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Old 04-17-2015, 09:21 PM   #1
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So the WWE has been editing crowd reactions for Daniel Bryan

Yeah! As the title reads. I think it is borderline insulting!

I understand the following clip is from Smackdown and it is prone to a lot of editing, but take a look at the end of the video where the entire crowd erupts for D Bryan and the "yes chants" are somewhat washed out. What the fuck?

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Old 04-18-2015, 01:24 AM   #2
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Saw something today its also being done for ziggler and I think neville
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Old 04-18-2015, 01:32 AM   #3
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Saw something today its also being done for ziggler and I think neville
My question is why?
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Old 04-18-2015, 01:40 AM   #4
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No idea why wwe does anything they do
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Old 04-18-2015, 02:06 AM   #5
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My question is why?
Goes against whatever narrative or spot they think Ziggler and Neville belongs in at the moment. Ceasro last Monday is another example of his pop being way bigger than the WWE wants so they edited it to be for Orton instead.

With the exception of some moments, they've been doing stuff like that going as far back as mid-to-late Hogan era.
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Old 04-18-2015, 02:11 AM   #6
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Old 04-18-2015, 02:34 AM   #7
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There was a guy who posted here once. He came here to say he had been used as as a crowd member of a Smackdown he never went to. He did the thumbs down reaction at one Smackdown and they used it again for some reason as a reaction to Jack Swagger.
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Old 04-18-2015, 04:08 AM   #8
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Old 04-18-2015, 09:54 AM   #9
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Their last name isn't Cena or Reigns.
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Old 04-18-2015, 09:55 AM   #10
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Old 04-18-2015, 10:12 AM   #11
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I hate it when the WWE does this.
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Old 04-18-2015, 10:28 AM   #12
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piped in crowd noise? Edited crowds? Camera tricks showing a different crowd audience member on close ups?

WWE has done this for a long time. How is this new to anyone?
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:02 AM   #13
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piped in crowd noise? Edited crowds? Camera tricks showing a different crowd audience member on close ups?

WWE has done this for a long time. How is this new to anyone?
Exactly.
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:08 AM   #14
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Old 04-18-2015, 12:35 PM   #15
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piped in crowd noise? Edited crowds? Camera tricks showing a different crowd audience member on close ups?

WWE has done this for a long time. How is this new to anyone?
Its not that its news to me Its just the logic, you say that X can't get over X gets over and you cut his legs out from under him.

Then talk about how he isn't over
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Old 04-18-2015, 12:54 PM   #16
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Ya, it does not make any sense. You should want the wrestlers to get over so they can earn you more money. Even if you don't push Daniel Bryan to the main event if he is still super popular by all the crowds it will catch on and sell more merchandise.
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Ya, it does not make any sense. You should want the wrestlers to get over so they can earn you more money. Even if you don't push Daniel Bryan to the main event if he is still super popular by all the crowds it will catch on and sell more merchandise.

Which is why Jake the Snake Roberts, and Demolition were turned face because the crowds were getting behind them back in the 80's
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Old 04-18-2015, 06:04 PM   #18
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:54 PM   #19
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Maybe WWE are trying to "wean" fans off Daniel Bryan so that when he does have to retire early because of the injuries/future risk, they don't react badly etc?

Whatever the case the future is unfortunately not looking good at all for Daniel Bryan and some speculating he should at least keep going till WM 32.....he may decide to call it quits earlier. Maybe after Summer Slam this year.

A final match against Triple H, end the Authority at the event he first won the WWE title 2 years ago and then say good bye?

Rather that than watch him slide down the food chain ad be content with IC title feuds with Sheamus and Barrett.
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no way

next you're gonna try and tell me something crazy like piledrivers don't really drop guys on their heads or something
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Old 04-19-2015, 06:11 AM   #21
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Ya, it does not make any sense. You should want the wrestlers to get over so they can earn you more money. Even if you don't push Daniel Bryan to the main event if he is still super popular by all the crowds it will catch on and sell more merchandise.
Then again, the smarks won't just accept him as an upper-mid card guy and like to "protest" him not being in main events. So if they can do things to reel it back a little, it can help out the main event picture.
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Old 04-19-2015, 08:19 AM   #22
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Awwww man......
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Old 04-19-2015, 09:53 PM   #24
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Wouldn't that money and effort be better spent on a new T-shirt for the guy getting the cheers they don't want? At least that way, they actually get money out of the reaction.

Oh yeah, WWE hates money.
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Wouldn't that money and effort be better spent on a new T-shirt for the guy getting the cheers they don't want? At least that way, they actually get money out of the reaction.

Oh yeah, WWE hates money.
It's not that WWE hates money. It's that WWE as a public company no longer relies on their consumers for most of their financial "success". Most of WWE's success financially comes from the value of their stock.

Sure, they need their consumers to keep their stock prices at a certain value but burying one guy who's over (or getting over) isn't going to hurt your stock value. There's little to no incentive to risk going all in on a guy if you're not sure or for whatever reason don't think he'll make your stock price increase.

This is particularly true if you rely on a demographic (i.e., children) that doesn't "think for themselves" who will skew the numbers enough to show a steady revenue stream to keep your stock value stable. In comparison, prior to the success of Austin, Foley and Rock and WWE going public, WWE was nearly broke (and supposedly close to going under) there was great incentive for them to listen to their consumers and go with the guys who were most "over" with the crowds.

Long story short, WWE has less incentive to worry about their consumers or who's more "over" as long as they have enough sustained revenues to keep their stock value stable.
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Goes against whatever narrative or spot they think Ziggler and Neville belongs in at the moment. Ceasro last Monday is another example of his pop being way bigger than the WWE wants so they edited it to be for Orton instead.
Which is a refreshing change than what I assume is a canned pop for Orton with that same girly shriek at the beginning that comes at the exact same time evey ti e his music hits.
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Old 04-20-2015, 12:06 PM   #27
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It's not that WWE hates money. It's that WWE as a public company no longer relies on their consumers for most of their financial "success". Most of WWE's success financially comes from the value of their stock.

Sure, they need their consumers to keep their stock prices at a certain value but burying one guy who's over (or getting over) isn't going to hurt your stock value. There's little to no incentive to risk going all in on a guy if you're not sure or for whatever reason don't think he'll make your stock price increase.

This is particularly true if you rely on a demographic (i.e., children) that doesn't "think for themselves" who will skew the numbers enough to show a steady revenue stream to keep your stock value stable. In comparison, prior to the success of Austin, Foley and Rock and WWE going public, WWE was nearly broke (and supposedly close to going under) there was great incentive for them to listen to their consumers and go with the guys who were most "over" with the crowds.

Long story short, WWE has less incentive to worry about their consumers or who's more "over" as long as they have enough sustained revenues to keep their stock value stable.
Yet ANOTHER reason why I feel "Going Public" was the ruination of professional wrestling.
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Old 04-20-2015, 03:43 PM   #28
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piped in crowd noise? Edited crowds? Camera tricks showing a different crowd audience member on close ups?

WWE has done this for a long time. How is this new to anyone?
I find it ironic that they made fun of WCW for the same thing.
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