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weather vane 02-28-2008 03:36 AM
Top 10 Hockey Players of All Time
 
I have noticed that the boards has more knowledgible hockey fans than I thought. So lets see what some of you think.

1. Wayne Gretzky
2. Bobby Orr
3. Mario Lemieux
4. Gordie Howe
5. Maurice Richard
6. Mark Messier
7. Patrick Roy
8. Ray Bourque
9. Bobby Hull
10. Steve Yzerman

HONORABLE MENTIONS - Doug Harvey, Joe Sakic, Guy Lafleur, Terry Sawchuk, Eddie Shore

El Fangel 02-28-2008 03:44 AM


1) Dominik Hasek
2) Wayne Gretzky
3) Maurice Richard
4) Patrick Roy
5) Martin Broudeur
6) Ed Belfour
7) Mark Messier
8) Steve Yzerman
9) Jaromir Jagr
10) Matthew Barnaby

weather vane 02-28-2008 03:48 AM
I stand corrected... lol

El Fangel 02-28-2008 04:23 AM
Oops, I thought it said YOUR.

Ignore that list then.

LoDownM 02-28-2008 04:52 AM
FFS FA, Hasek and no Mario Lemieux? I think I might come up to Canada and shoot you.

El Fangel 02-28-2008 04:57 AM
If it was my top 100 favorite list, he would not be on it, I dislike Mario.

El Fangel 02-28-2008 04:58 AM
In actuality, my top 10 would be about the same as Spilchuk, but put Hasek above Roy.

LoDownM 02-28-2008 05:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 2063268)
If it was my top 100 favorite list, he would not be on it, I dislike Mario.
First the GT500 thing, now Le Magnifique hating. WE ARE NOW ENEMIES FOR LIFE. :rant::mad:

Also, Barnaby? SERIOUSLY? He was never anything beyond slightly above average.

El Fangel 02-28-2008 05:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LoDownM (Post 2063270)
First the GT500 thing, now Le Magnifique hating. WE ARE NOW ENEMIES FOR LIFE. :rant::mad:

Also, Barnaby? SERIOUSLY? He was never anything beyond slightly above average.
I have no clue why, I just dont like Mario, I like Jagr, does that help any.

Penalty minutes are I dunno, a little above average.

LoDownM 02-28-2008 05:15 AM
I don't see how you could put Hasek above Broudeur and Roy either as far as goalies go.

El Fangel 02-28-2008 05:18 AM
Have either of them won back to back Vezina trophys and get a mediocre team at best to the Cup?

El Fangel 02-28-2008 05:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LoDownM (Post 2063280)
I don't see how you could put Hasek above Broudeur and Roy either as far as goalies go.
Oh and all due respect, they both are amazing goalies, they are behind Hasek, Respectively as you put them.

Stickman 02-28-2008 12:59 PM
1) Gretzky
2) Orr
3) Howe
4) Lemieux
5) Bobby Hull
6) Richard
7) Messier
8) Sawcuk
9) Roy
10) Coffee

Honourable mention. Brett Hull and a guy who gets little credit but the player with most cup rings is Henri Richard. He must of been doing somethign right.

LoDownM 02-28-2008 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 2063286)
Have either of them won back to back Vezina trophys
Back to back? Yes. 3 in row, no. Marty probably would of had it not been for the lockout.

Loose Cannon 02-28-2008 03:20 PM
1. Wayne Gretzky
2. Bobby Orr
3. Mario Lemieux
4. Gordie Howe
5. Maurice Richard
6. Mark Messier
7. Adam Banks
8. Ray Bourque
9. Bobby Hull
10. Charlie Conway

Stickman 02-28-2008 05:50 PM
lol

Blitz 02-28-2008 05:55 PM
Hasek at #1 are you joking me.

El Fangel 02-28-2008 06:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitz (Post 2063818)
Hasek at #1 are you joking me.
Goddamit Blitz, Thats my favorites list, not who I think is the top 10 of all time.

FakeLaser 02-28-2008 06:21 PM
Loose Cannon already made my Mighty Ducks joke.

Wolf "The Dentist" Stanson is #1 though.

Stickman 02-28-2008 06:45 PM
Hanson Brothers are def top three.

CSL 02-28-2008 07:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 2063569)
1. Wayne Gretzky
2. Bobby Orr
3. Mario Lemieux
4. Gordie Howe
5. Maurice Richard
6. Mark Messier
7. Adam Banks
8. Ray Bourque
9. Bobby Hull
10. Charlie Conway
You can't have Banks and Conway and not have Portman, Reed or Woo Woo Kenny Wu

CSL 02-28-2008 07:26 PM
#1 Wayne Gretzky
The rest in a rough order: Lemieux, Orr, Howe, Richard, Hull, Richard, Sawchuk, Beliveau, Bourque

CSL 02-28-2008 07:31 PM
Put Richard twice. Throw in Messier or Roy at the end

Skippord 02-28-2008 08:34 PM
Joe Sakic(x10)

Nervous Ferret 02-28-2008 08:36 PM
Goldberg!

Zen v.W.o. 02-28-2008 10:15 PM
Lemieux
Gretzky
Orr
Richard
Howe
Jagr
Messier
Roy
Bobby Hull
Yzerman

YOUR Hero 02-29-2008 10:01 AM
Orr
Gretzky
Lemieux
Richard
Howe
Messier
Yzerman
Sakic
LaFleur
Esposito

road doggy dogg 03-01-2008 12:59 AM
How the fuck can you not like Lemieux? I mean, everything he's given his team, his franchise, and the league. Watching him play was something else. Dunno.

Blitz 03-01-2008 01:02 AM
Lemieux is def #1 for me. Dunno about the rest. Gretzky obv, Roy, Howe, Yzerman, Brodeur....dunno who else.

MVP 03-01-2008 01:15 AM
Gretzky
Orr
Lemieux
Howe
Richard
Messier
Yzerman
Esposito
Bobby Hull
Roy

YOUR Hero 03-01-2008 01:26 PM
Trottier was a heel of a player too. Hard to leave him off, Bossy 10 years 50+ goals, 4 Cups. Those two were great... Lots of guys like Bobby Clarke, Henri Richard, Gainey, Hull(s)... Yeah lots of guys Dryden, Roy, Brodeur, Sawchuck....

WestNZ 03-04-2008 03:09 PM
1 Jagr
2 Roy
3 Broduer (forgive the spelling)

the rest dont matter

MMH 03-12-2008 10:46 PM
how is Gretzky better than Orr somebody please tell me how Gretzky is better than Orr.

MMH 03-12-2008 10:49 PM
Bobby Orr
Wayne Gretzky
Mario Lemieux
Gordie Howe
Maurice Richard
Mark Messier
Patrick Roy
Phil Esposito
Guy Lafleur
Mike Bossy

Lara Emily 03-14-2008 12:07 AM
Mario Lemieux
Bobby Orr
Wayne Gretzky
Gordie Howe
Maurice Richard
Mark Messier
Martin Brodeur
Ray Bourque
Ron Francis
Steve Yzerman

Honestly after the top 5 there's a huge list of guys who could be 6-10

Stickman 03-14-2008 01:41 PM
Better question. Who is the Greatest of all time? It's gotta be Gretzky BUT, it's possibly Orr.

MMH 03-14-2008 02:06 PM
ROBERT GORDON ORR.

Gretzky was unbelievable yes, but let's not forget all the shit that gave him a helping hand. First of all, scoring points is only one part of the game of hockey. The most important one but not the only one. Gretzky played in the high-scoring 80's where everyone was softened up and goalies sucked monkey nuts. Moreover, Gretzky had his protection crew making sure the Great One doesn't get bodychecked or ELSE.

Bobby Orr despite being a defensemen was tremendous on offense. He could dominate on his way to the net (coast-to-coast anyone?) or protecting the net. He revolutionized the game in the sense that prior to him defensemen basically just played D, whereas Orr took it to another level and laid the foundation for the Coffey's, Lidstrom's and Leetch's. He was exceptionally good at ALL parts of the game, unlike Gretzky. Orr could score, defend, skate, fight, hit, play conservative, take risks, play aggressive, he was clutch, he was tough and he was crafty. He played offense better than most forwards (only players scoring more P.P.G. are Gretzky, Lemieux, Bossy and Howe). Gretzky may have the statistics and it took a whole lot of external forces to make that happen, but Bobby Orr is the best all-rounder who played in a tougher, more physical era (Broad St. Bullies?) where goalies were far better. Plus Bobby Orr is a hard bastard who will kill you.

Stickman 03-18-2008 02:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MMH (Post 2082087)
ROBERT GORDON ORR.

Gretzky was unbelievable yes, but let's not forget all the shit that gave him a helping hand. First of all, scoring points is only one part of the game of hockey. The most important one but not the only one. Gretzky played in the high-scoring 80's where everyone was softened up and goalies sucked monkey nuts. Moreover, Gretzky had his protection crew making sure the Great One doesn't get bodychecked or ELSE.

Bobby Orr despite being a defensemen was tremendous on offense. He could dominate on his way to the net (coast-to-coast anyone?) or protecting the net. He revolutionized the game in the sense that prior to him defensemen basically just played D, whereas Orr took it to another level and laid the foundation for the Coffey's, Lidstrom's and Leetch's. He was exceptionally good at ALL parts of the game, unlike Gretzky. Orr could score, defend, skate, fight, hit, play conservative, take risks, play aggressive, he was clutch, he was tough and he was crafty. He played offense better than most forwards (only players scoring more P.P.G. are Gretzky, Lemieux, Bossy and Howe). Gretzky may have the statistics and it took a whole lot of external forces to make that happen, but Bobby Orr is the best all-rounder who played in a tougher, more physical era (Broad St. Bullies?) where goalies were far better. Plus Bobby Orr is a hard bastard who will kill you.
So um, how were the goalies better in the 70's than the 80s?

road doggy dogg 03-27-2008 11:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MMH (Post 2082087)
ROBERT GORDON ORR.

Gretzky was unbelievable yes, but let's not forget all the shit that gave him a helping hand. First of all, scoring points is only one part of the game of hockey. The most important one but not the only one. Gretzky played in the high-scoring 80's where everyone was softened up and goalies sucked monkey nuts. Moreover, Gretzky had his protection crew making sure the Great One doesn't get bodychecked or ELSE.

Bobby Orr despite being a defensemen was tremendous on offense. He could dominate on his way to the net (coast-to-coast anyone?) or protecting the net. He revolutionized the game in the sense that prior to him defensemen basically just played D, whereas Orr took it to another level and laid the foundation for the Coffey's, Lidstrom's and Leetch's. He was exceptionally good at ALL parts of the game, unlike Gretzky. Orr could score, defend, skate, fight, hit, play conservative, take risks, play aggressive, he was clutch, he was tough and he was crafty. He played offense better than most forwards (only players scoring more P.P.G. are Gretzky, Lemieux, Bossy and Howe). Gretzky may have the statistics and it took a whole lot of external forces to make that happen, but Bobby Orr is the best all-rounder who played in a tougher, more physical era (Broad St. Bullies?) where goalies were far better. Plus Bobby Orr is a hard bastard who will kill you.
You start by saying Gretzky isn't the best because "points alone don't matter", but the main point of your Orr splooge-fest is that he revolutionized the "offensive defenseman". Huh?


Don't get me wrong I think Orr is phenomenal but it's stupid to knock Gretzky down a notch because "all he did was score points", when you're praising Orr for primarily doing the same thing.
crossrine

Stickman 03-28-2008 01:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 2095667)
You start by saying Gretzky isn't the best because "points alone don't matter", but the main point of your Orr splooge-fest is that he revolutionized the "offensive defenseman". Huh?


Don't get me wrong I think Orr is phenomenal but it's stupid to knock Gretzky down a notch because "all he did was score points", when you're praising Orr for primarily doing the same thing.
crossrine

Orr was a defenceman though, they weren't known for scoring.


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