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I would like to confirm that on second viewing I like Justice League about 35% better than initial viewing. While Flash was too tryhard and the tonal shift was still more alarming than I would have done at worst I can call it an okay MCU movie. Which is still fine.
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09-22-2018, 08:52 PM | #1403 |
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09-22-2018, 09:04 PM | #1404 |
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Im not confusing anything, I undrstand your point but I feel one's feelings has alot to do with being an outcast. What was shown of her externally I interpreted as her internal feelings.
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09-22-2018, 09:08 PM | #1405 |
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I'm just amazed people can't see the similarities in these two movies and the one that thing everyone is hung up on is me calling her an outcast. If you can't see how being the only child on an island full of adults would make you feel like an outcast I don't know what would.
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09-22-2018, 09:08 PM | #1406 |
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This is how I'm going to die. I was hoping I'd get shot by a jealous husband but no it's going to be incredulity that stops my heart.
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Being cast out, probably. A good prolonged bout of shunning would also do the trick. |
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09-22-2018, 09:13 PM | #1408 |
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Raising me up inside their adult society and taking me under their wing would make me feel all lovely and accepted.
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09-22-2018, 09:15 PM | #1409 |
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09-22-2018, 09:20 PM | #1410 | |
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Not sure what you mean there but I'm not one the shun anything. |
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09-22-2018, 09:21 PM | #1411 |
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There are so many words you could have used too.
Now we're stuck here like this forever, you trying to fit a square peg in a round hole and me rewording the same fact over and over again until someone gives up or dies. |
09-22-2018, 09:23 PM | #1412 |
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Funny no one has given another word I could have used though. Credit to you though with the black sheep tjing but I feel that is pretty similar to being an outcast anyway.
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09-22-2018, 09:23 PM | #1413 |
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Some words do have more than one use. "Outcast" is not one of them.
Have you looked it up yet? There are numbers next to the definitions in most dictionaries for each differing use of a word. I'll wait here while you go count how many uses "outcast" has in there. |
09-22-2018, 09:24 PM | #1414 |
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09-22-2018, 09:30 PM | #1415 | |
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I don't own a dictionary but after googling outcast, once I got past a band named Outcast it says:
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09-22-2018, 10:03 PM | #1416 |
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Where did you get that from? I think that's a very misleading definition and the word "outcast" isn't used that way anywhere that I know of.
In fact looking at every major dictionary of worth(Oxford, Cambridge, Collins, Merriam Webster, Dictionary.com...) I can't find any back up to the assertion that the definition becomes purely figurative in "common English speech". |
09-22-2018, 10:05 PM | #1417 |
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Look at the synonyms. Pariah, exile, outlaw
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09-22-2018, 10:07 PM | #1418 |
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09-22-2018, 10:34 PM | #1419 |
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09-22-2018, 10:35 PM | #1420 |
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Eskimos only have one word for snow too.
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09-22-2018, 10:39 PM | #1421 |
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Perhaps you could argue that Diana's mother made her feel like an Outcast at times being so protective of her but every one else spoiled her to the point of defying their own queen because they loved the child so much
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09-22-2018, 10:40 PM | #1422 | |
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09-22-2018, 10:42 PM | #1423 |
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That's what I've been saying, same as Clark's parents did with him.
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09-22-2018, 10:47 PM | #1424 |
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She was such an outcast people commited treason for her
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09-22-2018, 11:09 PM | #1428 |
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So if she wasn't lonely and she was accepted by her society how in any way could she be considered an outcast? Your best shot at this was for somebody to notice that "outcast" is erroneously listed as a potential synonym of "lonely" in some dictionaries/thesaurus'. I find it questionable at best but I'd have given it to you. Now you're back to saying she isn't lonely, just feels like she doesn't fit in and therefore feels "outcast". That is misuse of the word. Anyone using the word "outcast" to describe their feelings in a society that accepts them is a melodramatic teenager. She's Wonder Woman dawg, not the ghost girl from 13 Reasons. I wonder if people got this confused the first time someone said "bad" to mean something really cool or great. I doubt it but then it obviously predates internet forums. |
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I never said or intended to imply that she was lonely. Being the only child makes her feel ostracized by her society whether they spoil her or not and therefore she's an outcast.
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09-22-2018, 11:26 PM | #1430 |
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Here you go rejected, on the outside doing her own thing, and being told she's not ready to be a warrior on an island full of them. She's an outcast if I ever seen one.
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09-22-2018, 11:54 PM | #1431 |
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So when you were too young to go to the pub or join the army or vote you considered yourself an outcast?
The only thing you're relating the term to is the notion that she is socially isolated in some way due to her age. She wasn't banned from participating in everything. Feeling left out doesn't make you an outcast. Feeling outcast doesn't make you an outcast. I struggle to see "outcast" as anything more than exaggeration in this situation. I'm not a little girl in the DC universe though so what do I know. Little girls are known for their overreactions so perhaps Wonder Tot really did feel pushed aside just because they wouldn't let her train. |
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They should have made the whole movie about this by the way. Two hours of a woman who feels like she's something she's not and whether that now means she is... because of politics and things.
Caitlyn Jenner could have been in it. |
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You keep using that word...i dont think it means what you think it means |
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09-23-2018, 01:17 AM | #1434 |
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You can "feel" that a forklift is a 7 foot bipedal lizard in a funny hat. You'd still be wrong.
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Simple Fan is being taken to task yet he still persists. He's committed of nothing else.
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Simple Fan's opinions making him an outcast.
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09-23-2018, 02:11 AM | #1437 |
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I've been an outcast on the forum since I started. I openly admit to being a redneck and have way different opinions on most things, this is nothing new.
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I've gotten one person to at least see a fraction of outcast in Wonder Woman so I'll take that as a win. I'm not coming off my opinion though because she clearly showed some aspects of being an outcast.
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