it is. It's obviously better than Rashad's and it wasn't meant to be at all going into their fight. I'll bet anyone $100 that Tito beats Rashad in the second fight INSIDE the distance or by winning every round on every score card.

As for not looking good. I disagree. He hasn't looked great but that's another story.

Vs. Griffin - Total domination until his gassed which is put down to a torn ACL going into the fight. Nobody can argue that Ortiz is a cardio machine normally.

Vs. Shamrock II - looked dominate against a past his prime Shamrock.

Vs. Shamrock III - looked even more dominate and a decisive finish.

Vs. Liddell - Looked fine until his KO. Arguably an early stoppage. Personally, I thought 10 more seconds wouldn't have hurt here but you can't really complain. Definate improvement from his first fight with Chuck.

Vs. Evans - Not at his best but looked dominate again. Evans was lucky to escape with a draw due to a dodgy referee call (everyone grabs the fence and NOBODY ever gets punished) and the time running out in the second round when Evans was seconds from being out from the gullitine.

Ortiz still needs to beat Evans and beat a top 5 fighter though.

For the record I didn't count the Shamrock fights, because Shamrock passed his prime didn't stand a chance.

I still think Tito lost that fight against Forrest, but I will cut him some slack since he had that injury.

But see against Chuck I could argue that the fight should have been stopped in the first round, because I actually think that was way closer then in the 3rd round where it was stopped.

Then moving on when he would shoot on Chuck he kept telegraphing them, and basically like stood no chance of taking Chuck down. Which is what he did against Rashad aside from the first takedown where he did that high kick out of no where.

I'll give Tito credit though for developing his stand up, but he has no knock out power what so ever on his feet. I think he he as to diver more of his attention back to his wrestling.

Basically though I think the evolution of MMA has passed Tito Ortiz by.

To be fair, Chuck has one of the best sprawls in the business. Very few people CAN take Chuck down effectively.

Yeah I know, but Tito is supposed to be an excellent wrestler.

And I'm not knocking Tito for not taking Chuck down more. I'm knocking just for the way is wrestling looked. He did all these shots from the outside and gave himself even less of a chance of taking Chuck down.

I'm knocking him for technique.

Brock Lesnar is an excellent wrestlers but the reports are he couldn't even get close to Shelton Benjamin, nevermind Kurt Angle. Lesnar didn't show any wrestling technique in his MMA fight but he has it.

I hope Tito proves me wrong and wins his next 7 fights against top level guys, becuase he is so important to the money making aspect of MMA. The man knows how to promote himself and a fight.

He's a great personality.

Nah, he is replacable..

Rampage has more charisma in his pinky finger than Tito has in his whole body..

Tito is replacable. But there is nobody out there to replace him right now. Rampage is another type of charisma. Hasn't got the charisma to build a feud and have people love or hate him. Every Ortiz fight is an event now. Rampage won't get that unless he tears through the 205lbs division. And he won't.

YES HE WILL

:foc:

:(

I like Rampage but I have to disagree. Rampage is a brawler, openly admitted one too. For me, I believe technique will win a fight 7/10 times, because of the decision factor. Of course thats just me, but some of these upsets were because that particular fighter doing the upsetting was just where he needed to be technically.

I believe Dan is going to win the next fight, and if he does, watch out 205lb division. Especially since 205 is light heavy in US, and 205 was middleweight in pride. He will be at his best shape. Everyone underestimates him, especially his standup. His striking has improved alot. Oh yea, and that olympic class wrestling, cant forget about that.

Speaking of Lesnar earlier, who/when is his next fight?

I talked to Hero and he stickied this for us.. My idea is, we can make a new one like every 6 monthes depending on how big it gets..

:y:

Yeah and I agree about Rampage but I am a Quinton Jackson mark..

What can I say??

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UFC 74

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</td> <td> <table class="listing" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <th>Date Time:</th> <td> 08/25/2007 7pm PT / 10pm ET </td> </tr> <tr> <th nowrap="nowrap">Event Type:</th> <td>PPV Live</td> </tr> <tr> <th>Location:</th> <td>Mandalay Bay Events Center, Nevada
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http://www.ufc.com/Images/pixel.gif </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <input name="EventID" value="760" type="hidden"> <table class="data_table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr class="data_title"> <td colspan="7"> Randy Couture Vs. Gabriel Gonzaga </td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td width="15"> </td> <td valign="top" width="150"> <table class="data_table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Name:</td> <td>Randy Couture</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Height:</td> <td>6' 2" (188 cm)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Weight:</td> <td>220 (100 kg)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Record:</td> <td>15-8-0</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td valign="top" width="185"> </td> <td width="95">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td align="right" valign="top" width="150"> <table class="data_table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Name:</td> <td>Gabriel Gonzaga </td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Height:</td> <td>6' 1" (185 cm)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Weight:</td> <td>242 (110 kg)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Record: </td> <td>8-1-0</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td align="right" valign="top" width="185"> </td> <td width="15"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="7" bgcolor="silver">
</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

<table class="data_table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr class="data_title"> <td colspan="7"> Josh Koscheck Vs. Georges St-Pierre </td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td width="15"> </td> <td valign="top" width="150"> <table class="data_table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Name:</td> <td>Josh Koscheck</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Height:</td> <td>5' 10" (178 cm)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Weight:</td> <td>170 (77 kg)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Record:</td> <td>11-2-0</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td valign="top" width="185"> </td> <td width="95">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td align="right" valign="top" width="150"> <table class="data_table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Name:</td> <td>Georges St-Pierre </td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Height:</td> <td>5' 10" (178 cm)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Weight:</td> <td>170 (77 kg)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Record: </td> <td>13-2-0</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td align="right" valign="top" width="185"> </td> <td width="15"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="7" bgcolor="silver">
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<table class="data_table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr class="data_title"> <td colspan="7"> Kurt Pellegrino Vs. Joe Stevenson </td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td width="15"> </td> <td valign="top" width="150"> <table class="data_table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Name:</td> <td>Kurt Pellegrino</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Height:</td> <td>5' 8" (173 cm)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Weight:</td> <td>155 (70 kg)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Record:</td> <td>16-2-0</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td valign="top" width="185"> </td> <td width="95">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td align="right" valign="top" width="150"> <table class="data_table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Name:</td> <td>Joe Stevenson </td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Height:</td> <td>5' 7" (170 cm)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Weight:</td> <td>155 (70 kg)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Record: </td> <td>32-7-0</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td align="right" valign="top" width="185"> </td> <td width="15"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="7" bgcolor="silver">
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<table class="data_table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="data_title"> <td colspan="7"> Patrick Cote Vs. Kendall Grove </td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td width="15"> </td> <td valign="top" width="150"> <table class="data_table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Name:</td> <td>Patrick Cote</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Height:</td> <td>5' 11" (180 cm)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Weight:</td> <td>185 (84 kg)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Record:</td> <td>10-4-0</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td valign="top" width="185"> </td> <td width="95">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td align="right" valign="top" width="150"> <table class="data_table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Name:</td> <td>Kendall Grove </td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Height:</td> <td>6' 6" (198 cm)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Weight:</td> <td>185 (84 kg)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Record: </td> <td>10-3-0</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td align="right" valign="top" width="185"> </td> <td width="15"> </td></tr></tbody></table>

That you're a Quinton Jackson mark :D

Gabe
GSP
Stevenson
Cote

Really looking forward to Cote vs Grove..

You're seriously picking Gabe over Couture??

Sure he caught Cro Cop with that vicious head kick but I'm taking Couture.. Specially if Couture takes it to the ground, which will happen..

Couture
GSP
Stevenson (even though I hate him)
Grove (this will be the fight of the night)

I'm not saying I want it to happen but I think it's realistic. And I'm not picking him because of what he did to Mirco because frankly I expected him to beat him, not with that kick, but I expected it. I think he provides a different fight for Randy than Randy has had to deal with so far. I want Cap to win, but I can see the upset.

(also for the record Gabe is one of my favorite up and comers)

Randy is a monster, but at some point someone has to take the torch, Gabe could do it. He won't carry the company or be the rep that Randy is, but he could take over that division.

Woah now it's no fluke if Gonzaga beats Coture. Gonzaga is a beast with plenty of skill.

On name value alone, it's a fluke, it's an upset, it's every words that can go along with that. That being said, I think he can do it, hence why I'm picking him knowing most everyone is going to say I'm crazy, and knowing i'm picking him over like... my hero.

Nothing against Gonzaga, but I don't think he can take Couture, specially after how good Randy looked in that clinic he put on against Silvia..

Silva isn't the same type of fighter that Randy is. I don't think Randy has fought someone so well rounded in a while. Hence why I think it's a problem match up and for my hero's sake, I wish Mirko had kicked Gabe's head off.

I though Cro Cop was gonna be the heavyweights saving grace.. Thank God for Couture..

Fedor needs to come on over..

I knew he wasn't going to do well. I had a feeling the cage would fuck him, then they paired him against Gabe who I said would win. Again, had no idea he'd actually kick his head off, but I did expect a ground and pound victory.

That being said I was terribly excited about him coming. And yes, Fedor would be awesome.

Fedor vs Coture would be godly.

He did more than catch Cro Cop with a head kick. He absolutely dominated the round. Cro Cop isn't exactly easy to take down either and Gonzaga did it with ease.

I'm picking Randy to beat Gonzaga purely because I can't go against him in underdog fights now after what he has done. However, this is a heart pick. Head says Gonzaga will win and should be considered a good favourite.

He's only had like ten fights.. Randy will beat him with experience alone..

I'll be pissed if GSP looses to fuckin Kos...I think Gonzaga has a hell of a chance to beat Randy..but I see Couture prevailing.

Cap
GSP
Stevenson
Kendall

I see Randy putting on a wrestling Clinic, and keeping Gonzaga on his back and submissionless for 3 rounds before Gonzaga gasses and Randy pounds him out, or chokes him. Not to take anything away from Gonzaga, but I dont think either guy will look to stand up. Both want to go to the ground, where I think Randy's wrestling is far superior to Gabe's BJJ.

Gabe will probably set up another head kick that I think will lead to the first take down.

Rest of the fight card looks promising so far though. Kendall by submission in round 2 or 3. Stevenson by decision. Kos and GSP is a toss up for me, although I do understand why everyone would label him to win. If Kos puts George on his back, it wont be good for him. If GSP keeps it on the feet, it could go the other way. I think this will actually be fight of the night, with constant action. Probably going the distance and ending in a decision.

Cro Cop has had 5 or more fights than Couture and Gonzaga whooped him.

Coture/Gonzaga is one of the hardest matches to predict all year due to Gonzaga's upset over Cro Cop and Coture's age. Sure he handled Silva with ease but to me Silva wasn't anything to brag about necessarily, just fat guy with a good team. Gonzaga has a lot of momentum going in and I would think that Coture is the underdog because of his age. I am a Coture mark and he is my favorite fighter and is in the top of the Heavyweight division but upsets happen like foul balls in UFC.

Well in terms of all the national champ HWT wrestlers through the years, Brock is nowhere near the best, but he did take the guy down with a train double leg in his fight before he started pummeling him, so i dont see how he didnt show his wrestling skills.

gabe is a better striker than cotour and more well rounded on the ground. Randy is a wrestler so he has excellent possitioning and can stay out of submissions, but gonzaga is real good in jujitsu and a good wrestler as well.

Silvia is terrible. He was good back in the day but for some reason he doesnt like to go out there and fight anymore. If its because he was injured then it must have been real bad because he looked like he couldnt move.

cotour might be the only man that can get into fedor's head. Fedor has said that he looks up to randy and that might be a big distraction if they were ever to meet.

The Arlovski KO made him timid.. I juts hope he stays outta the picture for a long time..

well yea but he still KOed Arlovski in the second fight. He really changed it up once he got the title. He needs to get back to the shape he was in when he first came to the ufc

And what he did do that Ortiz didn't?

UFC 75 with Rampage and Henderson will air on Spike TV.

go to a d1 program all american 4 times and win the d1 championship his senior year. In terms of the match he did what he should do, bring it to the ground... what does tito have to do with it anyway? get off his nuts. Everyone says tito has amazing wrestling skills. But everyone is basing that off all his opponents he had before his first fight with randy cotour. He had the basics and it made him look amazing against guys that had almost no experience other than jujitsu or judo. Of course hes going to look like a wrestling god. What happened when he went up against someone who actually did have amazing wrestling skill??? *cough* Randy *cough*.... HE GOT HIS ASS BEAT. All tito has wrestled was a bit for junior college which california junior colleges dont even participate in the njcaa national championship with the rest of the country. If evans was as big/strong as tito, tito would have gotten smoked again. Hes a good brawler but hes a jack of some trades and master of none. He has OK striking, decent wrestling, almost no submissions to speak of, supposedly he has this awsome conditioning. He better start to focus on what he needs to do to get himself better or hes going to turn into a shamrock real fast.

BEST-NEWS-EVER

Man I love the UFC. People say boxing is better but I say nah. I love seeing someone getting rocked and falling. But my favorate fighter is Forrest Griffin. But I cant keep up with everything. Im good at fighting UFC style

I stopped reading after this line. Did he do all this during his first MMA match? No. The point is that he didn't showcase his wrestling skills in his fight anymore than Ortiz did in his but yet we know his pedigree. Again, because you don't show the skills it doesn't mean you don't have them.

Well since you can only read one line of text Im going to break it up for you.

Brock train doubled the guy, then beat him into submission.

Double legs are big in wrestling.

The guy tapped in like 30 seconds. I cant believe your using this as an example.

Wrestling skill has nothing to do with submissions/jujitsu. Wrestling is all possitioning and technique. I.E Sean Sherk (perfect example of wrestling skill in MMA)

In case you have learned to read more than one line of text at a time Im going to repost this:

Everyone says tito has amazing wrestling skills. But everyone is basing that off all his opponents he had before his first fight with randy cotour.

He had the basics and it made him look amazing against guys that had almost no experience other than jujitsu or judo. Of course hes going to look like a wrestling god.

What happened when he went up against someone who actually did have amazing wrestling skill??? *cough* Randy *cough*.... HE GOT HIS ASS BEAT.

If evans was as big/strong as tito, tito would have gotten smoked again.

Tito is a good brawler but hes a jack of some trades and master of none. He has OK striking, decent wrestling, almost no submissions to speak of, supposedly he has this awsome conditioning.

He better start to focus on what he needs to do to get himself better or hes going to turn into a shamrock real fast.

Since someone said something about the Cage Grabbing penalty, what about Tito's Ball Punch in Round two? Which was some time after the Cage Grab, and went uncalled.

Chuck Liddell vs. Keith Jardine confirmed for UFC 76.

Should be an entertaining fight at least.

Liddell is going to KO him in the first..

WTF at a dumb money move by UFC, I feel like I should have to pay to see Rampage/Henderson. Liddell/Jardine, not so much. UFC is genius though this is going to bring in such great fucking ratings.

Thats my bet :y:

Okay :roll:

No. They base that on his previous wrestling experience but his competing in the Abu Dhabi wrestling tournaments and what not.


Bullshit but whatever. His basic wrestling beat black belt BJJ? What does that tell you?

Got beat by an Olympic standard wrestler? Lots of shame in that. Not like Randy Couture has beaten anyone of any importance since right.


But Evans isn't as big or strong so this is fucking nonsense. I'd beat Tito if I had great wrestling skills and weighed 220lbs on the day of the fight. But I don't so it's irrelevant. Move on.


His conditioning has never been suspect since he lost to Frank Shamrock. Rashad was 5 seconds from being choked out from those no submissions too.

How many men has Ortiz lost to in the last 8 years? 2. Shamrock has barely beaten 2 men in that time.

1 - Unless it's absolutely blatant, they never take away a point for the first low blow.

2 - Was it after the cage grab? I seem to remember him being taken down and then putting Rashad in the choke to end the round.

It tells me that any wrestling experience gives you a huge advantage in MMA... umm duh



See this is just proof that you would was titos balls if he asked you too. There is no shame in losing to randy you nitwit. On the randy comment I dont know whether your being a smart ass or a dumbass but whatever.




ok fair enough



The guillotine is the most basic choke hold there is. Its almost instictual to apply it. Oh and that basic move DIDNT submit Rashad. Move On.


8 years ago tito was killing people. Im talking about him now. And yea Frank actually beat 4 people Since beating Ortiz.

Final thought on this.

If the second round went five second longer, the ref was stopping the fight due to the choke. Difference between this round and the third where Ortiz let the clock run down whilst on his back. If the situation was reversed, I'd be defending Evans.

Guillotines might be basic chokes but that doesn't stop the fact Evans was passing out.

Tito has only lost to 2 world class fighters in 8 years. I'm still saying he isn't a top 5 205lbs fighter right now but he is FAR from past it. I don't know where you were going with Couture. All I'm saying is a Olympic level wrestler owned him. Ortiz's wrestling is fine until facing top level wrestlers and there aren't many of them in his division in the UFC. Aside from Liddell and Shogun, I'd make Ortiz a favourite against fighter in his division in the world. Yes even Silva in a cage with UFC rules.

Frank Shamrock barely fought in 8 years.

Shogun vs Griffin now. That should probably be the main event.

Tito dont beat Rampage.

Can anyone post video of Nick Diaz's gogoplata on Gomi from Pride 33?

AND THE TRUTH... SHALL SET YOU FREE!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.mmanews.com/ufc/Silva-Exp...ell-Fight.html

Dana white is an asshole sometimes

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So Sherk and Franca both tested positive for a banned substance.

This is just great for the sport.

Mother of God...

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...=4359&zoneid=2

Actually I think this isn't a huge deal for the sport in terms of back lash. It sucks because two of your guys are out for a year, but it will make them more reputable than say WWE. UFC fines guys and bares them for a year, WWE slaps them on the wrist and says stop that. Obviously there's going to be some commentary on fighters failing, but at least UFC/Nevada are taking strong steps in cleaning it up.

Oh yes I agree but this is a bad time for one of their champs to be failing.

Especially Sherk. I love Sherk :(

It is in relation to what happened recently with WWE.

Yeah, that was my point Rob. It will help make them seem more legit being that they are following through on their test.

well at least the wanderlei liddel fight is still supposed to happen :shifty:

damn..so I guess Sherk is gonna get stripped of his title? Huerta baby!!

Huerta is way overhyped. Its only a matter of time before he gets beat by someone we never expected to beat him.

That title would look nice around BJ Penn

so we're just overlooking dana white being a lying peice of shit?

Common knowledge that Dana White is a dick.

Seriously you gotta be a fucking idiot to use a banned substance while training for a main event fight. You're going to be tested if you're in the main event. Stupid that both of them did it.

Dana White is the fuckin man FTW

You're probably right, his last 2 fights have been close. But he's still one of my favorites..although he's still a notch or 2 below a BJ Penn.

I dont think Dana White is a lying peice of shit. Liddel is coming off a loss, why would Dana not wanna make that fight. Its one of the only fights he can make concerning Liddel that would make alot of money. Everything else wouldnt make sense.

Wanderlei signed for the fight but in november instead of september which wasnt good for dana. So he went on a smeer camaign and slamed wanderlei saying he backed out. Thats a bunch of shit.

Crazy about Sherk and Franca failing that piss test..

I hope Chuck KO's Wanderlei if/when it happens..