06-02-2011, 09:44 AM | #1 |
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According to Bischoff, we're all irrelevant.
From his twitter:
"Seems like 90% of the audience loves what the loudest 10% hates. So who really matters? The 10%er's can't get over the fact that they are irrelevant. Ratings don't lie. Research doesn't lie. IWC smarks need to get over it." ------------- Thanks Eric! |
06-02-2011, 09:57 AM | #2 |
Southern Hospitality
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The last time Bischoff was relevant was 1998
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06-02-2011, 10:00 AM | #3 |
Inno Knows.
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Nah, 97. The wheels were off the tracks in 1998 already.
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06-02-2011, 10:03 AM | #4 |
Cranky Kong
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He's using ratings as evidence that TNA is doing the right things? Really?
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06-02-2011, 10:23 AM | #5 |
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He's right.
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06-02-2011, 10:29 AM | #6 |
Cranky Kong
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He is sort of right in the way of not catering to smart marks, but he's delusional if he doesn't think that they have lots of work to do.
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06-02-2011, 10:30 AM | #7 |
Pelvic Sorcerer
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good
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06-02-2011, 11:17 AM | #8 |
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so if we are so irrelevant why is he taking time to address us via Twitter?
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06-02-2011, 11:19 AM | #9 |
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and to answer my own question...the internet is the most powerful marketing tool these days...so if the internet is down on your product and someone can google TNA and it takes them to a forum about how TNA sucks, it can influence that other 90% who cant think for themselves
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06-02-2011, 11:20 AM | #10 |
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Doesn't help when the 90% you cater too are mostly tards. So does that mean the show is retarded?
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06-02-2011, 11:23 AM | #11 |
"Ask him!"
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Bischoff is lost. Maybe back in 1996-98 the internet smarks weren't that important, but this is 2011 for Christ's sake. I'm willing to bet that more than 50% of TNA's most die-hard fans are all on the internet in some form or another - they read rajah.com, they all know who Ryan Clark is, and as legendkillerRKO said above, they read others' opinions about how TNA sucks all the fucking time.
This is not your grandma's world of wrestling. If he doesn't "get" that the internet is a major arena of opinions that a company like TNA should be using as an ADVANTAGE to start catering to what the fans are actually looking for, then he's really really lost. |
06-02-2011, 11:25 AM | #12 |
the heartbreak king
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pretty sure tough enough is getting better ratings than impact so it's all good.
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06-02-2011, 11:27 AM | #13 |
Da Gif/Pic Pimp
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I'd put money on that.
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06-02-2011, 11:30 AM | #14 |
b/c 5 is better than 4
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He's right, but a company could still target that 10% and make a shit-ton of money while doing it.....
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06-02-2011, 11:31 AM | #15 |
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Um, I don't think another "ECW" is gonna happen again, unless ROH shoots up out of nowhere.
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06-02-2011, 12:13 PM | #16 |
Voices Say I'm Awesome...
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Bischoff lost his water wings a LONG time ago... He's treading water with a lot of em at IMPACT and living off his millions... He can afford to tread where the young kids in TNA can't... tough stuff...
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06-02-2011, 12:20 PM | #17 |
It's a blood match!
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That 10% is about 40 or 50% of the Impact Wrestling audience, Bisch needs to smarten up a little bit. He clearly is a cancer to any wrestling company he works for. He's just in it for himself, in this case, probably to fund whatever venture he is getting into next with Jason Hervey.
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06-02-2011, 12:22 PM | #18 |
shisen sucks all the cock
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He is right. the #s for wwe and tna rarely fluctuate on a weekly basis. so the 10% who say tna sucks at everything they do, and the 10% who say christian got robbed, and that rey mysterio is the most annoying thing ever cannot change those ratings. if you turn off your tv they dont care. in fact they hate you even more cause you pirate all their shit for free and don't buy the masks at shopzone
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06-02-2011, 12:24 PM | #19 | |
It's a blood match!
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06-02-2011, 12:28 PM | #20 |
Feeling Oof-y
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Pretty sure WWE or TNA would shit themselves if thy had a suden 10% drop in ratings. The fact is, we "smarks" keep watching regardless, so that 10% of irrelevant whiners are still keeping the numbers up (even if they are poor) therefore they on't fluctuate.
Of course, there are IWC fans like me who watch all their wrestlng via YouTube and don't figure in the ratings but that is another point entirely. |
06-02-2011, 12:30 PM | #21 |
Feeling Oof-y
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C'mon man. That's bullshit. You'd suddenly start paying if the Attitude Era (quality wise) came back? I don't buy that for a second.
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06-02-2011, 12:36 PM | #22 |
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whats funny about this, is alot of times you have to dig deep to find a TNA ppv stream. and when you do, it is 99 percent of the time never shut down. the last wwe ppvs stream thankfully never got shutdown, but you can see the comparison between the products. i used to be so big on TNA before hogan and bischoff, i preferred it over wwe. now TNA is like those melissa ethridge sad animal abuse commercials, i just cant watch
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06-02-2011, 12:44 PM | #23 |
It's a blood match!
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Dig deep? Nah man, you go to Justin.tv any TNA PPV has a great stream there.
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06-02-2011, 12:44 PM | #24 |
It's a blood match!
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They don't hire people to shut them down like WWE does.
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06-02-2011, 02:16 PM | #25 |
We Want Sting!
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I don't know about 10% versus 50% in this case, but I do know that TNA's ratings haven't budged an inch since Bischoff has had anything to do with it.....so perhaps he is correct; ratings don't lie.
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06-02-2011, 02:54 PM | #26 |
Over Like Rover
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He's pretty much right. No idea why he feels the need to address it though.
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06-02-2011, 02:57 PM | #27 |
Da Gif/Pic Pimp
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Because he gets to hear himself talk about how smart he is compared to the rest of us.
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06-02-2011, 03:02 PM | #28 |
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He's very right about this. Especially in terms of hardcore vs casual-core audiences, and it applies to all forms of entertainment. Mentioning that he's past his prime, or how TNA sucks, doesn't really effect his point.
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06-02-2011, 03:06 PM | #29 |
I have standards.
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06-02-2011, 03:11 PM | #30 |
The Champ
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Thank You Eric Bishoff!!!
He is 100% right, but I don't know what he wants to accomplish. It's not like any of you are going to stop bitching about TNA. The flock of sheep that most of you are will say, and do pretty much anything that is "In" with most of the CUNTs on these boards. |
06-02-2011, 03:15 PM | #31 |
Enter If You Can
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Well, I think for the most part he is right. However, that 10% he talks about being irrelevant, well I am sure each one has two friends, and those two friends have two more. I am sure you all see where I am going with this, so the fact that he says we are irrelevant shows how he is irrelevant in the business world.
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06-02-2011, 03:23 PM | #32 |
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Doesn't matter - 10% is 10%, even though he's pulling that stat out his ass for conversation. It's hardcore minority vs majority fans.
Here: The loud minority needs to understand that business appeals to the majority. Case in point: WWE's return to a PG era. If they wanted to appeal to the hardcore minority Cena would still be freestyling as a heel, Punk would be champion as a face, Divas would be slutty again, and Heyman would still have a job. |
06-02-2011, 03:26 PM | #33 |
One and only
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I pretty much agree with Bischoff. He is just saying that you can't cater to the minority.
Also, I believe a lot of you think the IWC is larger than it is. I would say that 10% is being generous. Average wrestling fan watches on TV, might check WWE.com and that's it. A very small percentage of people spend their entire lives bitching on obscure wrestling forums such as this one. |
06-02-2011, 03:33 PM | #34 |
Over Like Rover
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Seriously. You see claims on the internet all the time, be it here, Youtube, Facebook, at shows and so forth that 'people want this', 'people want that', 'WWE don't know what they're doing' etc but most don't realize it's the very small minority and most of the actual paying audience are being catered for. There is also this sense of superiority when it comes to the perceived 'marks', the kids etc that they know so much more than them and so forth. These are the kind of people I have no qualms about pointing out how ridiculous they are.
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06-02-2011, 03:42 PM | #35 |
Loque Ja
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*Raucous Cheer*
Give us hell, Bischoff! |
06-02-2011, 04:18 PM | #36 |
Taller than Adam Cole
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I agree with what he says.
However, the problem that Bisch has is, of the 90% that make up the majority, 75% don't know that TNA even exists. I made up the last number, but it is like a major percentage. A lot of the "majority fans" HAVEN'T heard of TNA. They're watching the show of the majority, which is WWE. |
06-02-2011, 04:41 PM | #37 |
I'm a loner, Dottie...
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Wow is Bischoff serious? We don't matter? I'm willing to bet that I'm one of the few hundred or so people who actually watch TNA religiously and I'd bet that most who do are Wrestling nerds like me who wander these and other forums. Bischoff seems to think that he's running a WWE/WCW type show when in reality he's just trying to make a large ROH show more like those promotions. TNA was fun because it was different and that's why the few fans like myself actually watched it. We got to see guys who had real ring savy go at it in amazing matches. Bischoff wants to relive the 'glory days' and be a person at the top of a major company again problem is TNA has never and will never be that company. Stick to what your good at and put on fun entertaining matches for people who want an alternative to WWE style don't try to compete on their level because well that's just plain ignorant.
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06-02-2011, 06:18 PM | #38 |
Temporary
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Man for being so small and insignificant Bischoff sure seems to talk a lot about the IWC.
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06-02-2011, 08:59 PM | #39 |
MEIN FUHRER! I CAN WALK!
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Chico Marx: “What has a trunk but no key, weighs 2000 pounds, and lives in a circus?”
Prosecutor: “That’s irrelevant!” Chico: “Irrelevant! Hey, that’s the correct answer!” |
06-02-2011, 09:46 PM | #40 |
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Why, for the love of fuck, is this news??? Bischoff says this every six months, and it's posted and discussed as if nobody ever heard it before???
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