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11-09-2007, 09:34 PM | #642 |
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Did you see the fight?
BJ Penn dominted the first two rounds, and then got his ribs broken. Matt Serra was never dominted in their fight like Hughes was in his 2nd fight with Penn. Gotta look at the whole fight. |
11-09-2007, 09:53 PM | #643 |
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How were his ribs broken?
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11-09-2007, 09:56 PM | #644 |
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Never heard his ribs were broken.
And I did see the fight. And it looked like Penn gased, at which point Hughes took over. |
11-09-2007, 09:58 PM | #645 |
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EVEN IF THAT IS SO...okay were his ribs broken coming into the fight? No. He got them broken during the fight.
Hello. They're fighting. You might get a broken rib. It's not like an injury is an unexpected consequence of fighting. No, it's part of the fight. He got his ribs broken. And then he lost. |
11-09-2007, 10:02 PM | #646 |
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I think you would have to credit Hughes MORE for injuring his opponent, not the other way around.
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11-09-2007, 10:07 PM | #647 |
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Yeh. Exactly. Breaking your ribs isn't like an "Oh well he would have on but he got hurt..." Well...Chuck Liddell would have beat Quinton Jackson had he not been punched in the face.
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11-09-2007, 10:24 PM | #648 |
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I give all the credit in the world to Hughes. He pulled it out, and he's a winner. Pure and simple, but if BJ Penn and Matt Hughes fight ten times BJ Penn at least wins 7 probably 8 of them.
There is no way you can convince me that Hughes is that much better then Matt Serra. Still I'm not saying Serra is gonna win, but it's not gonna be a squash match. |
11-11-2007, 11:42 AM | #649 |
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The deciding factor is going to be striking. Serra is very good on the ground and can pull submissions off almost like penn. Hughes is good on the ground too, but hes basically just a ground and pounder and either waits for his opponent to give then theyre back or losen up an arm and lock in an americana or key lock.
serra is too dangerous on the ground for hughes to do that. Plus one of hughes biggest goals in fighting is to win by a knockout and i think that serra has pissed him off enough that hughes will try and go for it. People think that because of the GSP win, that serra's striking is phenominal. Well, maybe it is, but hes only showed it for one match, and most likely it was a fluke than not, and I see hughes thinking the same way. |
11-11-2007, 11:59 AM | #650 |
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I dont think it will be a squash between Hughes and Serra but I definetly thinks its one sided. Hughes is going to be the stronger of the two, and unless Serra lands a clean shot on Hughes on the feet, I dont actually see Hughes being submitted. Last time Hughes was sub'd outside of BJ Penn (which was set up by a beautiful right from over the top) was Dennis Hallman at the beginning of his career. The guy fights very methodical and isnt known for getting caught in subs.
Hughes last fight with BJ he did get caught in a sub, a triangle choke and survived it for 2 minutes. People say that BJ broke his ribs because his camp said that he broke his ribs, and I dont believe it actually. I dont ever remember seeing anything from NSAC saying that Penn was forced to sit out for any period of time because of injury. I can/could be wrong, but I actually just believe that BJ blew his wad trying to stop Hughes with the triangle and gassed because of it. |
11-11-2007, 04:53 PM | #651 |
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The buzzer saved Hughes from a submission loss to GSP in the second fight.
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11-11-2007, 08:18 PM | #652 |
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hughes is gettin old too. He has not performed anywhere near his talent level in the last three fights. Plus he said he was getting burnt out on the ultimate fighter. I can see him getting focused and beating serra but i can also see him losing to serra just as much.
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11-12-2007, 01:48 PM | #653 |
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If he beats Serra, GSP is gonna end his career.
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11-12-2007, 03:02 PM | #654 |
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I could see him being dick enough to retire right after he wins the belt off of serra so he could say he retired champion
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11-12-2007, 06:49 PM | #655 |
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I could too but I doubt it. Too much money in the game now.
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11-14-2007, 02:08 PM | #656 |
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To much Hughes hating going on in this thread.
Anyways, UFC 78 BITCHES! Fisher and Edgar for fight of the night, although I believe Parisyan and Chonan will be flashy as well. Alexander and Silva will be fun to watch, probably going to be a brutal slugfest, or maybe we will get a chance to see Houston's ground game if Silva shoots on him. Main event is fun simply for the fact that I want to see both of these guys get knocked out really bad, and I dont care who it is! |
11-14-2007, 06:43 PM | #657 |
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This ppv intrigues me because they didnt bother to create a main event
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God I hope Rashad knocks the shit out of Bisping.
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11-15-2007, 02:11 AM | #660 | |
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Oh and Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou has signed for the UFC. He fights Lyoto Machida on the December show on the undercard of Serra vs. Hughes and Silva vs. Liddell. |
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11-15-2007, 07:21 PM | #663 |
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Evans vs. Bisping, Battle of the Over-rateds.
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11-17-2007, 05:49 AM | #664 |
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Still watching it though.
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11-17-2007, 11:46 AM | #665 |
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Leaving in 4 hours, fuck yeah
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11-17-2007, 11:22 PM | #666 | |
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I really wanted to see Thiago/Houston and Karo/Ryo. |
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11-17-2007, 11:56 PM | #667 |
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Houston Alexander just lost via TKO in Round 1.
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11-18-2007, 01:09 AM | #668 |
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Watch the show online. Total garbage. Possibly the worst UFC show in the Zuffa era since the first one they controlled (I forget the number).
Houston Alexander has ZERO ground game. Tough luck pal. Made me happy though that his bandwagon got humbled. Too old to learn any new stuff that he can actually get good at and make use of. Undercard fighter at best now. Joe Lauzon looked great. Apparently all the dark fights were really good Karo vs. Ryo was boring as fuck. Many takedowns by Karo and he couldn't pass guard one single time. Rashad Evans beat Michael Bisping by split decision. Going on past fights, I would have agreed with the decision but it only proves that wrestling takedowns should not be scored positively by the judges unless they lead to more aggressive action. If you have seen one Evans fight, you've seen them all. Couple of takedowns then constant cuddles. I was expecting him to try and kiss Bisping at one point. Looks like 185lbs for Bisping though which should be good. Evans will get killed by Rampage if they fight now. Dana White was mega happy with the fight too. Dunno why cos it sucked a cock. |
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And I completely agree that the scoring needs to be reworked, but so does every other hardcore mma fan.
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11-18-2007, 09:25 AM | #673 |
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Holy shit.
UFC 82 - Dan Henderson vs Anderson Silva HOLY SHIT |
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11-18-2007, 09:47 AM | #675 |
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What in the good god fuck were they thinking stopping the Lytle vs Alves fight. That was on its way to being the fight of the year.
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11-18-2007, 10:50 AM | #676 |
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Amazing to see a fight live, recommend it to everyone to do at least once
Yeah like Rob said the undercard fights were all good. JoeLau deserves to be on the main card with that win The Prudential Center is siiiick. Seats a little narrow but awesome arena. |
11-18-2007, 01:55 PM | #677 | |
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Im sure your a big bisbing fan and im not a rashad fan but you have to admit tht the only thing that bisbing did was stand up from takedowns. he was tenetive the entire time and let rashad control the pace of the fight. maybe rashad didnt really BEAT bisbing but bisbing did nothing to win the fight. Last edited by Reavant; 11-18-2007 at 02:06 PM. |
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I've got a question though....who the hell were those refs last night?? Where were guys like Herb Dean, Steve Mazzagatti(sp?) and "big" John McCarthy?
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