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Old 05-08-2014, 10:44 PM   #361
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Browns do what the Browns do best. So will he be cut or traded within 2 years?
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Manziel didn't look that happy with the Browns pick
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Old 05-08-2014, 10:46 PM   #363
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Manziel didn't look that happy with the Browns pick
Is anyone ever happy when they're drafted by the Browns?
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Old 05-08-2014, 10:48 PM   #364
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Everybody stop saying bad things about the Cleveland Browns.
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Everybody stop saying bad things about the Cleveland Browns.
But they do it to themselves! Manziel will be their 21st different starting QB since 99.
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Old 05-08-2014, 10:57 PM   #368
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I dont get the Ravens drafting Mosley but he could be a solid LB for a while so I wont complain.

I was hoping Manziel would go anywhere besides Cleveland just because I think he's a better QB than the 'experts' give him credit for going to Cleveland almost guarantees nothing good will happen for him, at least initially.
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:02 PM   #369
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Derek Carr is literally crying in his living room.
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:07 PM   #370
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Derek Carr is literally crying in his living room.
Bridgewater must be on suicide watch then.
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:14 PM   #371
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I'm not kidding. They showed Derek Carr in his living room and he was crying.
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CARDINALS. BRIDGEWATER. NOW. PLZ.
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:17 PM   #373
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The Cardinals draft party looks displeased.
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:19 PM   #374
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Safety. That's good. They needed someone to replace Adrian Wilson on the strong side.
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:20 PM   #375
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I think they wanted Pryor and when the Jets took him, they traded out knowing Bucannon would definitely be there at 27.
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Barring a couple of late trades it looks like Houston will still have their pick of Carr or Bridgewater to kick off tomorrow.
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:31 PM   #378
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Liked the Pats not trading out and taking a DE/DT but worried about the whole ACL issue with Dominique Easley.

Belichick really loves Florida when it comes to the draft for some reason.
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Seems there are still a lot of good DTs on the board. Giants seem to take a second round DT every year so I wouldn't be surprised if they take one of the DTs tomorrow....but I do think they need to get an OL. As it is now they've got Schwartz, Pugh, and 3 guys coming off of major injuries. Hopefully not taking Zack Martin won't come back to bite them.


Odell Beckham is still very intriguing, though. The Giants did need receiver help certainly. The biggest knock I see on Beckham is his height (5'11"). Rueben Randle is their tallest wideout at 6'2". Cruz and Manningham are both 6'0". I do miss the days of just being able to heave it up to Plaxico Burress who towered over all the CBs. Of course Ramses Barden was 6'6" and accomplished absolutely nothing so it might not be a big deal.
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Shit the Pats might be trading Ryan Mallet to the Texans. Hope they don't.
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Oh god, so relieved Cowboys didn't take Manziel. I like the Martin pick, solid guard or tackle. Now we have 3 good young starters on the O-line.

A lot of defensive line players still left..hopefully we get Kony Ealy, Crighton, Lawrence, or Nix.
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Browns do what the Browns do best. So will he be cut or traded within 2 years?
Don't be silly.

There will be a minor injury first... because the Browns keep going for the big name, "great white hope" potential franchise QB that will put asses in seats and sell jerseys instead of building a line to protect that guy or aquiring some targets for him to throw to. Year one is him not living up to the hype through little fault of his own.

Then, there'll be the season ending injury that dashes their possible playoff season hopes in around week 4 of the second year.

Next comes the inevitable QB controversy, where the backup limps them along to a .500 season in Johnny Football's absence and they start to think the unknown backup might be the better starter.

So, 3 years, not 2. Then rinse and repeat in that year's draft when they pick yet another quarterback.

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Okay... at least they're not the "Youngstown Browns". That's gotta count for something, right?
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Heh. Vikings grab Teddy Bridgewater with the last pick.

I guess Ponder is being shown the door. Or perhaps the bench.

Denver grabbing Bradley Roby to work the other side with Talib is a good pickup. Now we need a Wide Reciever to replace Decker.
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Texans getting Clowney is no surprise

Browns getting Manziel at 22 is a steal, btw who's justin Gilbert?

Bortles got drafted earlier than i thought

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Old 05-09-2014, 08:04 AM   #390
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Don't be silly.

There will be a minor injury first... because the Browns keep going for the big name, "great white hope" potential franchise QB that will put asses in seats and sell jerseys instead of building a line to protect that guy or aquiring some targets for him to throw to. Year one is him not living up to the hype through little fault of his own.
Except the Cleveland Browns O Line grades out VERY well in Pro Footbal Focus' rankings. I can't tell you about their guards, but I know Joe Thomas, Alex Mack, and Mitchell Schwartz (L, C, R) all grade out as comfortably above average players.

and Josh Gordon and Jordan Cameron, man.
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I think the Browns will take their time with Manziel and have Hoyer start. He did win them 3 of the 4 games they won last year.....
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"Okay... at least they're not the "Youngstown Browns". That's gotta count for something, right?"

Watch what you say about Youngstown, my friend ELPRESADOR is from there and he don't take to kind to Savage Folk
I can say whatever I want about my shitty ass hometown. If whoever ELPRESADOR is has a problem with that, he can meet me out on the Sharonline to exchange some friendly gunfire.

But he won't. Because if he's from here, he already knows what it is. Hell, chances are we're somehow cousins by a marriage or two.
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Love this pick for them. Kid is a baller and takes over sproles role. Going to put up good numbers.
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Love this pick for them. Kid is a baller and takes over sproles role. Going to put up good numbers.
I was really leaning towards a CB but Sproles and Moore will leave a huge hole in our offense. I think this kid will shine with Brees.
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Except the Cleveland Browns O Line grades out VERY well in Pro Footbal Focus' rankings. I can't tell you about their guards, but I know Joe Thomas, Alex Mack, and Mitchell Schwartz (L, C, R) all grade out as comfortably above average players.

and Josh Gordon and Jordan Cameron, man.
Projections aren't the same as performance. While they do have a habit of picking up *ok* players, they usually end up playing together merely as a mediocre team. For comparison, think about the basketball team the Houston Rockets tried to field around 98ish... they picked up a bunch of star calibur, known players and they didn't exactly set the world on fire a cohesive unit. Cleveland just had how many Pro Bowl selections? And yet they can't win games that have meaning.

And I was speaking more on the penchant of the organization trying to always solve their woes by throwing a "hot new" quarterback at it. They've done that since day one back in '99, where they went on record as stating that intention with Tim Couch. They don't cultivate any sort of depth in running game, receivers, or an O line, and throw all their chips in on QBs and coaches, and change them like underwear, instead of sticking with a guy, saying "this is our guy" and sticking to it to find players who get cohesive chemistry. They tend to trade away standouts in skill positions and wear down quarterbacks with danger and doubt.
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