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Jeritron 10-28-2010 09:43 AM

Another Star Wars trilogy?
 
Rumor making the news rounds right now. Still a rumor, but a strong one.


http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com...news&Itemid=71


Really?

Ermaximus 10-28-2010 09:47 AM

I officially dislike George Lucas now if this is legit Jeri.

Jeritron 10-28-2010 09:52 AM

As a lifelong Star Wars fan, I definitely don't fall into the category of overly purist bitching. I was stoked for the prequels when they all came out, and even though I've come to dislike Episode 2 and a lot about Episode 1, I love Episode 3.
I was pretty happy with how they closed the book.

I'm all for the tv shows and video games living on and stuff too.

This pretty much sucks though. The prequels were warranted. But now there's absolutely no reason why it should be re-visited since the story is told. It's purely for financial and technical reasons.

Fignuts 10-28-2010 09:53 AM

This rumor was shot down by someone at Lucasfilms.

Fignuts 10-28-2010 09:56 AM

Also, sequels would be disastrous for the EU, I'd bet, unless they adapt the Thrawn Trilogy, or New Jedi Order, which is highly unlikely.

Ermaximus 10-28-2010 09:58 AM

I didn't like Episode 1 or 2 either, but 3 was pretty damn awesome for what it was. The only way I would enjoy a new trilogy in the SW universe would be if it had something to do with the Legacy storyline, but they totally fucked that storyline up.

Jeritron 10-28-2010 09:58 AM

If they're set way after the original trilogy, and have nothing to do with the central storyline of 1-6, what is the point in it being a Star Wars trilogy?
I guess in a way that's a plus side, since it won't connect to the story and characters that have already been completed, but I also highly doubt they won't find a way to cash in on familiar faces.

Jeritron 10-28-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3300375)
Also, sequels would be disastrous for the EU, I'd bet, unless they adapt the Thrawn Trilogy, or New Jedi Order, which is highly unlikely.

I highly doubt that would even register on Lucas' radar though. They've made their money on those EU stories already, and they still can.
And if these stories contradicted those, they'd just have all new projects to build another EU around this.
He contradicted EU stuff for the prequels and 99% of people had no clue or didn't care.
Even though I'm against him doing these I don't really care about the EU being encroached on.

Supreme Olajuwon 10-28-2010 10:03 AM

Sounds kind of lame, but what does he have to lose? His credibility already took a huge hit with Phantom Menace. He obviously has no interest or ability to create a new type of movie. And he's pretty much guaranteed to bank hundreds of millions of dollars with this because his detractors are the same people that see his movies 25 times each and buy all the merchandise.

He's already sold out, so he might as well sell out to the best of his abilities.

Jeritron 10-28-2010 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3300373)
This rumor was shot down by someone at Lucasfilms.

Any story on it? Curious to hear more. That could also be because that person works at Lucasfilm and Lucasfilm wants to make the announcement themselves.
But of course this is only a rumor at this point, so who knows. Just seems to have a lot of steam.

Joey Slugs 10-28-2010 10:05 AM

How much more of this series (or our childhoods) does he have left to fuck up and rape?

Jeritron 10-28-2010 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Joey Slugs (Post 3300386)
How much more of this series (or our childhoods) does he have left to fuck up and rape?

That argument has always been pretty stupid.

It's not like these movies would make any of the past films any worse or better. I just think it sucks in concept.

Fignuts 10-28-2010 10:08 AM

The contradictions that the prequels made, weren't that noticeable. But sequels would directly contradict just about everything if they were made. No Mara Jade? No twins? Much bigger deal than the small stuff the prequels fucked with.

Obviously Lucas and film purists won't care. Not even trying to say they should. But for me, and other EU fans it would suck. Because yeah, it's not official canon, but we still accept it as so. That would be hard to do, and would kind of diminish those stories for me, if movie sequels came out.

Jeritron 10-28-2010 10:10 AM

I can definitely appreciate how that would suck. But yea I just don't think Lucas would care at all is what I was saying. I think even when the EU started Episodes 7,8 and 9 were still a possibility, so they had to know at some point their stuff might become null and void.

Fignuts 10-28-2010 10:10 AM

I was too young to appreciate the movies when they came out, but when I got a little older, I got into the comics and novels. Basically grew up on EU stuff, so it holds a special place for me.

Ermaximus 10-28-2010 10:10 AM

Maybe if he doesn't direct these movies they'll be a lot better than the prequals?

Fignuts 10-28-2010 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3300394)
I can definitely appreciate how that would suck. But yea I just don't think Lucas would care at all is what I was saying. I think even when the EU started Episodes 7,8 and 9 were still a possibility, so they had to know at some point their stuff might become null and void.

Like I said, he shouldn't have to. His films, his story, he can do what he wants.

VSG 10-28-2010 10:13 AM

Wow! Let's hope he makes less cash off the movies in 3D/Bluray and hence can't finance this new saga.

Who am I kidding?

Ermaximus 10-28-2010 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by VSG (Post 3300399)
Wow! Let's hope he makes less cash off the movies in 3D/Bluray and hence can't finance this new saga.

Who am I kidding?

I see the Blu-Ray set going for at least $150 if not more.

Joey Slugs 10-28-2010 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3300387)
That argument has always been pretty stupid.

It's not like these movies would make any of the past films any worse or better. I just think it sucks in concept.

How is that argument stupid? The 3 prequels were absolutely horrible and now he wants to milk them for all they are worth in 3D? Is he broke?

He will find a way to change something around - just like he did in the prequels. Midichlorians, anyone?

VSG 10-28-2010 10:14 AM

He was planning to release them all separately to get all the more cash.

Fignuts 10-28-2010 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 3300396)
Maybe if he doesn't direct these movies they'll be a lot better than the prequals?

Or maybe he just learns from past mistakes? The prequels got progressively better, and Revenge was pretty great.

Also, Lucas made them as one overarching story. He is correct when he says they are meant to be seen all at once. It is definitely better that way.

Jeritron 10-28-2010 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 3300396)
Maybe if he doesn't direct these movies they'll be a lot better than the prequals?

Most likely. But I still think the concept of re-opening the saga is poor when it's been wrapped up, closed, and Lucas himself swore up and down it was over.
He should have considered that on Episode 1 and 2, when he had stories to tell and didn't execute properly.
Seems late now.

Having other people direct new stories, with all new characters and no ties to the other films...Doesn't that seem pointless? Like they should just be non-Star Wars movies?

Would John Williams even be alive to score this by the time it got underway?

Ermaximus 10-28-2010 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3300405)
Or maybe he just learns from past mistakes? The prequels got progressively better, and Revenge was pretty great.

Also, Lucas made them as one overarching story. He is correct when he says they are meant to be seen all at once. It is definitely better that way.

Time will tell I suppose. Fignuts, have you tried to watch all 6 movies in one sitting yet? I tried and only got half way into Episode 2 before I got bored. :-\

Jeritron 10-28-2010 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3300405)
Or maybe he just learns from past mistakes? The prequels got progressively better, and Revenge was pretty great.

Also, Lucas made them as one overarching story. He is correct when he says they are meant to be seen all at once. It is definitely better that way.

I thought 1 was better than 2 by a fair margin. Episode 2 had more action and elements connected to the original trilogy, but I felt it was a far worse film.

I do agree they're great to watch together, but I'd still reccomend someone who's watching them for the first time to watch them in order of release. For several reasons.

Jeritron 10-28-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 3300410)
Time will tell I suppose. Fignuts, have you tried to watch all 6 movies in one sitting yet? I tried and only got half way into Episode 2 before I got bored. :-\

Would you have gotten bored half way into Empire Strikes Back?

Jeritron 10-28-2010 10:21 AM

My friend Matt had never seen them in college, which was shocking. He watched them in order and was blown away how much better it started getting in Episode 3.

Ermaximus 10-28-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3300417)
Would you have gotten bored half way into Empire Strikes Back?

Mybe, but I'm not sure Jeri. I do have ADD, so that may have been a factor as well. I know I still have yet to watch Avatar in 1 sitting yet as well.

McLegend 10-28-2010 11:17 AM

I have always thought it was going to happen. Despite what George Lucas has said.


There is too much money to be made.

D Mac 10-28-2010 02:42 PM

Hope this gets done. Can never get enough Star Wars. Maybe a reboot of the originals? Who would play Luke, Han, Leia?

Xero 10-28-2010 02:43 PM

lol if this is actually a reboot and they remake the prequels, not the originals.

Lock Jaw 10-28-2010 04:20 PM

Present day Star Wars. In a galaxy far, far away but not a long time ago. The inhabitants are much like we are now, but they are beginning to discover the signs of this ancient civilization that came before them, but were more technologically advanced. WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM?! DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN.

Lock Jaw 10-28-2010 04:20 PM

(Spoilers: They were killed by Cylons)

Fignuts 10-28-2010 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 3300410)
Time will tell I suppose. Fignuts, have you tried to watch all 6 movies in one sitting yet? I tried and only got half way into Episode 2 before I got bored. :-\

I would get bored but more because of my ADD then the movies. I don't watch tv very long before I get bored. I like being active, and moving around.

I watched the prequels straight through with my dad, and it was his first time seeing it, so it was more fun for me than it would be just watching it alone.

RoXer 10-28-2010 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3300408)
Would John Williams even be alive to score this by the time it got underway?

Enter Michael Giacchino

Jeritron 10-28-2010 07:37 PM

The reason I think watching them in order of release is superior, is because that's the order they were written and I think intentional or not there is a lot of stuff in the prequels that is meant to be appreciate by those who have already seen the originals.
There are also cool things about watching it in the sequential order, but I think there's a sense of the originals already being common knowledge in the prequels.
Yoda's name isn't even mentioned until Episode 2. I think that happens with other characters too.
Plus you lose things like "Luke, I am your father", among others. I don't think I'd ever want to know the little green creature acting ridiculous towards Luke was Yoda. That's better as a suprise.

Fignuts 10-28-2010 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3300413)
I thought 1 was better than 2 by a fair margin. Episode 2 had more action and elements connected to the original trilogy, but I felt it was a far worse film.

I do agree they're great to watch together, but I'd still reccomend someone who's watching them for the first time to watch them in order of release. For several reasons.

It is very close for me. The pod race and Darth Maul fight were awesome, but the Obi-wan/Fetts battle, army of jedi, and Dooku vs Obi-Wan, anakin, and yoda tops it for me. I am a huge Fett fan, to be fair.

Also, Maul's death was ridiculously dumb. Just watched obi-wan flip over him and cut him in half, as if he was thinking he left the stove on in the morning.

Lucas seems to hate his secondary villains. Boba Fett gets knocked into the sarlacc by a blind guy. Maul observes obi-wans somersault form instead of defending himself. Jango just kind of stands there shooting at a jedi(like that ever works) until windu walks up and slices his head off. Grievous is an absolute pussy compared to his debut in clone wars.

Fignuts 10-28-2010 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3300976)
The reason I think watching them in order of release is superior, is because that's the order they were written and I think intentional or not there is a lot of stuff in the prequels that is meant to be appreciate by those who have already seen the originals.
There are also cool things about watching it in the sequential order, but I think there's a sense of the originals already being common knowledge in the prequels.
Yoda's name isn't even mentioned until Episode 2. I think that happens with other characters too.
Plus you lose things like "Luke, I am your father", among others. I don't think I'd ever want to know the little green creature acting ridiculous towards Luke was Yoda. That's better as a suprise.

There is no doubt. Vader and Yoda's reveals are ruined if you watch them chronologically.

Fignuts 10-28-2010 07:53 PM

Boba's is excusable tbh, as there was no way of knowing how popular he would be.

Grievous really irks me though.He was such a badass character, both in design, and backstory. He was easily the coolest part of the original clone wars cartoon. Just ass raped a handul of jedi at once, without even using all 4 arms. Would be fine if that was EU, but it's not. Those cartoons were canon, so his immediate transformation into a giant pussy stung a bit.

His actual death was fine, it was the fight itself which was dissapointing. He went from killing jedi by the dozen to getting owned by one. Yeah, it's obi-wan, but for as much as they hyped grievous up, he should have been the dominant one in the fight, and the lightsaber part should have been longer.

Joey Slugs 10-28-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3300980)
There is no doubt. Vader and Yoda's reveals are ruined if you watch them chronologically.

Exactly.


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