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Old 06-16-2016, 02:26 AM   #281
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You wouldn't have to watch all 9 hours though. Choose a brand and follow it, if you sour on that brand switch to the other. If they do it right and create two totally different shows it could be pretty good.
If they do it right, you'd never sour on either brand, which would amount to 9 hours.
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Old 06-16-2016, 09:34 AM   #282
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Old 06-16-2016, 11:55 AM   #283
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I wonder if they will have one edgier ahow and one show (cena's) more kid friendly? I think they could reach out to very different demographics that way and it woukd differentiate the products. My fear is both shows will be exactly the same with more filler talent.
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Apparently the WWE have reached out to older talent to make a comeback. Helloooooooo ladies!
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Old 06-18-2016, 07:56 PM   #285
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Old 06-18-2016, 08:38 PM   #286
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Over-exposure is kind of a problem already though. I's prefer one PPV every other month for each brand. Forces them to try to stretch out feuds instead of running through everything in a couple months like they did with Cena-Owens. The fewer PPVs there are, the more special each episode of Raw/Smackdown become.

This x1000000000000000000000 on the Cena/Owens bit alone. Those two could have had soooooooooo much more, elevating Owens higher than he is already and really cementing him as a solid, top tier heel. But no, lolcenawins.
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Pulled a Jericho and signed a short-term TPWW contract in order to come back and participate in Tipsters. Figured I'd drop in here because I've been calling for the split to come back for a really long time.

I'm stoked for it, I can't lie. I've soured on the WWE product more and more for the past year or so but I always felt like a proper split would allow them to give more guys exposure and create two shows with unique identities. I'm intrigued by the idea of it and I will probably tune in when the split kicks off to see if it can reinvigorate my interest in the company.

The skeptic inside of me says that the split is merely going to be a device to get Roman Reigns and John Cena apart from each other so that they have an excuse to hold off until WrestleMania next year to have them wrestle.
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Old 06-19-2016, 12:33 PM   #290
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Apparently the WWE have reached out to older talent to make a comeback. Helloooooooo ladies!
According to Forbes, WWE have reached out to:

Carlito
Goldberg
Jeff Hardy
John Morrison
JTG
Kurt Angle
Rey Mysterio
Shad Gaspard
Shelton Benjamin

Carlito makes a lot of sense to come back because he badly needs to teach his relatives how to have a personality.

Goldberg would be a shocker if he returned. Yes he's working with 2k on the next video game but it's tough to imagine that he'll want to return full-time at nearly 50. If he does come back it's to put over Reigns at one PPV and then go into the HOF next year.

Jeff Hardy has said publicly that he'd like one last WWE run before he retires, and he'd fit the bill of being a guy that is genuinely really over to help boost interest in one of the shows. If he can get out of his TNA deal WWE would definitely take him back.

John Morrison makes sense for the company to bring back but selfishly I actually hope he doesn't agree to return. I absolutely love what he's done on Lucha Underground.

Cryme Tyme having a third run with the company would be a mild surprise given the comments some of them have made after leaving. But with two brands and possibly two different tag divisions I get why they'd need another established team to flesh it out.

Kurt Angle getting one last WWE run has been something most of us have wanted but with him I'm almost uncomfortable watching him wrestle anymore because I feel like he can shatter into a million pieces at a moment's notice. By all means though they should bring him back in some capacity because he would be great in whatever they use him for.

Rey Mysterio - meh. The guy's knees are unfortunately held together by bubble gum at this point. Like Jeff Hardy it makes sense to bring him back for name value but I'd have little faith in him staying healthy. He could put over Kalisto eventually.

Shelton Benjamin is amazing in the ring still so I'd happily welcome him back even though I've been enjoying his work in Japan. Charlie Haas is retired I think but a one-off World's Greatest Tag Team vs. American Alpha match would be fantastic.
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Old 06-19-2016, 12:43 PM   #291
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Is Charlie Haas retired? I remember him going on some sort of weird real life rampage and then retiring, but then I think he came back shortly afterwards. Did he retire again?
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Old 06-19-2016, 12:51 PM   #293
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Old 06-19-2016, 01:49 PM   #294
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Is Charlie Haas retired? I remember him going on some sort of weird real life rampage and then retiring, but then I think he made back shortly afterwards. Did he retire again?
Working the NWA and is currently the NWA Texoma Heavyweight Champion as well as the IWHE Triple Crown Champion. He's in a stable called Outlaw Inc. with Houston Carson, Raymond Rowe, Andy Dalton, Barrett Brown, and Black Bart.

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Charlie Haas is such a man.

Rey Mysterio coming back would not surprise me at all. They need a big Hispanic star now that they've basically shat themselves on ADR and Kalisto. I imagine Rey would want the company to bring in Ricochet, and I'm sure that he already has their attention. But in the immediate picture, Rey teaming with The Lucha Dragons to join The New Day and The Shining Stars (including Carlito) in a feud would be pretty cool.

Carlito has fought the company on money before. Just pay the guy a reasonable amount because he's one of the few Hispanic guys that has actually managed to get somewhat over. It's not that Epico and Primo don't have personalities -- the company has no clue what to do with Hispanic guys.

John Morrison coming back would be pretty awesome. He looks like a million bucks. They can put him in some movies too. I'd love to see him work with Cesaro. He'll probably either team with or feud with The Miz.

Jeff Hardy coming back is good just from a merchandise standpoint. I doubt he'd be full-time.

Goldberg has got more value than people think. I imagine he'll work a few PPVs and live events when he gets back into the thick of things. They have a template as to what to do with guys like him now.

Shelton Benjamin and MVP would each be a fine signing. I'd rather see them back than Cryme Tyme. I liked both guys in Cryme Tyme, but I feel that the window for them is gone.
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The building would explode if Kurt Angle's name was called in the draft with his music plsying. My lord I hope that happens.
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Cesaro vs. Angle is the dream match. Either that or them as a goofy team.
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Looks like the draft is gonna happen on the first live Smackdown on 7/19
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They should allow all the champions to pick their own show at the end of the draft. If they decide to have 2 world heavyweight titles that means the other show has to create their own and find a champion while the other show gets and extra superstar. If they go with only 1 title then after the champion loses he is defaulted to the show he picked. Same goes for the tag and women's titles.

US and IC would pick opposite from each other.
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Wish they would drop the gimmick ppv like Hell in a Cell and TLC. Looks like the just changed Night of Champions to Clash of Champions, thought for sure they would be rival PPVs for the two brands.
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Also Roadblock at the end of the year seems weird, would make sense to just have it as Raw show for February while Smackdown has Fast lane.
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Also Roadblock at the end of the year seems weird, would make sense to just have it as Raw show for February while Smackdown has Fast lane.
Yeah, if that's legit then that gets renamed I figure. Backlash after Summerslam at least makes sense.
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Backlash coming back is a good thing, but it feels odd at that point in the year. I'd rather see it in April. Roadblock and No Way Out should be the February PPVs. No Mercy coming back is a good thing. Wish they'd get rid of Hell in a Cell, TLC, Night of Champions and Extreme Rules. Armageddon and Starrcade can be the December PPVs. Vengeance can return to be opposite Backlash in April/May. Payback can be stay in there. You can bring back Over the Limit or something. July can have The Great American Bash or Bash at the Beach and Battleground.

January: Royal Rumble
February: Roadblock, No Way Out
March/April: WrestleMania
April: Backlash, Payback
May: Vengeance, Over the Limit
June: Money in the Bank
July: Bash at the Beach, Battleground
August: SummerSlam
September: Unforgiven, Fall Brawl
October: No Mercy, Halloween Havoc (if they can get the license)
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According to current ticket advertising for early Smackdown shows after the Draft, WWE might be considering Cena for RAW and Reigns for Smackdown in terms of where the top stars are going.

Same advertising hinted at Ambrose and Rollins being on Smackdown. As well as AJ Styles being on that brand.

Also F4W is hinting at the ppv sheet recently leaked being legit since his sources had been hinting at Night of Champions being replaced with the former WCW ppv name of Clash of Champions.
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I'd like to see the PPVs for the two shows have similar themes. Like Fastlane and Roadblock and Payback and Backlash being together. Would also like to see Bragging Rights return as a stand alone event at the end of the year with all three brands coming together before the new year starts. Would also like to see King of the Ring return and be the same month as Money in the Bank, would have them alternate every year so Raw gets KotR one year and MitB the next.

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May: Vengeance, Judgement Day
June: Money in the Bank, King of the Ring (alternate every year)
July: Bash at the Beach, Great American Bash
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I've got a feeling that MVP will be returning in this brand split era. Not just because of the rumors, but he has spoken to Triple H lately and Alex Greenfield said something on one of the Writer's Room podcasts recently, where he mentioned he knew of other people coming back. He could have just meant guys coming off injury, but when you couple that with what Court Bauer said about half of those names being right in regards to the list (eliminating John Morrison and Rey Mysterio as possibilities), it does leave MVP as a very likely candidate.

I think Carlito will make a return too. It'd make sense to have him lead his cousins as foils against The New Day. Going through names in my head of free agents that I'm surprised the WWE hasn't signed back -- Daivari and Chris Masters are at the top of that list. Daivari got that good press for foiling that burglary on a train or something, and Masters saved his mother from a burning house with a tree.

Victoria has a good relationship with the WWE to this day, and is still insanely hot and quite active. I could see her making a comeback. As a bit of a nostalgia act, I can see them giving a run to Scotty 2 Hotty too. He might finally get that heel turn that Kane Knight always wanted.
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The Usos and Scotty 2 Hotty as a three man unit against The Colons and The New Day?
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Maybe it's finally time for the much anticipated return of Johnny fucking Jeter?
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Oh, and the WWE are pretty stupid if they haven't at least tried to call Matt Morgan. I also think that Cliff Compton has enough ins with the company to at least get a look if he's available, but he might be under GFW contract or something, if that's still going.
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WWE debunking rumors of them considering signing Kurt Angle to a deal for the new Brand Split era. Still not interested in signing him to a deal that would include him being an active competitor.

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Unfortunately for those fans, that will be an unrealized dream as WWE officials confirmed Thursday that Angle is not returning to the company.

The story started when Angle was on Mark Madden's Pittsburgh radio show on Monday and said that Paul Levesque had called him, but that no deal was in place. Although nobody officially said it, the story grew to a point where people said that a deal was done with a start date even listed.
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Kurt just can't help himself.
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I was in a cynical mood earlier, so I worked out who you could really cut from the WWE roster today. Not because they suck or anything, but just because you're not using them to their maximum potential and you don't really have any plans to. Some guys can become agents or move into the Hall of Fame. Some you'd hope would go to the independent scene and strengthen that and get a lot better so you can bring them back when they have some momentum.

I combined this with the talent list in NXT that I thought was ready to get a call up, didn't count part-timers and came up with a main roster of:

Male Roster:

* Adrian Neville
* AJ Styles
* Austin Aries
* Big Cass
* Big E. Langston
* Bobby Roode
* Bray Wyatt
* Cesaro
* Chad Gable
* Dash Wilder
* Dean Ambrose
* Enzo Amore
* Finn Balor
* Jason Jordan
* Jey Uso
* Jimmy Uso
* John Cena
* Kalisto
* Karl Anderson
* Kevin Owens
* Kofi Kingston
* Luke Gallows
* Luke Harper
* The Miz
* Randy Orton
* Roman Reigns
* Rusev
* Sami Zayn
* Samoa Joe
* Scott Dawson
* Seth Rollins
* Shinsuke Nakamura
* Triple H
* Tye Dillinger
* Tyler Breeze
* Xavier Woods

Female Roster:

* Asuka
* Bayley
* Becky Lynch
* Charlotte
* Emma
* Lana
* Maryse
* Naomi
* Natalya
* Paige
* Sasha Banks
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My point is that you can probably cut the main roster in half without the product really being effected. You can call up some guys from NXT that are ready to start making money for the company, and replace them in NXT with a bunch of new faces that can help the younger guys learn and attract people when they're touring.
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I want Kurt Fucking Angle.
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