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Old 07-08-2004, 03:14 PM   #81
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It's made $192.1 million in seven days. If it makes another $8 million today, it'll beat the first Spider-Man in being the fastest film to hit $200 million.

For the record, I would go with Green Goblin II and The Lizard as the villains for the next movie.
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Old 07-08-2004, 04:38 PM   #82
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The cool thing is that they've already built Curt Conners. He's established, and ready to become a villain. I just wish they had actually introduced Brock at some point in this movie. We all know Venom's the most-wanted villain in the series, and we all know that they're gonna have to do up a movie invoilving him eventually, so they might as well lay the foundation.
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Old 07-08-2004, 04:55 PM   #83
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He wasn't really introduced, but it's been leaking on the internet that his name is in the movie. When the close-up of the newspaper article "Spider-Man No More" happens, in the lower right-hand corner, it says "Photograph by Eddie Brock."
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Old 07-08-2004, 05:00 PM   #84
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The cool thing is that they've already built Curt Conners. He's established, and ready to become a villain. I just wish they had actually introduced Brock at some point in this movie. We all know Venom's the most-wanted villain in the series, and we all know that they're gonna have to do up a movie invoilving him eventually, so they might as well lay the foundation.
what they should do is in the 3rd movie, Jameson's son will go into space and come back with the alien symbiote. All you have to do is establish Brock on the side and the 4th movie is all written.
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Old 07-08-2004, 05:20 PM   #85
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He wasn't really introduced, but it's been leaking on the internet that his name is in the movie. When the close-up of the newspaper article "Spider-Man No More" happens, in the lower right-hand corner, it says "Photograph by Eddie Brock."
It's going to take more than that to establish him, though.

Innovator's pretty much on it. I pointed out to my friend that JAmeson's how the symbiote was introduced in the cartoon. I mean, they have to pull it from somewhere, and I don't see the Secret Wars happening.
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Old 07-08-2004, 11:41 PM   #86
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Just got back from seeing it (staff preview whattup)

Pretty good, it had pretty much everything I wanted/expected out of it, and set up a third one nicely. Like Scot said too, it left me wanting more. I wanna see it again I think, i'll probably like it more when I do.

I was surprised by him unmasking in the train scene, and I was expecting Mary-Jane to either marry that astronaut guy, or just not bother with Spiderman, but it's a nice refreshing change to see them get together.

The action scenes were pretty awesome, and there were some funny parts too (where he tells the kids to eat their greens, and when he can't get a drink from the waiters)

Oh and Kirsten Dunst is fucking HOT.
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Old 07-09-2004, 12:36 AM   #87
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Kane, Kane, Kane, you are too impatient. I like the slow, deeper development that they seem to be pushing. No need to try and quickly introduce anyone. Venom IMO doesn't need to show up until like the 5th movie. Small trickles of character building in the third, more so in the fourth, like thy've done with Green Goblin, then in the 5th, bam. That's the formula they should use.

The only proble with that, like I said earlier is the degeneration of the Spiderman Series before getting that far. Hopefully it doesn't do a 'Batman' and turn to shit and/or loose it's main characters.
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Assuming they take it that far...

Also, I absolutely hate that, because somewhere down the road you just have to know that the actors are going to change, which sucks.
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Kane, Kane, Kane, you are too impatient. I like the slow, deeper development that they seem to be pushing. No need to try and quickly introduce anyone. Venom IMO doesn't need to show up until like the 5th movie. Small trickles of character building in the third, more so in the fourth, like thy've done with Green Goblin, then in the 5th, bam. That's the formula they should use.

The only proble with that, like I said earlier is the degeneration of the Spiderman Series before getting that far. Hopefully it doesn't do a 'Batman' and turn to shit and/or loose it's main characters.
Isn't it just gonna be a trilogy?
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Old 07-09-2004, 12:54 PM   #90
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Old 07-09-2004, 01:01 PM   #91
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Kane, Kane, Kane, you are too impatient. I like the slow, deeper development that they seem to be pushing. No need to try and quickly introduce anyone. Venom IMO doesn't need to show up until like the 5th movie. Small trickles of character building in the third, more so in the fourth, like thy've done with Green Goblin, then in the 5th, bam. That's the formula they should use.

The only proble with that, like I said earlier is the degeneration of the Spiderman Series before getting that far. Hopefully it doesn't do a 'Batman' and turn to shit and/or loose it's main characters.
I'm not impatient, I jsut know they're gonna buckle sooner rather than later, so they should put in some Brock shots so that when they pull Venom, it won't be out of the blue.
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Old 07-09-2004, 01:03 PM   #92
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I actually would prefer to not see Venom in the movies. He's got so many characters that would fit in better with the way Raimi's done the movies.
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Old 07-09-2004, 02:28 PM   #93
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Old 07-09-2004, 03:34 PM   #94
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Just saw it, finally. This movie kicked so much ass. Definitely the best of the summer and better than the first. And it is what every sequel should be. Keep it up Raimi, you da man.
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I forget which but some company has the rights to make Spider-Man 3 and 4 video games based off the movies series. I read it on 1up.com.
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Well I ended up with a day off on Canada Day and saw it during the afternoon. I must remember to stop seeing afternoon films that kids can get into.

Great movie. Amazing action sequences that I just dropped my jaw over. Good character development and the Tobey to CGI transition was almost flawless and it worked.

I have to say, in amongst all the action sequences - my favorite scene was still when Spiderman was in the elevator. Those that saw it know what I am referring to...
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There were many things in that movie that had no point. Like when he talked to that girl who gave him chocolate cake. Like WTF was that?
and that shit wasn't even chocolate cake. Some of the dialog was corny though, like when she was packing her things and in the tea shop.
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Old 07-10-2004, 03:16 PM   #99
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Personally, I'd like to see the Scorpion make his way into the next movie. THe most likely result will be a three way fight between Spiderman, Green Goblin, and another enemy thrown in to make the movie feel new.

Enemies I don't want to see: Black Cat, Rhyno, Kraven the Hunter, or the Kingpin (who has already made an appearance in Daredevil.)

Enemies I would like to see: Lizard, Hobgoblin, Scorpion, Vulture

Angles I'd enjoy: The black suit, Cameo of the Scarlet Spider, or the 4 Identity Crisis personas Spidey took on. (I forget their names off hand. Correct me if I'm wrong: Maverick, Riccochet, Prodegy and Dusk.)
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I just saw it, it was awesome.
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It was one of the best movies in a long time.

Though I don't like how Peter Parker's identity was revealed like that.
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Personally, I'd like to see the Scorpion make his way into the next movie. THe most likely result will be a three way fight between Spiderman, Green Goblin, and another enemy thrown in to make the movie feel new.

Enemies I don't want to see: Black Cat, Rhyno, Kraven the Hunter, or the Kingpin (who has already made an appearance in Daredevil.)

Enemies I would like to see: Lizard, Hobgoblin, Scorpion, Vulture

Angles I'd enjoy: The black suit, Cameo of the Scarlet Spider, or the 4 Identity Crisis personas Spidey took on. (I forget their names off hand. Correct me if I'm wrong: Maverick, Riccochet, Prodegy and Dusk.)
Electro or the Sandman would be pretty cool. The Scorpion too. I always thought the Rino and Vulture were uninteresting villians.
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was he the lizard?
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Old 07-10-2004, 09:32 PM   #105
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I would actually like to see Kraven as a minor character in 3 or 4, provided they use him like they did in the Ultimate comic series, where he's a "Croc Hunter"-type TV star who decides that he's going to bag Spider-Man for his next prize. He could even be hired by Harry while the Goblin thing builds to a climactic battle finale.
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There were many things in that movie that had no point. Like when he talked to that girl who gave him chocolate cake. Like WTF was that?
At that pont, my sister leaned over to my ear and whispered, "So... is that Gwen Stacy?"

I thought it was ridiculous, but... why not? Sure, she's not the sweetheart next door; Mary Jane already had that one covered. So maybe Raimi pulled a role reversal?

I liked that scene, though. It showed that Peter wasn't a total loser, and that there were possibilities of happy life without Mary Jane.
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On the Venom thing: I know we're all jonesing for it (myself and my brother and sister included), but I don't see it happening.

Someone already mentioned that Venom wouldn't fit Raimi's style.

The other thing is that the Spider-Man movies appeal to us modern comics age fans AND the older fans who haven't picked up a comic book in years (like, since the late '60's). Something tells me that they wouldn't like Venom.

Scorpion and "Croc Hunter" Kraven would be cool, though.
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Saw it today and loved every minute of it. It has a nice set up for the third one at the end. Great film
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At that pont, my sister leaned over to my ear and whispered, "So... is that Gwen Stacy?"

I thought it was ridiculous, but... why not? Sure, she's not the sweetheart next door; Mary Jane already had that one covered. So maybe Raimi pulled a role reversal?

I liked that scene, though. It showed that Peter wasn't a total loser, and that there were possibilities of happy life without Mary Jane.
Yeah my friend said "It showed that other people cared for him"

I guess that's kinda true.
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At that pont, my sister leaned over to my ear and whispered, "So... is that Gwen Stacy?"

I thought it was ridiculous, but... why not? Sure, she's not the sweetheart next door; Mary Jane already had that one covered. So maybe Raimi pulled a role reversal?

I liked that scene, though. It showed that Peter wasn't a total loser, and that there were possibilities of happy life without Mary Jane.
When I saw that scene, I was thinking "Damn that stupid Mary Jane bitch, with her damn astronaut boyfriend and supermodel shit." and at that point I started rooting for that other girl and I hoped that Peter would give up on Mary Jane....but if it was indeed Gwen Stacy, I'm wondering....didn't the Bugle secretary come first?
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Old 07-18-2004, 09:30 PM   #113
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Assuming they take it that far...

Also, I absolutely hate that, because somewhere down the road you just have to know that the actors are going to change, which sucks.

The actors have contracts for at LEAST 4 movies.
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Old 07-18-2004, 09:31 PM   #114
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Old 07-23-2004, 04:48 PM   #115
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Just saw it, finally. This movie kicked so much ass. Definitely the best of the summer and better than the first. And it is what every sequel should be. Keep it up Raimi, you da man.
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Old 07-23-2004, 08:03 PM   #116
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Saw it a couple of weeks ago. It was pretty good, better than the first.

Also saw a trailer for CatWoman, that looks baaaaad.
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Old 07-23-2004, 08:47 PM   #117
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Saw it last week. I thought it was ok, but nothing special.

Alfred Molina is the fucking man though. If there is one thing I wanted to see more of, it was Doc Ock.

Oh, and can someone please tell me how this Hobgoblin rumour started? It reminds me of the GTA Sin City rumour - Someone somewhere said it, and all of a sudden a bunch of people believe its official, even though no one has confirmed anything.

I don't like the idea of 2 of the 3 movies featuring the Green Goblin though. The next step in Harrys story consists of him going completly crazy, so either do that in #3 and have him become the GG in #4, or turn him in #3 but with one or two other super villains for Spidey to fight, like the Lizard or Scorpion.
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Old 07-25-2004, 02:59 PM   #118
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Ive now seen it and must say it was brilliant. The way they tied up all loose ends but also left it open for a third. Harry will change into the green goblin but i bet he doesnt play the major villain. It wont be venom as someone said he doesnt fit with the scheme. But i reckon it also wont be hobgoblin because it might confuse some people so id say the lizard, green goblin and vulture.
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Old 07-28-2004, 10:12 AM   #119
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Yeah I liked it.

The professor with one arm looks a bit dodgy, he's got super-villain written all over him.
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