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Old 06-27-2013, 11:53 PM   #45921
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Pretty fuckin' awesome pic for the MITB match
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Old 06-28-2013, 02:40 AM   #45922
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That is pretty awesome. Not a complaint, but I kind of feel like the Money in the Bank matches are a little lop-sided though. I think they will turn out fine and are perfectly interesting, but I think some of the guys in the WWE Championship match should be going for the World Heavyweight Title.

Sheamus, for example, won the Royal Rumble last year and chose to challenge Daniel Bryan. He's made the World Title a career goal, having already been a two-time WWE Champion. He lost the title to Big Show last year, but shouldn't he want it back? The same goes for Christian, who is a former two-time World Heavyweight Champion and wants "one more match." Wouldn't that "one more match" be for the WHT?

Jack Swagger and The Miz would also be natural picks for the World Title MITB. Swagger was chasing the title until he hurt his hand and is a former MITB Winner. The Miz often brings up on Main Event's commentary that the only title he hasn't won is the World Heavyweight Title, so he'd like to win that championship. Boom, they go into that match alongside Sheamus and Christian. Zeb Colter might want to spread his clients across each match, to ideally make it possible for him "save" each major championship. Antonio Cesaro would thus be entered into the WWE Championship Money in the Bank Ladder Match. Dean Ambrose, while he's never made it apparent that he wants to challenge for any specific World Title, has existing issues with Kane, Daniel Bryan and Randy Orton. He'd make a perfect heel foil for that match. Since I've put The Miz into the World Title Money in the Bank, that leaves Curtis Axel without a clear Money in the Bank opponent, but as a secondary champion he could be entered into the WWE Championship Money in the Bank Ladder Match, and he could talk about how he's about to win the title his father never could.

WWE Championship Money in the Bank Ladder Match
Antonio Cesaro vs. CM Punk vs. Curtis Axel vs. Daniel Bryan vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Kane vs. Randy Orton vs. Rob Van Dam

World Heavyweight Championship Money in the Bank Ladder Match
Christian vs. Cody Rhodes vs. Damien Sandow vs. Fandango vs. Jack Swagger vs. The Miz vs. Sheamus vs. Wade Barrett

The matches then look a bit more balanced, with former World Champions and at least two former winners in each match. It makes the World Title look almost as desirable as the WWE Title (which I guess just isn't the WWE's goal anymore) and it at least makes booking television over the next few weeks a fair bit easier, as you can have Christian, Sheamus and The Miz mixing it up with the heels scheduled for the World Title MITB. John Cena vs. Mark Henry, Del Rio vs. Ziggler, Jericho vs. Ryback, AJ Lee vs. Kaitlyn with Natalya as Special Guest Referee and The Shield vs. The Usos would comprise the rest of the card. That's seven matches, and while not many of them need too much time, you could always give The Usos a great showing against The Shield by having them go for quite a while and allowing Del Rio and Ziggler to wrestle for longer than people would expect them to.
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Old 06-28-2013, 05:17 AM   #45923
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The Smackdown mitb match looks awful in terms of star power. It'd be a fine match, sure, but none of those guys should be anywhere near the world title right now. Barrett's probably the closest but hasn't he pretty much been booked very much like a mid carder for the past two years or whatever?
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Old 06-28-2013, 05:20 AM   #45924
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Having said that, the world heavyweight title is a midcard title anyway, so I guess they fit right in. It's more that they try and recognise them as world champions that's the problem.
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I prefer it how it is. It's no secret that the WHC isn't the main prize and they had a similar theme going with the two matches last year. Putting Curtis Axel in there for the top belt would be fucking awful, worse than when Heath Slater and Justin Gabriel were in the WHC Money in the Bank for no reason a few years back. Anybody could win either match here without coming across like a complete Jack Swagger (including Jack Swagger himself).
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Old 06-28-2013, 05:33 AM   #45926
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:29 AM   #45927
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Falling off ladders is probably the best way to use Heath Slater to be fair.
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:31 AM   #45928
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Noid, you included both mid card champs in your WHC MitB match. I don't think that's right, everyone wants them to mean something so they ought to be defended and not used as props to give another match some sort of "legitimacy." Perhaps there just aren't enough capable/over guys to do 2 MitB matches this year and that's ok. The Slater/Gabriel/Sin Cara year was rough, no need to relive it.
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Old 06-28-2013, 04:25 PM   #45929
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Some recent dirtsheet stuff

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Old 06-28-2013, 06:24 PM   #45930
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Jimmy Hart @ 1:42, sounds like the WCW theme was already in the works.
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Old 06-28-2013, 06:37 PM   #45931
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Old 06-28-2013, 06:48 PM   #45932
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:02 PM   #45933
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Was Bobby Heenan the only guy to do commentary on both Raw and Nitro?
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:02 PM   #45934
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:04 PM   #45935
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:06 PM   #45936
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Eric Bischoff had to have done guest commentary at least once on RAW. Maybe.
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:28 PM   #45938
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Commentators Dates
Eric Bischoff, Bobby Heenan and Steve McMichael September 4, 1995 - May 13, 1996 (1st hour)
Eric Bischoff, Bobby Heenan and Tony Schiavone August 25, 1997 (2nd hour)
Tony Schiavone and Larry Zbyszko* May 27, 1996 – July 29, 1996 (1st hour)
August 5, 1996 – April 21, 1997 (1st hour)
Tony Schiavone, Bobby Heenan and Larry Zbyszko April 28, 1997 - May 19, 1997 (1st hour)
Eric Bischoff and Bobby Heenan* May 20, 1996 – June 10, 1996 (1st hour/2nd hour)
July 1, 1996 - July 22, 1996 (2nd hour)
August 5, 1996 – August 26, 1996 (2nd hour)
Tony Schiavone, Larry Zbyszko and Eric Bischoff July 29, 1996 (2nd hour)
Eric Bischoff, Bobby Heenan and Mike Tenay* September 2, 1996 – October 28, 1996 (2nd hour)
November 11, 1996 - November 18, 1996 (2nd hour)
Tony Schiavone, Mike Tenay and Larry Zbyszko* May 26, 1997 – July 28, 1997 (1st hour)
August 11, 1997 - March 29, 1999 (1st hour/1st-2nd hour)
Tony Schiavone, Bobby Heenan and Mike Tenay** November 4, 1996 (2nd hour)
November 25, 1996 – March 29, 1999 (2nd hour/3rd hour)
August 4, 1997 (2nd hour-3rd hour)
December 20, 1999 – January 24, 2000 (1st/2nd hour-3rd hour)
Tony Schiavone and Bobby Heenan June 17, 1996 – June 24, 1996 (2nd hour)
April 5, 1999 – July 12, 1999 (1st-3rd hour)
August 9, 1999 – December 13, 1999 (1st-3rd hour)
Scott Hudson and Bobby Heenan July 19, 1999 – August 2, 1999 (1st-3rd hour)
Tony Schiavone, Mike Tenay and Mark Madden January 31, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
Tony Schiavone and Mark Madden February 7, 2000 – March 27, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
August 28, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
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July 24, 2000 – August 21, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
September 18, 2000 – October 2, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
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December 18, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
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I'm not really sure why Jack Swagger didn't qualify for the RAW All-Star Money in the Bank Ladder Match, since he's won one before. I actually wouldn't mind it if they just swapped him over in a conversation between Zeb Colter and Vickie Guerrero or something. That would leave one more spot open for the World Title one. How about you have Curtis Axel vs. The Miz for the IC Title with the winner earning a spot in it. The Miz wins and gives them one face to cheer for in there (although I think the Philly crowd will probably be going for Ambrose and Barrett).
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I'm not really sure why Jack Swagger didn't qualify for the RAW All-Star Money in the Bank Ladder Match, since he's won one before. I actually wouldn't mind it if they just swapped him over in a conversation between Zeb Colter and Vickie Guerrero or something. That would leave one more spot open for the World Title one. How about you have Curtis Axel vs. The Miz for the IC Title with the winner earning a spot in it. The Miz wins and gives them one face to cheer for in there (although I think the Philly crowd will probably be going for Ambrose and Barrett).
Cause he's had his day in court and was guilty. Cesaro has replaced him as the We the People Guy. I think he might be fired soon.
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Whats this new IWC-character debut about?
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Commentary teams

Commentators Dates
Eric Bischoff, Bobby Heenan and Steve McMichael September 4, 1995 - May 13, 1996 (1st hour)
Eric Bischoff, Bobby Heenan and Tony Schiavone August 25, 1997 (2nd hour)
Tony Schiavone and Larry Zbyszko* May 27, 1996 – July 29, 1996 (1st hour)
August 5, 1996 – April 21, 1997 (1st hour)
Tony Schiavone, Bobby Heenan and Larry Zbyszko April 28, 1997 - May 19, 1997 (1st hour)
Eric Bischoff and Bobby Heenan* May 20, 1996 – June 10, 1996 (1st hour/2nd hour)
July 1, 1996 - July 22, 1996 (2nd hour)
August 5, 1996 – August 26, 1996 (2nd hour)
Tony Schiavone, Larry Zbyszko and Eric Bischoff July 29, 1996 (2nd hour)
Eric Bischoff, Bobby Heenan and Mike Tenay* September 2, 1996 – October 28, 1996 (2nd hour)
November 11, 1996 - November 18, 1996 (2nd hour)
Tony Schiavone, Mike Tenay and Larry Zbyszko* May 26, 1997 – July 28, 1997 (1st hour)
August 11, 1997 - March 29, 1999 (1st hour/1st-2nd hour)
Tony Schiavone, Bobby Heenan and Mike Tenay** November 4, 1996 (2nd hour)
November 25, 1996 – March 29, 1999 (2nd hour/3rd hour)
August 4, 1997 (2nd hour-3rd hour)
December 20, 1999 – January 24, 2000 (1st/2nd hour-3rd hour)
Tony Schiavone and Bobby Heenan June 17, 1996 – June 24, 1996 (2nd hour)
April 5, 1999 – July 12, 1999 (1st-3rd hour)
August 9, 1999 – December 13, 1999 (1st-3rd hour)
Scott Hudson and Bobby Heenan July 19, 1999 – August 2, 1999 (1st-3rd hour)
Tony Schiavone, Mike Tenay and Mark Madden January 31, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
Tony Schiavone and Mark Madden February 7, 2000 – March 27, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
August 28, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
Tony Schiavone, Scott Hudson and Mark Madden April 10, 2000 – July 10, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
July 24, 2000 – August 21, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
September 18, 2000 – October 2, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
October 30, 2000 – November 6, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
November 20, 2000 - December 4, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
December 18, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
Tony Schiavone, Mark Madden and Stevie Ray July 18, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
October 9, 2000 – October 23, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
Tony Schiavone, Mark Madden and Jeremy Borash September 4, 2000 - September 11, 2000 (1st-2nd hour)
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Tony Schiavone, Scott Hudson and Disco Inferno January 8, 2001 (1st-2nd hour)
Tony Schiavone and Scott Hudson January 15, 2001 – March 26, 2001 (1st-2nd hour)
All from after Paul Heyman had left WCW
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I'm not really sure why Jack Swagger didn't qualify for the RAW All-Star Money in the Bank Ladder Match, since he's won one before. I actually wouldn't mind it if they just swapped him over in a conversation between Zeb Colter and Vickie Guerrero or something. That would leave one more spot open for the World Title one. How about you have Curtis Axel vs. The Miz for the IC Title with the winner earning a spot in it. The Miz wins and gives them one face to cheer for in there (although I think the Philly crowd will probably be going for Ambrose and Barrett).
You could always just have other people put in there randomly. They've had 10 people in MITB before, they could do it again if they want to. I wouldn't mind if they had some qualifying matches for lesser qualified guys to get in there. I don't mind Sin Cara in MITB. Drew Mac is another one. Or Tensai, I loved him in the other MITB he was in, Brodus Clay would be interesting in this match. Santino too. Or maybe Yoshi or Zack Ryder could get an upset victory and have a little moment to shine on PPV in a ladder match. I doubt that'd happen though, just wishful thinking.
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No Lion Tamer option?
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Made note that, incredibly for the Lumberjack Match portion of 3 Stages of Hell, there were 3 guys I did not even know were still in WWE:
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A GUN! A FUCKING GUN! WHY ARE THE AUTHORITIES NOT INVOLVED!
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Because. The 2nd Amendment. DUH!
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I know, I was making fun of those who cry foul over the subject. Mostly at retarded times.
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