03-02-2012, 03:29 PM | #161 |
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Bounty that, you shitheads.
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03-02-2012, 04:18 PM | #162 |
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This is pretty incredible. Been looking for a reason to hate the Saints and discredit their accomplishments in some way.
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03-02-2012, 04:26 PM | #163 |
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Bounties in football are old news. Buddy Ryan did it for years.
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03-02-2012, 04:51 PM | #164 |
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why did you delete your post, mallards59?
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03-02-2012, 04:51 PM | #165 |
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or was it really mallards59 in the first place?
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03-02-2012, 04:52 PM | #166 |
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bet it was skippord
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03-02-2012, 07:11 PM | #167 |
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03-02-2012, 07:30 PM | #168 |
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Saints will probably be docked a low round pick this year in addition to their 1st rounder next year on top of fines and such.
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03-03-2012, 01:02 AM | #169 |
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Hey this is just like those Giants players trying to injure that guy on the 49ers. The one Big Vito said was no big deal and was a part of football.
You guys remember that one. |
03-03-2012, 01:17 AM | #170 |
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When I read it this afternoon my reaction was pretty meh.
I'm not going to pretend this doesn't go on elsewhere and the Saints organization shouldn't be demonized for it. |
03-03-2012, 01:41 AM | #171 |
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This scenario is a part of football too, things like this happen league wide and the Saints are hardly the first team to do it. I just happen to think that the Saints are going to get punished heavily for it because they were caught actually paying players for it and the league is trying to clean up its public image. John Clayton and others have said that the Saints' punishment is probably going to be worse than the one the Patriots got for Spygate.
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03-03-2012, 01:44 AM | #172 |
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Gotta figure we're going to see a ton of rule changes this year based on how injuries are handled. Teams might be forced to shut players down for the year if they get multiple concussions or something. Also practices are probably going to be monitored.
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03-03-2012, 01:45 AM | #173 |
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Since they got bonuses for guys getting carted off, I wonder how many times they gave someone a serious leg injury but they were helped off by trainers instead of getting loaded onto the cart.
Would be gutted in that situation. |
03-03-2012, 03:47 AM | #174 |
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How much for when a player fakes an injury?
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03-03-2012, 11:02 AM | #175 |
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I'm interested in seeing if any suspensions come out of this in addition to whatever other penalties they hand out. Gregg Williams probably will be even though it would hurt the Rams, not the Saints.
Player punishments would be tricky to figure out because they were encouraged to make hard, but clean hits. Any punishment would be based not for what they did on the field, but for what they got paid as a result. If they have a record of how much everybody made, I'd guess the players would get fined that amount rather than being suspended. |
03-03-2012, 01:05 PM | #176 |
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Its part of football.. Head hunting goes back to the dawn of time..
Just because the head hunting worked (e.g. Favre, Warner) made it bigger news than it should be.. I don't agree with trying to hurt other players but to have no incentives for performance is ridiculous.. In reading on this players cant even get bonuses for INTS, sacks, forced fumbles, etc.. That's pretty stupid.. |
03-03-2012, 01:18 PM | #177 |
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Hey guys I know this is football and we all act like a bunch of irrational mongoloids when our favorite team is involved, but intentionally trying to injure people in not a good thing.
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03-03-2012, 01:20 PM | #178 |
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No paying bonuses to intentionally injury players is against everything Gooddell has tried to do..
This wouldn't even be a discussion if Tagliabou was still around.. |
03-03-2012, 01:27 PM | #179 |
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Well then it's probably a good thing Tabliabue isn't around anymore.
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03-03-2012, 01:30 PM | #180 |
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03-03-2012, 01:57 PM | #181 |
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I don't remember who said it, but someone had the idea that they should just take away players' equipment and have them play without pads. Would probably cut down injuries a ton seeing as how guys would stop launching themselves at each other thinking they're invincible wrecking balls.
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03-03-2012, 03:13 PM | #182 |
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03-03-2012, 03:25 PM | #183 |
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I can't see anyone who was offered a sum to take out a player, would even second guess it. I am a Saint's fan and I think it WAS ridiculous the way they organized the bounty, but this has been going on in every football team for years.
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03-03-2012, 04:23 PM | #184 |
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Speaking of the Saints, they officially franchise tagged Brees today because they couldn't come to terms on a long-term deal. So now Carl Nicks is going to go elsewhere and probably get one of the largest offensive lineman free agent contracts ever to boot.
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03-03-2012, 05:02 PM | #185 |
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Gregg Williams probably gonna get suspended and we'll have to find a new DC. GAAYYY
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03-03-2012, 07:24 PM | #186 | |
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03-03-2012, 08:09 PM | #187 |
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Come on Cowboysssssssssssssssssssssssss. We need OL and DBs.
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03-03-2012, 11:00 PM | #188 |
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^^ Hopefully Jerrah opens up his wallet for Nicks
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03-03-2012, 11:36 PM | #189 |
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I really hope we trade up to get the CB out of LSU. He is projected to go like 4th-6th.
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03-03-2012, 11:53 PM | #190 |
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03-03-2012, 11:55 PM | #191 |
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I'd rather sign a CB thru free agency and draft another one in the late rounds. And draft a rush line backer or DeCastro in the 1st if we don't get Nicks. One can fall in love with speed positions but imagine just having a solid G that could make the O-line that much better, giving Romo more time and lanes for Murray.
Also Spencer hasn't lived up so another rushLB is in need..I dont know why Victor Butler doesn't play more he seems to make plays when he does. |
03-04-2012, 02:26 AM | #192 |
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Wow!
Apparently the orgin of Mannings neck injury came from the Redskins game in 2006. And guess who was the defensive coordinator. And no coincidence, now the Redskins are being investigated. I hope Greg Williams never coaches again. What a piece of shit. |
03-04-2012, 02:28 AM | #193 |
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Ofcourse, he did get us Andrew Luck and potentially 20+ years of elite quarterback play. Maybe he's The ( piece of) Shit.
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03-04-2012, 09:07 PM | #194 |
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Just love how deep this investigation is going...
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03-04-2012, 09:12 PM | #195 |
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Yeah that hit on Manning was especially brutal. I also thought every hit on Favre in that NFC championship game was extremely brutal.
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03-04-2012, 09:23 PM | #196 |
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Won't be surprised if other coaches/assistants get caught or eventually outed considering how strongly the NFL has been in regards to the concussion and other "dirty" hits issue. Even Spygate had other coaches admit they did similar tactics in the past.
Probably going to affect a lot of the hard hitting teams with people questioning if those hard hits were normal or had some extra incentive the past previous years. |
03-04-2012, 10:25 PM | #197 |
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Wasn't this an "issue" with Baltimore or Pittsburgh a couple of years ago? I seem to remember ESPN making a fuss about it for a week or so and then it just faded away and nothing came of it.
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03-04-2012, 10:47 PM | #198 |
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Any little football news just gets magnified by ESPN. Not saying this is small news, but like if Peyton Manning gets a cold im sure 10 reporters will be on his porch monitoring what kinda cold medicine he takes.
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03-05-2012, 10:49 AM | #199 |
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"Peyton Manning had intense diarrhea this morning.. Chris Mortenson will be coming in soon with the inside scoop.."
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03-05-2012, 11:07 AM | #200 |
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Actually now that I think about it, a scoop of Manning diarrhea would prolly bring in big money on Ebay.. But than RP would be broke for life..
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