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Old 12-04-2012, 01:48 PM   #38121
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I had to look really close at this pic. I coulda sworn that the 2 people on the right were Corey and Topanga.
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:43 PM   #38122
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:14 PM   #38123
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:32 PM   #38124
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Raw drew it's lowest rating of the year.
http://www.wrestlingnewssource.com/n...medium=twitter

"Monday's WWE Raw drew the lowest audience of the year with an average of 3.44 million viewers. The news comes just two months after the WWE's flagship drew a record low audience of 3.50 million viewers against Monday Night Football's biggest audience of the season.

Monday's first hour drew 3.58 million viewers, 3.37 million in the second hour viewers, and 3.36 million third hour."

The fact that they are losing viewers in the last hour is alarming,.
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:52 PM   #38125
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Raw drew it's lowest rating of the year.
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"Monday's WWE Raw drew the lowest audience of the year with an average of 3.44 million viewers. The news comes just two months after the WWE's flagship drew a record low audience of 3.50 million viewers against Monday Night Football's biggest audience of the season.

Monday's first hour drew 3.58 million viewers, 3.37 million in the second hour viewers, and 3.36 million third hour."

The fact that they are losing viewers in the last hour is alarming,.
lol..... alarming.....sure.....
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:54 PM   #38126
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Doesn't this time of year always have the lowest ratings of the year?
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I think its usually the period after Summer Slam till the last ppv in December is their "down" period in terms of ratings and buys.

Difference this year is them reaching historic lows instead of the usual lows in regards to ratings and not just since the switch to 3 hours.
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I think its usually the period after Summer Slam till the last ppv in December is their "down" period in terms of ratings and buys.

Difference this year is them reaching historic lows instead of the usual lows in regards to ratings and not just since the switch to 3 hours.
This...
Also I remember the 10-11 hour always being the hour where ratings are supposed to go up with the exception of the beginning segment. I don't know, people can keep defending the WWE as their ratings plummit to record lows. Their talent pool is too thin for 3 hours. Now they are trying to get more women viewers. I'm bored of the product and may just watch something else. Have fun with the women centric WWE.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:29 PM   #38129
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Also I remember the 10-11 hour always being the hour where ratings are supposed to go up with the exception of the beginning segment. I don't know, people can keep defending the WWE as their ratings plummit to record lows. Their talent pool is too thin for 3 hours. Now they are trying to get more women viewers. I'm bored of the product and may just watch something else. Have fun with the women centric WWE.
Really? Really? Reeeaalllly? Really?

Seriously though we'll have fun watching WWE. Hope you have fun doing "something else". I for one kinda like the idea of them trying to grab woman's attention. Hopefully this means the Diva's division gets the much needed boost it's been lacking for so long.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:45 PM   #38130
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Really? Really? Reeeaalllly? Really?

Seriously though we'll have fun watching WWE. Hope you have fun doing "something else". I for one kinda like the idea of them trying to grab woman's attention. Hopefully this means the Diva's division gets the much needed boost it's been lacking for so long.
grabbing a woman's attention prolly means more Cena/Orton than it does actual women wrestling..... If they wanted to get the 13-year old boy demographic however.....
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:49 PM   #38131
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:25 PM   #38132
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:25 PM   #38133
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I'm actually kinda hoping that happens. Talk about adding ego to Ziggler.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:41 PM   #38134
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:56 PM   #38135
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:30 PM   #38136
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Bill Demott probably going to be fired soon as the head trainer for NXT.

Allegations of him forcing male wrestlers to wrestle in the nude while taking pictures and laughing was made recently with one person posting an actual image DeMott took during a training session.

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Would make it the second person to speak out on what DeMott does at NXT/FCW with Jeremiah Riggs from the past Tough Enough the first.

Also allegations of him getting the previous head trainer fired just so he could take over which has lead to a lot of talent getting injured from his style of training.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:35 PM   #38137
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I was wondering if this was a BS story of something legit was coming out of it....damn.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:40 PM   #38138
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Kevin Matthews has gone on the offensive against DeMott
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Jack Swagger makes his long awaited return!


Also, was nice of them to invite Brad Maddox into the video despite him "not having a contract".
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Well he was nice enough to travel to England to explain his actions, even though he "didn't have a contract".

Maybe this is the WWE's way of saying thanks.
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Old 12-05-2012, 05:43 PM   #38143
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Damien Sandow should start smoking a pipe when walking down to the ring.

Might be too extreme for PG WWE though...
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:31 PM   #38149
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:59 AM   #38150
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Also, I call bullshit on rob11's claim that the WWE talent pool is too thin for 3 hours.

The correct claim is that they're stretching out the same old shit and adding a bunch of filler INSTEAD OF, you know, adding people.

For example, why should I have to watch Superstars/Saturday Morning Slam/Main Event/NXT or any other show people don't/can't watch to see guys like Trent Baretta or JTG? 3 hour show is a perfect way to have more Zack Ryder, or someone else who "gets no love".

Instead, we get constant flashbacks of shit that happened 10 minutes ago, and 5 Cena segments instead of 3. And we are still pretty much down to the same number of matches that RAW used to put on in ONE HOUR. That part is their own fault.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:24 AM   #38151
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Trent is still getting the ring-rust out from the injury on NXT I think.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:01 AM   #38152
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I know he is, nor am I a super-huge fan of JTG, but that wasn't the point.

The three-hour length was, theoretically, supposed to do the same thing the permanant move to 2 hours was supposed to do- on both RAW and SmackDown, and ultimately hasn't.

There's far too much "ratings are down because Punk can't draw!" and "Cena = girl's watching" and not enough wrestling on a wrestling program. And I don't mean just old-school string of matches on a card with little or no reason (though that would help get SOME people some exposure), but it is really hard to fathom how, between A TEAM of people who are supposed to be creative, it takes all of them to make a tabloid "scandal" just to elevate Ziggler, and they have no ideas or direction for almost anyone else on the entire roster. Punk/Heyman, gods they are, can't carry the show. As popular as Cena is to kids and to haters, he can't carry the whole show. And to have all these extra people who HAVE TO travel from town to town, and they don't even get used is kinda stupid.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:36 AM   #38153
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I kind of miss the brand split.

I miss the days when Raw and SmackDown were in competition with each other and you actually felt like you were watching a different show when you watched Raw and SmackDown.

These days, when I watch SmackDown, I feel like I'm watching some kind of "spiritual successor" of that past Monday's Raw. Also, maybe it's just me but it feels like recently SmackDown has shown less matches and more Raw Recaps and SmackDown Recaps of the previous week. The same can be said for Superstars but I think I've already mentioned my thoughts on Superstars recently. Maybe that's one of the reasons why I like JBL on commentary on SmackDown. To me, he makes it feel like those days again when he says stuff like "This is what we do on Friday nights!" and his referencing to SmackDown as the "A Show" and all that.

Also, it doesn't help that sometimes you have the same guy wrestling on Raw and SmackDown. For example, you might see a Rey Mysterio match on Raw, then another one just four days later on SmackDown and then you sometimes get a recap of what Mysterio did just four days ago on Raw and you're left thinking something along the lines of "I've seen this stuff before this week". Sort of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat.

During the brand split, you would tune in to either show knowing who to expect and that would probably be why you would tune in. To see the guys you liked, and I don't know how to explain it but it would feel like that was "their turf" so to speak. It made it even more entertaining when they would appear on the other show unannounced. It would feel "weird" seeing them on the opposing show's stage for example. Then the Draft Lottery would happen and you would hope that the guys you liked being on a certain show, wouldn't be drafted or vice versa. Also the reaction you would give of a pick that you would think would be weird coming true, come true. For example, when J.R was drafted to SmackDown or when Carlito was drafted to Raw in 2005. You would think "What?" and it would be a "weird thought" thinking of them as being part of that brand and appearing on the show.

Now, it's a lot "calmer" these days. You tune in to a show and expect to see pretty much the same as what you saw on the other show.

I don't know, It's somewhat hard to put into words and maybe I'm not making much sense because of it, but it was a thought that came into my head just now and I felt like sharing it.
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I kind of miss the brand split.
With Punk out of TLC, if the brand split was still a "thing" it would make the PPV less of a wash having the WWE title out of it.

At this point the WHC seems no more important than the US and IC title and it is their own fault.
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I kind of miss the brand split.

I miss the days when Raw and SmackDown were in competition with each other and you actually felt like you were watching a different show when you watched Raw and SmackDown.

These days, when I watch SmackDown, I feel like I'm watching some kind of "spiritual successor" of that past Monday's Raw. Also, maybe it's just me but it feels like recently SmackDown has shown less matches and more Raw Recaps and SmackDown Recaps of the previous week.
I'd blame the mentality the WWE has for years in regards that almost all the effort has to be given to RAW and everything else is ignored or half-assed.

Its shown with the preference for recaps, draft, and "Supershows" were always meant to benefit RAW while Smackdown either was always rebuilding or got minimal attention.

The only benefit Smackdown got was since Vince and co didn't bother that much with the show, it could take the time to build new stars or even show off more wrestling in matches. That basically changed once the WWE sent Orton and decided Smackdown had to be just like RAW with their own "Cena" and recap-filled mess.
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