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Old 01-02-2012, 11:04 PM   #481
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:05 PM   #482
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Also, a lot of "assumptions" from you guys. There was really nothing at all to make you think this was a HEEL return. So cut me the "THIS IS BRILLIANT" bullshit.

It is just a likely they thought just working up the crowd and cutting no promo would be GOOD SHIT.
there's no doubt plenty of people are jumping on the brilliant bandwagon conclusion that they wouldn't have come to alone but there isn't a remote chance that was supposed to be working up the crowd and cutting no promo as GOOD SHIT with just how over the top it was and the mic tease
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:05 PM   #483
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:05 PM   #484
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:06 PM   #485
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:06 PM   #486
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dunno why Ryder's so scared about going to visit Hornswoggle and friends
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And then in the end we find out that Kane was just a figment of our imagination.
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:07 PM   #490
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:08 PM   #491
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:09 PM   #492
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after a month plus buildup - and a major return...Fuck Subtlety...That is not the time.
Jericho is the goods. He just went out there and proved that he didn't have to say SHIT to get a reaction. I can understand that you were looking forward to something totally different. Just like Taker coming back after a month build of videos only to be interupted by Triple H and all we got was a staredown...it was brilliant!
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:25 PM   #495
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Also, a lot of "assumptions" from you guys. There was really nothing at all to make you think this was a HEEL return. So cut me the "THIS IS BRILLIANT" bullshit.

It is just a likely they thought just working up the crowd and cutting no promo would be GOOD SHIT.
I wasn't going for a "this is a brilliant heel turn" brilliant I enjoyed it as it was with no assumptions; Jericho came back and had the crowd at his whim. I enjoyed it but I could understand it being a let down for some.
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:27 PM   #496
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:27 PM   #497
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Gonna reserve judgment on that big return for now. I get that Jericho's return was "clever" and they swerved us, but I wanna see how it connects to those super cryptic and creepy it begins promos. As far as "continuity" goes, that return didn't make sense at all. So we'll see where they go with this and it'll probably turn out that it's awesome.


But either way, Jericho is back and that makes me a happy panda!
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:29 PM   #499
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Only thing I was disappointed in was the use of the apocalyptic style promos cause I was kinda looking forward to a doomsayer type gimmick with it being 2012, but obviously that's what he wanted to do, get people excited for it and pull the rug from under all that. Smart work.

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Old 01-02-2012, 11:36 PM   #500
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:38 PM   #502
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That was great. He didn't say Welcome to Raw is Jericho ohh noes.
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:47 PM   #506
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Wouldn't be surprised if the debut was just part of a giant ruse by him phoning in all that excitement to make the crowd think he actually is a face even though the videos hinted more of a heelish character. Had a bunch of spots where he could have broken the ruse but kept it going to trick the crowd.

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Would be even more hilarious if Jericho got so caught up in working the crowd, they got word to him that they were out of time for his segment and he just had to leave before the planned promo. lol
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:53 PM   #510
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Would be even more hilarious if Jericho got so caught up in working the crowd, they got word to him that they were out of time for his segment and he just had to leave before the planned promo. lol
Nah, it was fine as it happened.
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:55 PM   #511
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Although his return made no sense, and didn't connect with the videos what so ever, Jericho is brilliant.
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:58 PM   #512
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the videos said end of the world, things will never be the same again. So, there are your connections.
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Gonna come out next week and call them all hypocrites, sycophants, and parasites. In that order.

They hated him when he left, but now that he came back, all of a sudden everybody loved him and he could make them do whatever he wanted.
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:59 PM   #514
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the bottom line on the whole thing really is simply the fact that everybody will tune in next week to see what he does next, where it's going, for answers basically. job done really
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:00 AM   #515
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The videos were a little wacky only because it's probably true what was said, that they were making them "neutral" so they could use them for Undertaker if they didn't come to an agreement with Jericho.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:07 AM   #516
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Pretty weird RAW, but I enjoyed it for the most part.

-It seems like they could be setting up for Bryan to be that really annoying heel. I think he'll cheat on SD to go over Show, or just get counted out. Nice match with Cody too.

-Jericho's return was awesome, and it was impressive how he kept the crowd going the entire time. Was hoping for a promo, but it was different and fun. I guess we'll have to wait next week.

-Punk/Ziggler was a good TV match. Obviously wasn't their best since they are planning a PPV match between the two, but it was good. The ending sucked though, especially how Ziggler and Vickie wanted the countout. Why? Do they not know the rules of a title match? Stupid, but regardless, it was a good match.

-Big Show seems to be another wrestler though who doesn't know the rules, as he seemed shocked that he was DQ'd after using a steel chair.

-The main event as a match was good, and put over Ryder nicely since he didn't tap to Swagger. But, that ending with Kane just felt so lame to me. "Ryder's being dragged into the abyss!" Just reeked of TNA.

-So yeah, good show, great to see Y2J back, but just had some strange things on it that stood out to me.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:09 AM   #517
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Glad they've finally toned down Michael Cole. I noticed it a bit last week, but tonight he actually put over Zack Ryder
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Really liked it (missed the main event tho)

Punk v Zigs was a solid match, digging the Miz/Truth stuff (didnt want them to split up in the 1st place though) and was so hyped for the Jericho reveal. Very well done with the 'earthquake' stuff and VP

Havent read the thread, but IMO it went a bit overboard on the crowd milking. Wish hed of said something. Thought the same about Taker/Trips last yr too.
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Wtf did the vids mean damnit
What does it mean? WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!
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