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Old 10-06-2008, 07:47 PM   #2641
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Pot.Kettle.Clue.

You constantly come on here and act all high and mighty.. Questioning Reav's pics and whatnot..

You sound like a wannabe know it all, who is def compensating for something..
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Old 10-06-2008, 08:01 PM   #2642
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Who was acting high and mighty? I was just asking if they were just the best shots taken, or if that was the timeline. He doesn't need you sticking up for him. Nobody does. Just fuck off.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:56 PM   #2643
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lol wtf @pics. That makes it even funnier..Kimbo gets ko'd by gay guy.
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:34 AM   #2644
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lol wtf @pics. That makes it even funnier..Kimbo gets ko'd by gay guy.
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Old 10-07-2008, 02:44 AM   #2645
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I'm so glad Kimbo got exposed.
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Old 10-07-2008, 03:01 AM   #2646
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too bad that fight alone might tank elite XC. I know that kimbo is a joke but he was really good for marketing and grabing the casual fan and its going to be hard to promote him now.
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Old 10-07-2008, 04:54 AM   #2647
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If they do tank I'd love to see Robbie Lawler back in the UFC
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:00 AM   #2648
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Elite EX Debacle

October 6, 2008
I’ve got to tell you when I plugged the Elite XC show on CBS in my previous commentary and hinted at surprises, this is not what I meant. I had high hopes for this show, and while it started out great, boy did this show fall off the cliff, for Elite XC.

From my perspective I enjoyed the show. I’m the kind of fan that as long as they put on a couple decent fights, I’m pretty happy, but I would think from all the important business aspects of this show, this has to be considered an EPIC FAILURE.

The biggest disaster has to be the company not being able to produce the Main Event it promised. Ken Shamrock getting a cut over his eye, bad enough to require stitches, the afternoon of this show absolutely killed this show. Kimbo Slice vs. Ken Shamrock was the attraction CBS and Elite XC sold this show on. Despite not being a top-level fighter Kimbo Slice is the face of Elite XC, and their top draw. Kimbo Slice needs to be protected and Ken Shamrock was the perfect opponent for Kimbo in that he is well past his prime and as close to a house hold name as you get in MMA. Kimbo was well protected in this fight in that Ken has not looked good in any of his recent fights, so there was a good chance Kimbo would be able to score an early knockout and look strong in this fight, by beating a UFC Hall of Famer. Elite XC and Kimbo were protected even if Kimbo were to lose because they could attribute the Shamrock victory to his experience and status as a legend in this sport.

When they announced that Kimbo would be fighting Seth Petruzelli I became very nervous for Kimbo Slice and Elite XC. I knew very little about Seth Petruzelli but still figured he stood a good chance of defeating Kimbo Slice. This fight was a no win situation for Kimbo and Elite XC. If Kimbo wins he defeats a guy from the undercard no one (casual fans) has heard of, and if Petruzelli wins Kimbo is exposed and beaten by an undercard guy, and I doubt Petruzelli, based on this one fight, will becomes a Superstar.

What ended up happening was, in my opinion, the worst-case scenario for everyone involved. Kimbo looked and sounded defeated during his preflight promo and at that point I expected Kimbo to loss bad and quickly, which he did in spades. Kimbo looked so depressed and unfocussed during this interview, I’d almost think the dude gave up and took a dive. Kimbo was KO’ed in 14 seconds yet did not appear to take any real devastating shots. Petruzelli did not look like a destructive machine and dropped Kimbo with a rather unimpressive right hand.

To the casual fan Kimbo came off like a bum and Petruzelli came off not a whole lot better. I say this because I watched this show at my in-laws who I think represent the casual fan perspective well. They are not real fans but have seen a couple shows because of me. My father in-law all but laughed at the short fight and I guarantee you does not even remember Seth Petruzelli’s name.

To a slightly more educated fan, like myself, I thought the commentary didn’t help matters any. Mentioning that Seth was a former Ultimate Fighter participant just made him seem like more of a jobber to me. While many of the early Ultimate Fighter winners have gone on to be superstars most current winners go on to be successful midcard guys in UFC so this guy being one of the loser from the show made me think he wasn’t even good enough to compete in UFC, yet just killed Elite XC’s top draw in 14 seconds.

The Main Event wasn’t the only problem. I think the Andrei Arlovski vs. Roy Nelson fight was also a negative to the casual fan. Of the five people watching the show at my in-laws, I was the only one who did not laugh out loud at Roy Nelson and comment on how fat and out of shape he was. Unfortunately the general public has been educated to believe that abs represent strength and toughness and if you don’t look like Sly Stallone or Arnold Schwarzenegger, in their prime, you are out of shape and not a real fighter. Everyone expected this guy to lose quickly and when he lasted as long as he did I think they attributed it to Arlovski not being as good as they thought, rather than Nelson being any good.

I enjoyed the Jake Shields vs. Paul Daley fight enough but watching it I couldn’t help but think I was watching two very one dimensional fighters that would be eliminated early if they competed on TUF, yet this match was for an Elite XC Title. Shields did not appear to have any stand up and Daley looked completely lost on the ground, and in case casual fans didn’t notice this on their own, the announcers kept pointing it out to us.

I don’t think a single star was created in the three main event bouts and Kimbo’s drawing power may have been completely destroyed. Arlovski likely expanded his name value a little bit, getting the KO win on network television, but hardcore fans already know him and to casual fans he’s the guy who KO’ed the big fat guy.

The first two fights on the show were a completely different story. I loved the first fight between Murilo Ninja Rua and Benji Radach. In my opinion Radach came off very strong and I definitely want to see him fight again. Unlike Petruzelli in the Main Event, mentioning Ninja Rua’s UFC past paid off. Ninja competing in UFC gave him credibility, and after showing such an amazing chin in round one, Ninja came off like a real top-level fighter to me. With Radach being so strong and eventually knocking the very tough Rua out cold I was left feeling that he was the best fighter on the show.

The Carrano vs. Kobold fight was also very good and thankfully Elite XC dodged a bullet with a Carrano victory here and a Cyborg victory on the undercard. Carrano vs. Cyborg is likely the biggest fight Elite XC has left to market and had either of these women lost, that fight would have been out the window too.

A very bad night for CBS and Elite XC; it will be very interesting to see where they go from here because things do not look good. I think it’s safe to assume the biggest pop of the night came from Dana White’s house.

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Old 10-07-2008, 09:00 AM   #2649
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:58 AM   #2650
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Who exactly became interested in your opinion all of a sudden?

NFL 2008-2009 Season... 10-07-2008 07:53 AM Ant Well you almost had the yards right
MMA Thread 10-07-2008 03:20 AM Fabien Barthez We all know what you sound like, and it's not slim, and its not cool, and its not intelligent. i dont address you because you are a fucking stupid gobshite, and if you feel the same, maybe follow the same practice. dick

Way to not care, Mr. Billy Badass v 2.0..
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:46 PM   #2651
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:52 PM   #2652
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:54 PM   #2653
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He just acts very uppity and comes across as a shithead 90% of the time..

Irks me, when seemingly everyone eles who uses this thread regularly helps each other out and whatnot..
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:01 PM   #2654
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I think you took what he said the wrong way though but anyway can we at least have one thread here where it's not ruined by personal beefs?
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:02 PM   #2655
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:15 PM   #2657
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lol @ fag pics. Kind of sucks though that this whole thing happened though. If they kept Kimbo's mystique going (even if it was such a farce), they could of had him go like 30-0 and have him come out and send an open challenge to any one of "Dana White's Boys." fuck me if that wouldn't of made for good TV
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I don't like the Kimbo loss one bit.. I realize Elite XC is a joke but, they are the biggest competition in the US to UFC.. Afflictions has the potential but is second rate as I said during their first show.. Dream is in Japan.. UFC needs the comp to keep them putting on great cards.. Kinda like WWF started to suck after they bought WCW cause there was no competition so they could put on weak shows and still know people would tune in..
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He just acts very uppity and comes across as a shithead 90% of the time..

Irks me, when seemingly everyone eles who uses this thread regularly helps each other out and whatnot..

From the guy who posts the personal comment I made to ask him to fuck off and stop talking to me, because he ignored the first one.... and then fucking starts to make MORE pointless comments, not about the thread topic!

I mean, help your fucking self out, I came to talk about MMA, so for the last time you soft prick, wind your stupid neck in and keep this on topic.
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exactly. with these other companies, they are creating thier own stars and it's so easy to build any sort of rivalry/conflict/controversy when you have that. And that's the kind of stuff Americans love to watch.

I mean I can just see Kimbo (if he were still unbeaten) in the ring after a match just ripping apart UFC and Dana White. shit like that would be awesome to watch. At least to me they would.
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:39 PM   #2662
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So anyway. Seth Petruzelli is as dumb as he is a gaylord.

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Seth Petruzelli created quite a stir following his improbable 14-second TKO against Kevin “Kimbo Slice” Ferguson during this past weekend’s Saturday Night Fights on CBS. He also added to the controversy following an interview during an interview on 104.1 FM in Orlando with the Monsters morning show.

When asked by one of the show’s hosts whether he was concerned by Slice’s standup skills and wanted to focus on getting the fight to the ground, Petruzelli indicated that he wanted to keep it standing. However, he also phrased his answer in a way that left many wondering whether EliteXC officials had offered him a bonus to keep the fight standing as opposed to taking it to the ground.

“… I knew I would do alright standing up with him,” Petruzelli said during the radio interview. “The promoters kind of hinted to me, and they gave me the money to stand and trade with him. They didn’t want me to take him down, let’s just put it that way.”

Upon being contacted by FiveOuncesOfPain.com for a followup, Petruzelli indicated that he felt his words during the 104.1 FM interview are being twisted and he categorically denied accusations that EliteXC somehow tried to influence his strategy through financial considerations.

“What was meant to be said was that I wanted to keep the fight standing for myself because I knew that was what the crowd, the promoters, and everyone wanted to see because that’s more exciting than just taking someone to the ground,” Petruzelli said. “That was my thing only. I wanted to keep it exciting so I decided to keep it standing. It had nothing to do with anybody else. That was all me.”

Upon being asked directly whether EliteXC officials had even hinted that he could receive a bonus by keeping the fight standing, Petruzelli clarified that no such act had taken place.

“No,” he responded. “Look, even the UFC gives knockout bonuses. Everyone gives knockout bonuses. There’s knockout bonuses, submission bonuses, all sorts of bonuses. I just wanted to keep it standing because I felt I could beat (Kimbo) at his own game.”

Messages left for EliteXC officials requesting comment for this article were not immediately returned.

What a dick.

They probably did as well....
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exactly. with these other companies, they are creating thier own stars and it's so easy to build any sort of rivalry/conflict/controversy when you have that. And that's the kind of stuff Americans love to watch.

I mean I can just see Kimbo (if he were still unbeaten) in the ring after a match just ripping apart UFC and Dana White. shit like that would be awesome to watch. At least to me they would.
Why would it be good to watch? Dana White is never gonna mention EliteXC on his TV and is never gonna let his fighters go and fight their guys even if they just killed them. And why would EliteXC let Kimbo throw out challenges that will never be answered? It's the boy who cried wolf. Eventually people don't care.

Plus Dana's boys would kill him.
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Why would it be good to watch? Dana White is never gonna mention EliteXC on his TV and is never gonna let his fighters go and fight their guys even if they just killed them. And why would EliteXC let Kimbo throw out challenges that will never be answered? It's the boy who cried wolf. Eventually people don't care.

Plus Dana's boys would kill him.
I hear what you're saying and you're right on all points, but to me it screams marketing potential. Obviously Dana White won't mention them, but let's just say a company like EliteXC kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger to the level of UFC. And let's say that company started calling out UFC at every chance they got and started competing with them on PPV buys.

Obviously EliteXC is dead in the water and Obviously Dana's worst fighter might have beaten Kimbo, but if a company out there can ever rise to the level of UFC, don't you think a "feud" should be created and don't you think these Americans, who feed off of shit like this all the time, would eat up a "feud" between two companies. Cause you know the media would run with it.

Yes, there's 50 billion "what if's," but I would love to see that happen
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According to Kelly Kahl, Senior Executive Vice President of CBS Primetime Television, the network is "very happy" with the ratings from EliteXC "Heat". She said the network plans to go forward with a planned fourth show, as stated in their original contract.

When the early ratings came out, a lot of places predicted doom for EliteXC because they were a little lower than the first show in May. What people failed to understand is the expectations are higher for a show at the end of May because it faces almost no competition. By then all the popular shows are done for the season. It also did not face stiff competition from other sports. EliteXC "Heat" on Saturday night had to deal with new shows on the other channels, playoff Baseball, and College Football. The Baseball and College Football games, particularly would eat into their core audience.

The fact it brought in over 4.3 million viewers is a victory for EliteXC. When the final numbers are released, I will be interested to see how the ratings changed from the first hour to the second. It is quite possible they would have done better than the first broadcast, but the announcement of Ken Shamrock's injury had to drive away a percentage of the audience. All in all, a good showing for an embattled organization.
This is actually good news after that horrid second card and then Shamrock bailing out and Kimbo getting dominated by a relatively unknow TUF fighter..
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I like the fact that Elite XC and affliction are teaming up tho. I just wish that they put more emphasis on big name guys like Andrei/fedor/lil nog/barnet/babalu or the others that were involved in the affliction card. If you can start to build the organizations around those guys, then you can really make some progress and eventually rival the UFC. The thing is, Elite XC is more visable to the casual fans because its free, so they need to be showcasing the big stars and building them up to the masses.

I like what they tried to do with having andrei fight on the free card, the problem is that he fought roy nelson. We all know that roy is a decent fighter but to everyone who never heard of him would have thought andrei would KO him in a second and with watching the fight, that wasnt the case. I really think they need to build up their guys by feeding them cans and getting the public excited and then have them start facing eachother, and that way they dont have to depend on the kimbos and shamrocks out there.
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Completely agree..

I think the Affliction/EXC partnership will do well for both companies.. Give Affliction national primetime ad space, while it gives EXC actual real MMA fighters.. If they continue on CBS, they should show more of their "superstar" guys like Barnett and Babalu while they can fill their under card spot for the PPVs with some of the depth EXC has in the locker room..
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I do have to say that I feel rather bad for Kimbo. They hyped him up to be some sort of invincible freak of nature to the point where it was completely impossible for him to live up to even half of his advertising. They would have been better served to keep him in the undercard for a couple years while he's training day in and day out with Bas Rutten, wait until he's an ACTUAL force to be reckoned with (as opposed to a fictional one) and THEN hype him like he's the reincarnation of George Foreman. They did him no favors at all they way that they went about all this.

Also, kudos to Lance Storm. Couldn't have said it better myself. If they were going to make us believe that he's superman, they should have NEVER EVER put him against a young lower card participant. All of his opponents should be faltering deteriorating legends on the brink of retirement. If Kimbo wins, he trounces a legend. If Kimbo loses, then experience wins the battle.

Also, Question. Was Seth Petruzelli the guy on TUF2 that did all of those insane wheel/cresent kicks that were ridiculous looking?
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Yeah, he was on TUF..
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Yeah, but was he the dude that did those ridiculous looking flying kicks that everyone was talkin about or was that some other guy?
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I don't remember all that but he was def on TUF 2..
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I hear what you're saying and you're right on all points, but to me it screams marketing potential. Obviously Dana White won't mention them, but let's just say a company like EliteXC kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger to the level of UFC. And let's say that company started calling out UFC at every chance they got and started competing with them on PPV buys.

Obviously EliteXC is dead in the water and Obviously Dana's worst fighter might have beaten Kimbo, but if a company out there can ever rise to the level of UFC, don't you think a "feud" should be created and don't you think these Americans, who feed off of shit like this all the time, would eat up a "feud" between two companies. Cause you know the media would run with it.

Yes, there's 50 billion "what if's," but I would love to see that happen
I don't think the media would give a shit in the slightest. No gave a shit really when it was Pride. And when the inter promotional stuff happened in Japan, it went to shit. Same as it would in the States.
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This isn't WWF vs WCW. Dana will never mention Elite or Affliction and everybody knows UFC is king. Personally, I'd rather see a monopoly but I can understand why others wouldnt' want that.
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I hear what you're saying and you're right on all points, but to me it screams marketing potential. Obviously Dana White won't mention them, but let's just say a company like EliteXC kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger to the level of UFC. And let's say that company started calling out UFC at every chance they got and started competing with them on PPV buys.

Obviously EliteXC is dead in the water and Obviously Dana's worst fighter might have beaten Kimbo, but if a company out there can ever rise to the level of UFC, don't you think a "feud" should be created and don't you think these Americans, who feed off of shit like this all the time, would eat up a "feud" between two companies. Cause you know the media would run with it.

Yes, there's 50 billion "what if's," but I would love to see that happen
No company can ever grow unless they sell their shows with ex-UFC fighters, and the vast majority of UFC fighters who are legitimate names won't leave because of the lack of competition elsewhere. So basically, anyone who fights outside UFC who is a drawing name, is automatically percieved as green and competition shy, and in that lose some of the drawing power which they harboured in UFC. It just won't happen. And I don't think it would be a good thing for the sport in general anyway.

All this is Fedor excluded, but after Fedor, there will be no exceptions.

Also, i'm all for a bit of Yank-bashing, just like the next person, but dressing it up as an idea to amuse the 'futile' septics, when it is your idea/90's wrestling mirroring dream which was mostly just to amuse yourself is not exactly that...
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You have no idea what you are talking about..

DREAM is prettty huge right now and the only fighter I can think of that is a former UFC fighter is Cro Cop, but that destroys your theory also because he was a star in Japan way before he signed with Zuffa..
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They have really good fighters and put on really good shows.. I think the problem lies that they aren't near as huge as Pride was, so selling out 100k seat arenas is difficult to say the least..
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They have really good fighters and put on really good shows.. I think the problem lies that they aren't near as huge as Pride was, so selling out 100k seat arenas is difficult to say the least..
Oh I know they have good fighters/fights but what I meant was the public perception of them so far isn't looking good...at least from what I heard. I've even heard rumours that if their next show doesn't sit to well it could be all over for the "Dream"

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With a 59 percent increase in ratings from its July installment of "Saturday Night Fights," EliteXC and CBS scored an overall 2.7 rating and drew 4.56 million viewers for this past weekend's "EliteXC: Heat" event.

The Oct. 4 broadcast was the day's No. 1 rated sports and entertainment event on both broadcast and cable in the key demographics of adults 18-34, men 18-34 and men 18-49.

EliteXC today released the ratings, which were provided by Nielsen live plus same day ratings.

In those key demographics, "Saturday Night Fights" topped MLB playoff games, a series of NCAA football games, and a replay of UFC 86 that aired on Spike TV.

As MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) reported earlier this week, ratings for "EliteXC: Heat" were up sharply from the second EliteXC-CBS broadcast in July. "Unfinished Business," which took place in Stockton, Calif., flopped with just 2.6 million viewers.

Instead, with EliteXC stars Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson and Gina Carano back in action, this past weekend's event came close to matching the record-breaking "Saturday Night Fights" debut in May. "EliteXC: Primetime," which took place in Newark, N.J., drew 4.85 million viewers to make it the highest-rated event in U.S. MMA history.

Ferguson and Carano were featured prominently in that first event, much like they were this past weekend. Although Ferguson suffered a humiliating 14-second TKO loss to late replacement Seth Petruzelli in the night's main event, Carano again dazzled with a victory over Kelly Kobold. The event also featured victories for EliteXC welterweight champ Jake Shields, Andrei Arlovski (in a featured Affliction bout) and Benji Radach.

Initial ratings for "EliteXC: Heat" pegged the number of viewers at 4.3 million viewers. However, the ratings for the final 20 minutes of the broadcast (which included the Ferguson-Petruzelli fight) were not available at that time.

Earlier this year, CBS and EliteXC entered into an agreement to air four live MMA events as part of a "Saturday Night Fights" series. "EliteXC: Heat" was the third event, and the fourth is slated to air in the first quarter of 2009
Even with all this, EXC is doing better, it seems..

I blame Gina "Hottttt Assssss" Carano..
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