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Old 06-26-2007, 01:36 PM   #801
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3 Eastern? So 2 centeral?
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I wonder what Kevin Sullivan thinks about all of this.
If I was a little more morbid, I would've said that afterall of these years, Kevin Sullivan finally got his revenge.

But I'm sure he is just as hurt and outraged by this as all of us.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:37 PM   #804
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Hey, I don't fling monkey poop. Then again, I haven't said anything about what might have happened...
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the rest of us are flinging maybes like monkeys fling poop.
I'm distressed, gah dammit.
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Well if you remember, both Dean and Chavo always talked about how he usually distanced himself from everyone.

You know kind've like a "loner" somewhat. Usually when shit like this happens they usually have a loner streak in them.

I mean if even his closest friends couldn't really get inside of his head, lord knows what kind of thoughts he's had over the years.
True, very true.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:40 PM   #806
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Lets look at things from another angle. Chris was a work-a-holic. It is fairly obivous. But not just that, he is a work-a-holic in a fake sport. I'm not saying that makes one crazy...alls I'm saying is that makes me question sanity. Especially when you look at how hard Benoit trained to put on fake matches.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:40 PM   #807
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"...lost his temper and threatened to strike the petitioner and cause extensive damage to the home and personal belongings of the parties, including furniture and furnishings."
Not the furniture. That son of a bitch. I'm pissed now.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:40 PM   #808
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While updating their coverage of the Benoit family tragedy, the Atlanta-Journal Constitution has posted a report that Nancy Benoit filed for divorce and an order of protection from Chris Benoit in May 2003.

Nancy Benoit alleged in the divorce petition that Chris, "lost his temper and threatened to strike the petitioner and cause extensive damage to the home and personal belongings of the parties, including furniture and furnishings. Petitioner is in reasonable fear for petitioner's own safety and that of the minor child."

This prompted the judge to issue a restraining order on Chris Benoit from entering their family home. In August 2003, his wife Nancy requested that the petition be dismissed. The couple later reconciled and celebrated Benoit’s WWE World Heavyweight Championship win at WrestleMania 20 in the ring together.
Hmm, well there's some history that could shed some light on it. So he has had some anger issues before that have led to him threatening violence against his wife. It's a big jump from threats of violence straight to murder though.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:41 PM   #809
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Does anyone know what website this press conference thing is on? Im not finding anything about it except from you guys.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:42 PM   #810
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I'm distressed, gah dammit.
Don't worry about it. We are all distressed. I was trying to lighten the mood.

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Old 06-26-2007, 01:42 PM   #811
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While updating their coverage of the Benoit family tragedy, the Atlanta-Journal Constitution has posted a report that Nancy Benoit filed for divorce and an order of protection from Chris Benoit in May 2003.

Nancy Benoit alleged in the divorce petition that Chris, "lost his temper and threatened to strike the petitioner and cause extensive damage to the home and personal belongings of the parties, including furniture and furnishings. Petitioner is in reasonable fear for petitioner's own safety and that of the minor child."

This prompted the judge to issue a restraining order on Chris Benoit from entering their family home. In August 2003, his wife Nancy requested that the petition be dismissed. The couple later reconciled and celebrated Benoit’s WWE World Heavyweight Championship win at WrestleMania 20 in the ring together.
Well, there we go. That's at least something.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:43 PM   #812
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Lets look at things from another angle. Chris was a work-a-holic. It is fairly obivous. But not just that, he is a work-a-holic in a fake sport. I'm not saying that makes one crazy...alls I'm saying is that makes me question sanity. Especially when you look at how hard Benoit trained to put on fake matches.
Some people are just hard workers, and are dedicated to whatever there job is.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:43 PM   #813
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Does anyone know what website this press conference thing is on? Im not finding anything about it except from you guys.
I'm Guessing MSNBC, FOX News, and CNN will carry it. ESPECIALLY CNN, since to them is Psuedo-Local.
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Especially when you look at how hard Benoit trained to put on fake matches.
That's a point. Work your ass off day in and day out, push your body to its limits, literally break your neck for the company, and then watch Mark Henry in the main event while you are stuck in backstage skits timing your pissings while working a midcard program with a guy that they plan on handing a "bixesual love triangle" gimmick to. That would fuck with anyones head.
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Tho I'm not American, I don't know if this is a decent source, but nothing is on the news over here, but they say it may have been via "roid rage"

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Being quiet and a loner is different being socially withdrawn. He works in a business where it is impossible to be socially withdrawn. What I want to know, if maybe in the past month or so, did he become socially withdrawn? Ya know, he was always kinda quiet, but then he got to where he wouldn't even talk to his closest friends. Maybe he stopped changing in the dressing room with everybody. Didn't travel with anybody else, that sort of thing.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:44 PM   #817
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That's the second time I've heard his name, what does he have to do with this?
Kevin Sullivan at the time in wcw booked an angle where Benoit and Woman (Benoit's wife, Nancy) got together and were involved in an affair. (Sullivan and Woman were together). However, the storylined actually turned real when Benoit actually DID have an affair with Nancy, and the two wound up getting together and staying together.

This is a very sad day btw, i haven't got a chance to add my two cents on this fourm...but i just cant believe it
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Hmm, well there's some history that could shed some light on it. So he has had some anger issues before that have led to him threatening violence against his wife. It's a big jump from threats of violence straight to murder though.
Yeah, no kidding...and it took 4 years too.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:45 PM   #819
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Hmm, well there's some history that could shed some light on it. So he has had some anger issues before that have led to him threatening violence against his wife. It's a big jump from threats of violence straight to murder though.
Well there's been a 4 year time frame.

Do you realize how many times Benoit could've actually beaten on Nancy in that time and ontop of that, she probably didn't report in fear of her and Daniel's safety?
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Not the furniture. That son of a bitch. I'm pissed now.
Not the Moss Covered Three Handled Family Gredunza! That was a gift from Perry!

to soon?
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:47 PM   #821
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So it was roid rage then maybe?
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:47 PM   #822
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Yeh but she took steps against him on threats of violence, certainly she would have done the same in the event of actual violence occuring.
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Snape killed Benoit.
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PWTorch.com has learned that one major media entity has received an email purporting to be from a friend of the Chris Benoit extended family saying that Benoit accidentally killed his wife in a domestic argument, then panicked and killed his son later so his son could be with his mother rather than grow up without a mom and knowing his father as a murderer.
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Being quiet and a loner is different being socially withdrawn. He works in a business where it is impossible to be socially withdrawn. What I want to know, if maybe in the past month or so, did he become socially withdrawn? Ya know, he was always kinda quiet, but then he got to where he wouldn't even talk to his closest friends. Maybe he stopped changing in the dressing room with everybody. Didn't travel with anybody else, that sort of thing.
Yeah, I wonder if anyone did notice a change like this recently and just thought something like, "Oh, he must just be pissed about being moved to ECW."

You know every single one of them is gonna think back to try and see if there was anything they could have done...any behaviors they should have spoke up about. Still though, you can never anticipate something like this happening. Especially to someone that you've known for that length of time and spend so much time with on the road and stuff. That's the truly scary part to me.
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This makes me believe it wasn't roid rage...

Several reports have said that nothing was out of place in the home, everything seemed very ordinary. So in the fit of a roid rage he broke nothing in the home, didn't beat either of them, he simply strangled and or smothered them.
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If its roid rage then Pro Wrestling may die and sports will be turned upside down. There'll be an investigation into things like who was Benoits dealer or distributer. And when they turn over a few of those stones, i'm sure more things will come out. More names. Sports star names.
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Yeh but she took steps against him on threats of violence, certainly she would have done the same in the event of actual violence occuring.
You can't always assume that just because she reported a threat, that she'd end up reporting anything else that might have happened.
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Well there's been a 4 year time frame.

Do you realize how many times Benoit could've actually beaten on Nancy in that time and ontop of that, she probably didn't report in fear of her and Daniel's safety?
Right, when Benoit is on the road far, far from home most of the year?
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Bret Hart speaks on Benoit's death


From The Calgary Sun:

Members of the Hart family wrestled with the sudden, tragic death of Chris Benoit yesterday.

Legendary wrestler Bret Hart had to stop and compose himself often when talking fondly of a man considered his brother and friend.

"I don't know the details, and I'm not sure I even want to know," said Hart, just hours after learning of the discovery of Benoit's body -- along with those of his wife and son -- in his suburban Atlanta home.

"He was like a family member to me, and everyone in my family is taking it real hard.

"It's almost like reliving the whole Owen (Hart) death over again."

At a young age, Benoit, an Edmonton native, became a standout among many wrestling prospects who trained in the famed 'dungeon' basement of the Hart family's home in Calgary.

"Chris was always one of the good guys -- a straight guy and a hard-working guy," Hart said.

"When you list off all the qualities of someone like Benoit, he had a lot of integrity and was a good, family man."

"He was really respected and really loved by everybody."
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Right, when Benoit is on the road far, far from home most of the year?
Right, "most" is the keyword.

Over the span of 4 years, with the problems they've been reportedly having over the years. It only takes one threat of violence to lead to only one act of violence. It didn't have to happen 3 months after the initial incident in 2003. It could've boiled over into 2006.

Remember? Benoit was out for a while last year. Plenty of time at home with the wife.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:59 PM   #834
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Maybe she wouldnt submit.
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I mean, he definately could have been beating her and/or their son. But if she took a stand against threats alone logically I would think she would do it if violence actually occured. BUT, that is still an assumption and not necessarily the case...
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Let's not fall into the "helpless battered woman" trap here. Does she look like a weakling to you? I'm not saying Benoit couldn't overpower her on his worst day, but she does not strike me as a cowering helpless sort.
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Anyone know if the press conference is televised? Or is it on wwe.com?
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Let's not fall into the "helpless battered woman" trap here. Does she look like a weakling to you? I'm not saying Benoit couldn't overpower her on his worst day, but she does not strike me as a cowering helpless sort.
Yeh I really dont think she was being abused. Like I said, she threatened to leave him and got a restraining order on threats of violence alone.

But, ya know, he might have threatened her again. And she might have responded with "That's it, i'm outta here." And he responed with "Oh no you're not".
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But, ya know, he might have threatened her again. And she might have responded with "That's it, i'm outta here." And he responed with "Oh no you're not".
Might have, yeah, and she might have slipped him hallucenogenic drugs that made him think she was the demon beast from the slime pits of the third moon of Squarnshellous Zeta come to kill him and his family. Until we at least have some kind of evidence of real abuse, I'm not jumping on that train.
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Benoit to me put the professional in professional wrestling. Hard work, class, actually earning his title shots, willing to work with AND PUT OVER the younger guys...

These events just go to show you how little we know of these men and women we spend countless hours watching and conversing about.

Although nothing has been ruled or finalized yet, everything so far looks pretty damning on Chris Benoit. The murder of his son is what makes this such an atrocity. Terrible. Fucking terrible.

I guess in the end it comes down to three people losing their life and a wrestling legacy likely being completely dismissed by history. Forget the Hall of Fame. Forget tearful wrestlers pointing to the sky wearing black armbands. Forget it all. Chris Benoit destroyed 22 years in 2 days and boiled his entire career down from what would have been pages upon pages of glowing reviews to one sentence: "the wrestler who killed his family and himself." Perhaps that seems too rough. Time will tell.

Just sucks to see someone you thought so right turn so wrong...
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