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Old 05-20-2010, 10:16 PM   #1361
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Cool, but I kinda feel the same as the writer of the article. More with the exclusion of material rather than the cost of the DVD pack.
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Old 05-20-2010, 10:19 PM   #1362
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He doesn't feel that way, he just pointed out that's how some fans may feel.

Personally, I don't think of it that way at all. It's obviously stuff that had no place in the show to begin with, and didn't need to be answered.
It's just a cool little thing they're doing for a special feature. They need to fill space on the DVDs. I'd rather them be doing it than not, since working a long winded answer to something that doesn't need one is the last thing I expect them to be doing in the actual show.
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Old 05-20-2010, 10:21 PM   #1363
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What is the big question about the cabin? Noticed he brought that up. MIB was using it and doing weird things within it to make the visitors think it was Jacob.
What's the real mystery there?

The strange figure can be attributed to the fact that they hadn't cast MIB yet, and he can do all sorts of crazy things to be scary.
The eye thing was just for the sake of being creepy.
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Old 05-20-2010, 10:29 PM   #1364
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Na, personally, if they are big answers like 'What is the Island?' in the DVD features, I will be pissed it wasn't worked into the show, even though it is a big one that probably will be explained, or partially. Just don't like the idea that there's going to be enough material left out that it's 20 minutes worth, and depending on how that's presented, it could be a lot.

The cabin Unanswered Questions
How was the cabin able to change locations?
Who broke the circle of ash surrounding the cabin?
When was the circle of ash surrounding the cabin broken?
What were the liquids in the jars?
Why did Ilana order the burning of the cabin?
How did Ben know of the cabin and its whereabouts?
What,if any, is the significance of the dog painting?

Inhabitants
When did Jacob inhabit the cabin?
Why did he stop using it?
Who else had been using it?
Who was the shadowy figure seen in "The Man Behind the Curtain"?
Who asked Locke for help?
Why did objects start flying around the room?
Whose eye did Hurley see in the cabin in "The Beginning of the End"?

I assume some of the mysteries on the DVD feature will be things like Walt's powers and apparitions, pregnancy, healing properties - although some of those can be explained at the same time as others, as well as the big ones like what the Island is.
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Old 05-20-2010, 10:29 PM   #1365
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I think Walt's deal is probably the biggest unsolved mystery, but even still it's not really an issue.
Walt was "gifted" in strange ways, but so are other characters. Hurley and Miles are examples.
The Others just let him go so they could save Ben. Just because he was gifted didn't mean he was all-important.
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Half of those questions are ridiculous and pointless. A lot of Lost fans have gotten to the point of absurdity in their quest for "answers"
The show breeds mystery and thought, but people have become obsessed with this idea of everything having detailed explanation, to the point where it distracts from the story, and the very mystery that makes Lost/science fiction/fantasy interesting to begin with

Unanswered questions:
Does the Cabin have a basement?
When did the Cabin get a primer coat?
Is there working plumbing?
What did Ben have for breakfast?
Does the Smoke Monster shit?
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I think Walt's deal is probably the biggest unsolved mystery, but even still it's not really an issue.
Walt was "gifted" in strange ways, but so are other characters. Hurley and Miles are examples.
The Others just let him go so they could save Ben. Just because he was gifted didn't mean he was all-important.
But Walt is the only person to be seen somewhere he wasn't supposed to be who isn't dead, and at one time wasn't even on the island. He also manifested his thoughts more than anyone else.

I always thought this was quite interesting, involves Walt:



Miles is gifted in a plausible kind of way, but it also works for him off Island. Hurley is 'blessed' because he can talk to the dead people, but other people have also seen the dead or had visions of them.
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Yea, one thing that was curious to me was that Walt came to Locke while he was dying in the pit, and told him to get moving or whatever.

Since he isn't dead, it wasn't MIB. Honestly I think it was just something to get Locke out of that situation, and it can be attributed to either a vision, or telepathy being shown that way for the audience.
Walt could have been contacting him. We don't know that anyone else saw Walt either.
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Half of those questions are ridiculous and pointless. A lot of Lost fans have gotten to the point of absurdity in their quest for "answers"
The show breeds mystery and thought, but people have become obsessed with this idea of everything having detailed explanation, to the point where it distracts from the story, and the very mystery that makes Lost/science fiction/fantasy interesting to begin with

Unanswered questions:
Does the Cabin have a basement?
When did the Cabin get a primer coat?
Is there working plumbing?
What did Ben have for breakfast?
Does the Smoke Monster shit?
Yeah but that doesn't mean people can't speculate or try to guess as to what they think about it all, its part of the whole point of the mystery and intrigue you talk about. It's all about a process of elimination for some people, with regard to some stuff I am one of them, not because I want there to be a detailed answer but by thinking about what I know, what could be, and how, and how it all connects, even the 'rules' for which the Island operates, it makes you dig deeper, find out stuff you didn't know from other ideas, theories etc.


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Well yeah, that list was pasted from Lostpedia. I personally don't see much mystery with the Cabin anymore. I assume the man in the chair was MIB in some form or another, and he's the one who said 'Help me' to Locke.

But the circles of ash time line and why Jacob wasn't using it yet he sent Ilana there, some of those things confuse me a bit.
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I noticed in that clip that Jacob wanted Walt there. That means MIB wanted him there.
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Yea, one thing that was curious to me was that Walt came to Locke while he was dying in the pit, and told him to get moving or whatever.

Since he isn't dead, it wasn't MIB. Honestly I think it was just something to get Locke out of that situation, and it can be attributed to either a vision, or telepathy being shown that way for the audience.
Walt could have been contacting him. We don't know that anyone else saw Walt either.
Shannon and Sayid saw him in the jungle all wet, speaking backward when he was supposedly with The Others.

If it was Walt in these visions through telepathy, wouldn't it of been addressed when Locke visited him when he left the island? I mean Locke knew he wasn't on the Island at that point. I dunno. Lots of questions there I guess.
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Yea I recognized the list from Lostpedia that's why I said it. It kind of irks me that they have that shit to begin with, because half the time I roll my eyes at them.

I'm all for answers, don't get me wrong, but it's definitely become dominant for some fans.
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Another thing with Walt was that he said he had dreams about Locke on the beach 'dressed in a suit' surrounded by people who wanted to hurt him or something. So even though he had a dream about who he thought was Locke, it wouldn't of been when it came to pass. I don't know if that's interesting or not. Not to the story obviously.

And with Locke, when he was a child, when Richard visited him, he noticed drawings of the smoke monster on his wall, so he was dreaming of the future? MIB was 'calling him' at that point? it's vast, the power of the island.

How did Hurley still become plagued by Charlie when he left and was back in the mental place? It couldn't of been MIB, could've been Jacob but he visited him as himself later anyway, maybe the Island?
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What was The Others objective in kidnapping certain survivors of the crash?
I forget.

And we know Ben never met Jacob, but was he getting his lists and orders from him in some indirect way, or MIB, or was he just making it up?

I know this was addressed, but I'm drawing a blank right now.
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Another thing with Walt was that he said he had dreams about Locke on the beach 'dressed in a suit' surrounded by people who wanted to hurt him or something. So even though he had a dream about who he thought was Locke, it wouldn't of been when it came to pass. I don't know if that's interesting or not. Not to the story obviously.

And with Locke, when he was a child, when Richard visited him, he noticed drawings of the smoke monster on his wall, so he was dreaming of the future? MIB was 'calling him' at that point? it's vast, the power of the island.

How did Hurley still become plagued by Charlie when he left and was back in the mental place? It couldn't of been MIB, could've been Jacob but he visited him as himself later anyway, maybe the Island?
Perhaps Walt was just an extra-special candidate, and that's why The Others were so interested in him, just like they were with Locke.
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as for Hurley, I always just assumed he kept his powers. He didn't chat with dead people before The Island?
Even if he didn't, and that started happening on The Island, it makes sense that he would still have that while he was home since The Island wasn't done with them yet, and still had power over them. That's what explains Jack's strange obsession and feeling of emptiness that makes him feel like he needs to get back there more than anything in the world.
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What was The Others objective in kidnapping certain survivors of the crash?
I forget.

And we know Ben never met Jacob, but was he getting his lists and orders from him in some indirect way, or MIB, or was he just making it up?

I know this was addressed, but I'm drawing a blank right now.
I assume Ben got his orders from Jacob through Richard. It depends on whether all of them were on a list from Jacob, or at one point he went rogue and started working on his own agendas etc. According to Richard, the whole child birth thing wasn't important and was a waste of time. He said that to Locke when he gave him Sawyers file on the hill in season 3.

With regard to The Others lists/kidnapping survivors:

- Cindy, the children and any others from the tail section:

- I guess they were not vital to Jacobs plans so they were taken as being branded 'good people' and the kids being innocent etc, and 'not flawed'. I remember Mikhail said to Kate, Sayid and Locke that one or more of them wasn't on the list because they were 'flawed'. His interpretation of the list would refer to the one Ben supposedly made or got from Jacob.

- Claire

Further study of women giving birth/making sure the baby would be born healthy and alive.

- Jack, Kate & Sawyer

- Think Ben legit wanted these three because they were on the list, or a list he had from Jacob. Too much depended on them going to Hydra Island at that point, which would lead to other events that were pivitol and important - the construction of the runway later used by the Ajira flight. Jack's surgery on Ben. And, most importantly, for Locke to make his first proper contact with The Others.
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Just found something on Lostpedia that is very interesting...


However, his apparent ability to commune with Jacob made John a threat to Ben, who shot him and left him for dead in the DHARMA Grave. The Island, in the form of Walt, rescued Locke and told him that he still had work to do.

This is interesting as hell for a few reasons. First, is that it explains Walt appearing to Locke as just the will of The Island. I'm not sure where they got that from, but if it has any truth to it, it makes a lot of sense to me.
Especially since "Jacob" is the one who caused Ben's jealousy and almost got Locke killed. In other words, the MIB could have been manipulating the situation and found a loophole then and there.
Either way, he was obviously posing as Jacob to influence them and get John Locke to help him get his way.
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That's what explains Jack's strange obsession and feeling of emptiness that makes him feel like he needs to get back there more than anything in the world.
Do you mean here, that those feelings from Jack were a result of the island's grip/power of those who left?

I always think of and love the fact that Locke had his journey and character down from the start and as the show went on....

- On the way to the hatch, where he said Jack believes in faith/fate, he just didn't know it

- Then in season 3 about how he's 'not supposed to do it' (make the phone call)

- Then in season 4 how if he leaves, the knowledge he has deep down, that he was meant to be there for a reason will eat him up until he decides to come back. And how if anyone can lie to the world as good as they need to it would be Jack.

As well as seeing the Island move, knowing Locke was right and that he did something he could never imagine could happen. Locke's visit off island, the coffin scene, the suicide letter. It's just a great character arc as well as an exceptional juxtaposition of characters that evolve and change in such a unique way.

Some great pairings of characters throughout this show:

Jack and Locke
Locke and Ben
Sawyer and Jack
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However, his apparent ability to commune with Jacob made John a threat to Ben, who shot him and left him for dead in the DHARMA Grave. The Island, in the form of Walt, rescued Locke and told him that he still had work to do.

This is interesting as hell for a few reasons. First, is that it explains Walt appearing to Locke as just the will of The Island. I'm not sure where they got that from, but if it has any truth to it, it makes a lot of sense to me.
Especially since "Jacob" is the one who caused Ben's jealousy and almost got Locke killed. In other words, the MIB could have been manipulating the situation and found a loophole then and there.
Either way, he was obviously posing as Jacob to influence them and get John Locke to help him get his way.
Yeah I think I said or mentioned that, since Walt was off Island, so it must of been the island, acting as a kind of 'neutral' move where Jacob and MIB could both benefit/work their game plan on from Locke making it out of the pit, a move I also believed the island could've executed when it split the Ajira flight into two time lines. That's what I mean, the island is an entity, it has intelligence and such power, it has to be explained in the finale, has to be.
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Old 05-20-2010, 11:19 PM   #1382
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That's what I mean, the island is an entity, it has intelligence and such power, it has to be explained in the finale, has to be.
Jack's going to go find the tunnel with the light. He is going to enter it and see this:
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I feel like Jack gained his faith, and went back to The Island because he began to believe, but I also feel The Island was calling him back.
It was like there was an absence in him when he got to the mainland.
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Old 05-20-2010, 11:22 PM   #1384
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So both, really. I've definitely always viewed it as Jack finding his faith and beginning to believe, and realizing Locke is right. But at the same time I always saw him as destroyed by the fact that he was away from The Island. Like an addict.
Maybe it took being away to realize this.
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I do love Jack's newfound path, and how his character has evolved. Some amazing moments throughout the last few seasons especially. The scene where he jumps off 'Sawyer's' boat, I got chills on my fuckin back when I watched that for the first time.

Part of me just imagined and hoped Locke would've turned out to be the one in his shoes, making these final important and possibly-existence-saving/ending steps. Part of me still thinks he will.

Anyway, its 4:30am I need to 'get LOST'. Another day closer to 'it'.
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So both, really. I've definitely always viewed it as Jack finding his faith and beginning to believe, and realizing Locke is right. But at the same time I always saw him as destroyed by the fact that he was away from The Island. Like an addict.
Maybe it took being away to realize this.
I think you are right. Just look at his comments to Sawyer on the boat before he jumps.
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For you fellow brits that for some reason still watch on Sky1, they'll be showing the finale at 5am Sunday night/Monday morning, roughly in line with American TV.
I'm semi-tempted to get up early on Monday and watch it before I go to work, but I'll probably just end up Sky Plus-ing it and watching it on Monday night.
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lol those TGIF intros. Everyone doing natural things during their credit. The Family Matters one is the best.
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Lost explained as the 2007 Patriots...pretty funny I thought

http://espn.go.com/blog/sportscenter...lost-youll-see
Vince is Jacob and Hogan is Ben? That was a fucked up albeit funny video.
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lol those TGIF intros. Everyone doing natural things during their credit. The Family Matters one is the best.
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It's funny you guys were talking about Walt up there

I was watching season 2 again tonight, specificaly the one where Shannon gets killed by Ana Lucia's bullet. This is also the episode where Walt was all wet and speaking backwards. Walt caused Shannon to run into Ana Lucia and get shot. It does kind of make sense that the Island was appearing as Walt. And I'm trying to figure out if by the Island sacrificing Shannon that night had a bigger purpose in the long run? I can't remember if it had any big efffect on anything though.

By the way, the episode after that was the one when they go back to Day 1 and show the timeline of the tail section of the plane. That's another thing I loved about Lost was when they would go back in time and show what was happening in another part of the island. It kind of showed you two perspectives. And then it would bring you to the present. very cool. Oh and in this episode Goodwin (who was The Other killed by Ana Lucia) tells Ana that Nathan (one of the tail section people) was killed because he "wasn't a good person" ha, makes total sense now
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