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Old 11-27-2006, 06:28 PM   #81
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Old 11-28-2006, 10:55 AM   #82
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Good stuff last night. Kinda like a prequel to alot of the stuff that was just there. It's like Sylar can take things apart, fix them, learn from them. I think what's happening is he dissects the brain, figures out the mutation and adds it to his being. At least that's what I'm getting from it. Patrelli can do it naturally, Sylar does it through dissection.
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:21 PM   #84
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Sylar is pretty cool.
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Old 11-28-2006, 06:38 PM   #85
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So did Sylar have any powers to begin with I wonder, or did it just start with the telekinesis guy?
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Well I'm thinking his power was the ability to take (dissect) things apart and figure them out, like the watches. The more he worked on watches, the faster he could see a problem with them, fix them. Like when the doctor walked in and he saw the watch on his wrist and knew immediately that it was off by 2 seconds. I believe as he began learning from dissection and figuring out the powers that each had, he had the ability to make it his. Maybe he finds the soul in there or something as was proposed by the Doctor. Either way, he assumes their power, somehow, through the dissection process.
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He seemed to have the power to hear when something wasn't functioning "properly".

Dunno how he seemingly gains their powers tho.
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Great stuff. Last night's episode was brilliant.

Best episode yet.

The great thing about this show is that it allows you to think. It's not like Lost where you can consider all possibilities but they just change the story one week later, it's like the pieces are in front of us but we have to put them together. The clues are there, they are subtle, but they are there.

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Good stuff last night. Kinda like a prequel to alot of the stuff that was just there. It's like Sylar can take things apart, fix them, learn from them. I think what's happening is he dissects the brain, figures out the mutation and adds it to his being. At least that's what I'm getting from it. Patrelli can do it naturally, Sylar does it through dissection.
I believe Patrelli can only use the powers of those that he is around. I don't think he can use them otherwise. But I got the same sort of feeling from Sylar. I think he "takes apart" their heads and learns their powers and he wants to become as powerful as possible so he's finding everyone and learning from them.
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Also, I'm beginning to think Nicky doesn't have powers. More that she's possessed by her dead sister. You know, not all these unique people have to have powers.

Also, I know Nathan absorbs other powers but has none himself and that that absorbed power goes away soon after he's out of contact with them. He so much as said so himself.
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I believe Patrelli can only use the powers of those that he is around. I don't think he can use them otherwise. But I got the same sort of feeling from Sylar. I think he "takes apart" their heads and learns their powers and he wants to become as powerful as possible so he's finding everyone and learning from them.
Patrelli set his leg quite some time after the cheerleader left. I'm not sure if it was "just because," but it'd seem the duration is getting better.

People look at Sylar wrong. Sylar sees how things work. That's how he sees how things are broken. How that translates into being able to alter his own brain to adapt new powers, I'm not entirely sure, but he's apparently able to do so.

I don't think he needs to take things apart in any sense, I believe he has a natural understanding of what's right, and what's wrong.

Actually, I'm kind of hoping that he doesn't need to kill people to take their powers, because the "villain" from one of my series does the same thing...
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I was going to mention that Patrelli set his legs quite a bit after the cheerleader left, yeah... I like your concept on Sylar, but I do believe he has to get inside to figure it out, IE kill them.
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Well, he figured out the problem before ever touching the watch...Or the PK.
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Why the slicing of the head then?
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He understands where the abnormality in the brain is. He removes it, then uses it himself.

Nikki definitely has powers...whether or not her split personality is a part of it, ripping people in half with your bare hands isn't that normal tbh
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Well, he figured out the problem before ever touching the watch...Or the PK.
But I think that's because he was a watch repair guy... I think over time, he might be able to see things instant like you say but remember, he got the cheerleaders wrong. He is fallible at this point.

AS for Nicky, I believe it's the dead sister that had the power and is using her living sister to do her deeds. (Is Nicky the dead sister or the living, I've become confused on which is which... name wise)
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But I think that's because he was a watch repair guy... I think over time, he might be able to see things instant like you say but remember, he got the cheerleaders wrong. He is fallible at this point.
He was able to analyse the PK without killing him. Didn't he explicitly say (I didn't record this, or I'd check) that he could see it in his brain? Prior to beaning the fucker? It's not just the watch that he was able to diagnose pre-dissection.

As for the Cheerleader? I made this comment to my buddy while watching it. I then said, "Then again, everyone else was sure she was the 'special' one, so why not just assume?"

He may be fallible, but he hardly had any reason to go scanning for her--she was big news. He may have simply been killing her so she wouldn't fight back--Not so much because he needed to. I'd imagine, since he killed the other guy with a speech that made it sound like he was gunning to kill all the Nova...Errrr...Heroes, that he's on a mission. And I bet it's easier to deal with them if he's not worrying about them fighting back. But he doesn't need to open them up to see the problem.

He may need to to assimilate the powers, but that's still unclear. And I hope not.
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He was able to analyse the PK without killing him. Didn't he explicitly say (I didn't record this, or I'd check) that he could see it in his brain? Prior to beaning the fucker? It's not just the watch that he was able to diagnose pre-dissection.

As for the Cheerleader? I made this comment to my buddy while watching it. I then said, "Then again, everyone else was sure she was the 'special' one, so why not just assume?"

He may be fallible, but he hardly had any reason to go scanning for her--she was big news. He may have simply been killing her so she wouldn't fight back--Not so much because he needed to. I'd imagine, since he killed the other guy with a speech that made it sound like he was gunning to kill all the Nova...Errrr...Heroes, that he's on a mission. And I bet it's easier to deal with them if he's not worrying about them fighting back. But he doesn't need to open them up to see the problem.

He may need to to assimilate the powers, but that's still unclear. And I hope not.
The two girls were together, so if he could read the PK guy then how come he couldn't read the cheerleader?

I think he knew the PK because of Chandra's notes. He knew he could do something. He probably simply went to the guy and used the same reasoning that Chandra did with him and asked if he had any abnormal powers, telling the guy he could help him.
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The two girls were together, so if he could read the PK guy then how come he couldn't read the cheerleader?
Who said he couldn't? In fact, I already addressed this, saying he probably didn't feel the need to.

And again, since I'm reiterating the rest of my point anyway, he said he could see the problem in his mind, did he not? Please, if this is contrary to your understanding, say so, but do not ignore my entire post. I'm checking for it now, on the webcast, but if anyone wants to save me the 50 minutes of time please, just say something to the contrary.

He was looking for something in the PK.

Now, you're gunning for the cheerleader with super powers, do you scan all the cheerleaders nearby, or do you go for the one on the news?
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Yeah, rewatching, it's pretty explicit that he knows what's going on beforehand. HE doesn't say exactly what I thought he said, but he does say things that show off a knowledge and understanding before he does anything to the guy. On top of that, the scene flash is pretty clearly supposed to indicate it, as well.
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I don't know Kane, the other argument I would bring up is that Sylar killed the 'quick learning' girl, the waitress, instead of Hiro. No disrespect to her abilities, but if I were in his position, I would surely have killed Hiro before her. I still believe he doesn't know as much until he gets into their brain.
Also, he's using the Doctors notes to locate them, not just being drawn to them. All these things make me inclined to believe he's unclear who is who... at this point.
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All these things make me inclined to believe he's unclear who is who... at this point.
Hell, my own posts all seem to imply that he has to actually LOOK to see a problem. If he's going off the Prof's notes, he's probably not going to scan. If he's not looking for them, he's not going to find them. He saw a flaw in the watch because he assumed that someone coming into his shop would have a watch problem. He saw a "flaw" in the PK because he was looking for it. He didn't see Hiro as a Quantum Physics Benderer because he wasn't looking for a superhuman, or a Japanese quantum physics benderer.
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Old 12-03-2006, 04:43 PM   #106
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It's obvious that Sylar eats brains.
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Old 12-04-2006, 12:36 AM   #107
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I think we're saying the same thing in a different way. Although I do believe he has to get into their brains, at least at this point. The more powers he assumes, the more powerful he becomes (obviously) and would be able to recognize these people immediately at some point. Not so sure I'd say he eats them, but who knows.
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Man this show just keeps getting better and better. VERY interesting ep.
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Good stuff. Claire running at the end in her cheerleader outfit...so hot.
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I watch it with my daughter and she's like so engrossed into the show. At about the 50 minute mark of the last episode, she turned to me and said "I can't believe how this show just gets better and better". I've heard it said here too, and it's true. I really like the pace and development of this show. It's encouraging to me to see a show that's thought out. I'm sure it doesn't suit everyone, but I get that, what I'm really raving about is the depth of it.

Sure hope it's a trend of things to come for TV programs.
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Yeah, it's like I get the feeling that the real story hasn't even begun to unfold yet.
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Kinda inaccurate since she does seem to get super strong, but OH WELL.
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Old 01-24-2007, 07:23 AM   #115
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Pretty good return episode.

I marked out for the invisible guy at the end.
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Invisible Guy looks like a cool new character.

Hurray for Heroes being back.

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God, the Nikki/Jessica story slows the show down. She needs to get killed off.
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Yeah definately, that's probably the weakest storyline.
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