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Old 09-07-2014, 10:49 PM   #1
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BREAKING: Brock Lesnar's opponent post John Cena
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Big Show is inline for a WWE Title Feud with Brock Lesnar after Night of Champions.

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the prophecy of the Big Show fall main-event push continues...

Fall 2011 - World Title push and feud with Mark Henry and Daniel Bryan.
Fall 2012 - World title push and feud with Alberto Del Rio and Sheamus.
Fall 2013 - WWE Title push and feud with Randy Orton and The Authority.
Fall 2014 - WWE World title push and feud with Brock Lesnar...
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Old 09-07-2014, 11:36 PM   #2
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Brock kinda leveled big show at the beginning of the year though.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:43 AM   #3
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Yeah, but that was long enough ago that it didn't happen.
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Old 09-08-2014, 01:15 AM   #4
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Old 09-08-2014, 07:21 AM   #5
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Big Show is a perfect choice. You need to build Brock up as a monster without hurting any young rising takent. Having him against Reigns, Cesaro, Ambrose just destroys their pushes. Think long term. Big Show can get destroyed but it doesn't hurt him at all because he's still the Big Show. Have Lesnar face Mark Henry or Sheamus next, guys who are big and mean, but Lesnar mows then down. Then you build a new face who ends up beating this unstoppable monster in the end. That's how you book Lesnar.
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:39 AM   #6
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Love Lesnar vs sheamus idea
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:39 AM   #7
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Let him tear through those guys, building a WHO WILL EVER STOP HIM angle

Enter reigns, Rollins, Ambrose or Bryan to win and get shot into the megasphere
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:43 AM   #8
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Love Big Show so this is good in my book. Brock vs Sheamus could be good also.
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Heath Slater will be the man to take out Lesnar.
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:57 AM   #10
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Big Show is a perfect choice. You need to build Brock up as a monster without hurting any young rising takent. Havibg him against Reigns, Cesaro, Ambrose just destroys their pushes. Think long term. Big Show can get destroyed but it doesn't hurt him at all because he's still the Big Show. Have Lesnar face Mark Henry or Sheamus next, guys who are big and mean, but Lesnar mows then down. Then you build and new face who ends up beating this unstoppable monster in the end. That's how you book Lesnar.
You know who should finally beat Lesnar?
SPOILER: show
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:58 AM   #11
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Old 09-08-2014, 10:01 AM   #12
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If Brock ran through everyone then FEED ME MORE hit the speakers and he came out doing his face routine, the crowd would eat it up
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Old 09-08-2014, 10:06 AM   #13
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I honestly don't hate this idea (Big Show vs Lesnar), maybe I'm crazy
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Old 09-08-2014, 10:37 AM   #14
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:46 AM   #15
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id rather not Big Show, but at Royal Rumble, Lesnar destroyed Show with a SOLID STEEL Chair before the match! So if that didnt happen Big Show would have better chances? maybe thats what WWE will do?
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:38 PM   #16
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Really hope Heyman comes out and goes into Brock taking the next ppv off because this is to easy. Then let the Big Show win some #1 contender match to start building him up to be a threat.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:57 PM   #17
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It should be Hardcore Holly.
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They're probably just saving Hardcore Holly for the Royal Rumble title match.
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Old 09-08-2014, 01:46 PM   #20
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Big Show is a perfect choice. You need to build Brock up as a monster without hurting any young rising takent. Having him against Reigns, Cesaro, Ambrose just destroys their pushes. Think long term. Big Show can get destroyed but it doesn't hurt him at all because he's still the Big Show. Have Lesnar face Mark Henry or Sheamus next, guys who are big and mean, but Lesnar mows then down. Then you build a new face who ends up beating this unstoppable monster in the end. That's how you book Lesnar.
He's a prefect choice in terms of protecting the rest of the roster. Not so perfect in terms of getting me hyped for the product.
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Yeah rather it be Henry, or if WWE decided it stand up to racism and didn't fire ADR it could have been him.
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Old 09-08-2014, 03:30 PM   #22
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More interested in how its going to impact the Henry-Show team. Probably just going to pull a "Reigns" and suddenly forget about his friend.

Doubt the WWE is going to keep those two together for the Lesnar feud.
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Old 09-08-2014, 03:32 PM   #23
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They could still team Show will have to do something on days Lesnar is not there.
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Old 09-08-2014, 05:38 PM   #24
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I was starting to like the "World's Strongest Show" tag team. Don't know why creative got a few good ideas going then scrap them within a couple of weeks.

No harm no foul I guess.
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Old 09-08-2014, 05:45 PM   #25
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Could have a loose alliance for the time being. Show feuds with Lesnar, Henry with Rusev, then, when both get beat, you have them team back up full time.
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Old 09-08-2014, 05:49 PM   #26
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Big Show is a perfect choice. You need to build Brock up as a monster without hurting any young rising takent. Having him against Reigns, Cesaro, Ambrose just destroys their pushes. Think long term. Big Show can get destroyed but it doesn't hurt him at all because he's still the Big Show. Have Lesnar face Mark Henry or Sheamus next, guys who are big and mean, but Lesnar mows then down. Then you build a new face who ends up beating this unstoppable monster in the end. That's how you book Lesnar.
You make a good point, Gerty, but my issue is that Big Show's already been destroyed by Lesnar. And not just beat up, but literally John Cena at Summerslam levels of destruction. Why would anyone tune in to see him fight Lesnar when they know full well he got eaten alive last time? It'd be like throwing Justin Gabriel at Lesnar in a main event PPV match at this point.

At least Henry never actually got a match with Lesnar. He'd be a far better choice in terms of credibility, but if he fights Rusev now and looses then he won't be credible either.

Overall I think WWE has just fucked up big time all together with this. Anyone who could be a threat to Lesnar has already been beaten by him now. I don't see how having him beat the same guys over is going to build him up.

I mean, I guess this is the best option, but it's not a "good" option.
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Old 09-08-2014, 05:58 PM   #27
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He's still the Big Show though. You can beat Big Show, Kane and Jericho 1000 times but they are still made guys. We have to think long term with this. Slow build towards a big blow off. They need time to build a face up just as they need time to continue to build Lesnar up. I'd go Big Show, then Mark Henry since they are tag partners, then Ryback who 'd turn face and go with Lesnar at the Rumble, then Sheamus since his gimmick is an ass kicker who confronts bullies, and then have your new face confront Lesnar in the ring in a non-match. Heyman can talk up "Brock beat all these guys, ended Takers streak, what chance do you have against my monster"Have Lesnar leave the face in a heap in the ring with the goal of "Lesnar just killed this guy, but he still wants a match? He's crazy". Have the blow off at Wrestlemania and bam, a star is made. It keeps Lesnar busy and allows the WWE to go in a variety of directions. It's simple booking with an amazing end result. Nothing complex.
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Old 09-08-2014, 05:59 PM   #28
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Old 09-08-2014, 06:06 PM   #29
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That scenario is pretty much bound to happen. Again, none of those guys are a serious threat to Lesnar, so it's 3 or 4 programmes that you know the outcome to before they even happen.

Building towards Reigns getting a big win at Mania is all well and good but it'll all be very easy to telegraph.
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He's still the Big Show though. You can beat Big Show, Kane and Jericho 1000 times but they are still madd guys. We have to think long term with this. Slow build towards a big blow off. They need time to build a face up just as they need time to continue to build Lesnar up. I'd go Big Show, then Mark Henry since they are tag partners, then Ryback who 'd turn face and go with Lesnar at the Rumble, then Sheamus since his gimmick is an ass kicker who confronts bullies, and then have your new face confront Lesnar in the ring in a non-match. Heyman can talk up "Brock beat all these guys, ended Takers streak, what chance do you have against my monster"Have Lesnar leave the face in a heap in the ring with the goal of "Lesnar just killed this guy, but he still wants a match? He's crazy". Have the blow off at Wrestlemania and bam, a star is made. It keeps Lesnar busy and allows the WWE to go in a variety of directions. It's simple booking with an amazing end result. Nothing complex.
That works, but it doesn't really help ratings in the meantime. I'll admit it's the only option at this point, but even you have to admit that it's not an ideal situation at all. Network will probably suffer from this whole ordeal until we hit 'Mania season and the new face pops up.
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That scenario is pretty much bound to happen. Again, none of those guys are a serious threat to Lesnar, so it's 3 or 4 programmes that you know the outcome to before they even happen.

Building towards Reigns getting a big win at Mania is all well and good but it'll all be very easy to telegraph.
Still REALLY hoping they don't give the Lesnar win to Reigns... Hell, as much as I disagree with Gertner most of the time I'd even take his boy Ryback over Reigns here.
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That works, but it doesn't really help ratings in the meantime. I'll admit it's the only option at this point, but even you have to admit that it's not an ideal situation at all. Network will probably suffer from this whole ordeal until we hit 'Mania season and the new face pops up.
It does though. Lesnar still has this mystique about him. People will tune into ppv's to see Lesnar kill people because he can do it in so many ways that you want to see how he does it.. We knew Ryback was going to destroy those jobbers when he debuted but people ate it up. We knew Goldberg was going to beat Jerry Flynn 100 times but his segments were the higheest drawing on Nitro. We knew Hogan was going to win every match but he was still selling arenas with the likes of Kamala.

On the other end you build a face to go up against Lesnar down the road by beating established heels like Kane, Orton, people like that. That's when you have him confront Lesnar at the end of a ppv with a face to face confrontation. Lesnar fucking kills him and leaves him nearly dead.

During this whole thing I'd have Rollins tease some cash ins or make some appearences with the briefcase just to add some unpredictability. There's really a wide variety of ways. Rollins could turn face down the line and catch fire with the added stipulations that he has the briefcase.
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It does though. Lesnar still has this mystique about him. People will tune into ppv's to see Lesnar kill people because he can do it in so many ways that you want to see how he does it.. We knew Ryback was going to destroy those jobbers when he debuted but people ate it up. We knew Goldberg was going to beat Jerry Flynn 100 times but his segments were the higheest drawing on Nitro. We knew Hogan was going to win every match but he was still selling arenas with the likes of Kamala.

On the other end you build a face to go up against Lesnar down the road by beating established heels like Kane, Orton, people like that. That's when you have him confront Lesnar at the end of a ppv with a face to face confrontation. Lesnar fucking kills him and leaves him nearly dead.

During this whole thing I'd have Rollins tease some cash ins or make some appearences with the briefcase just to add some unpredictability. There's really a wide variety of ways. Rollins could turn face down the line and catch fire with the added stipulations that he has the briefcase.
Eh, I'm less willing to believe today's audience will want to tune in just to see Lesnar destroy the same guys week-in-week-out, but I guess only time will tell. I just feel like in an age of iPhones and Flappy Birds it takes a lot more to hold people's attention, especially when those people are 10-12 year old boys.

As for your idea with Rollins, yeah, I could see that adding a bit of depth, but I really REALLY don't think Rollins should be the one to beat Lesnar. Of the three Shield boys he's the least interesting by far.

At this point I think the only realistic options are Reigns (god forbid), Ambrose, or possibly a returning Bryan. Ryback would have been perfect back during his initial face run, but honestly I don't see him being redeemable at this point at all. Not unless they repackage him or something. Doesn't even need to be a name change, just do something along the lines of HHH's transition into the Game.
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Old 09-08-2014, 06:41 PM   #34
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I still uncertain on who I'd have beat Lesnar, but that!s the beauty of starting now. You have a ton of time to try things.

Those 10-12 year old boys haven't seen Lesnar go n the warpath ppv after ppv. I'd also not have Lesnar appear on Raw. You could have some guy in a suit announcr on Raw that due to Lesnar's violent nature that he's too violent to wrestle on television because we don't know what he's going to do and he's too big a risk for the censors. Have video packages on Raw of Lesnar killing guys to promote his bad ass nature but edit them it a way where we only see the aftermath or glimpses of what he did on ppv. Kind of a " if that's what they CAN show us on tv, imagine what happened on the ppv, or how did Big Show end up unconscious. That also promotes the network. It may be the Big Show and Henry who he's destroyed before but I'd watch Lesnar fucking destroy them. Put them through tables, throw them off the stage, just fucking massacre them. Promote him as a killer to the point where you'd have to.be out of your mind to challenge him. It's old school booking, but I'd bet my last dollar that it would work.
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I guess maybe I'd be a LITTLE more accepting of Big Show facing Lesnar if Lesnar didn't just kill Show in a 2 minute squash match earlier this year. A Cena rematch works because he's John Cena. He's the man. We know that even if him winning the title back is far-fetched, there's some intrigue in how he's gonna respond to getting his ass kicked as the face of the company. Show on the other hand has been a jobber to the stars for most of the past decade. I don't really care to see how he responds to getting his ass handed to him in 2 minutes because... that's kinda just what he does. He puts others over. So he'll do it again.
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How about this, the dude to beat Lesnar is...

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I'd rather see Ambrose beat Lesnar than Reigns
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So Reigns beats Lesnar in a ME of WM , only to have Rollins come down and cash in?

By Mania, Ambrose will have finished his movie shoot and then had his "I'm BAAACK" feud with Rollins.
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Nooo do not put the title on reigns especially him beating brock that would be stupid
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I really disagree with this booking, if it does in fact come to light. Big Show has lost to Lesnar so many times it's absurd - during his first run, and again recently at the Rumble. What's the point of putting them against each other again? They're not entertaining matches and Show doesn't look remotely like a threat, no matter his size.

Brock already looks like a beast. He murdered John Cena AND ended the streak. It doesn't get much more beast than that. But Lesnar is still getting CHEERED. That's the problem. If the plan is to make a new megastar at WrestleMania in Roman Reigns, the fans need to hate Brock Lesnar by the time we get to that point in the story. That's the most important thing.

He already looks like a monster by beating Cena and Taker, but the fans aren't exactly 100% behind Cena these days, so it didn't do anything to make Lesnar hated. For some, it actually made him look kind of "cool."

They need to sacrifice some faces to the monster. Do an "underdog" story with Dolph Ziggler stepping up to challenge Lesnar at one of the lesser PPV's. The guy is crazy over. Have him get a one-up on Lesnar a couple times on RAW, and then have him get murdered by Brock at the PPV. Now the fans are booing.

Then put someone else in front of Lesnar - someone a little bigger, like Sheamus. Sheamus looks like he could not only fight Brock head to head in the size category, but he's also a former WWE and World Heavyweight Champion. Sheamus even nails Brock with the Brogue Kick a couple times. But then on the PPV, Brock murders Sheamus. And the fans are booing.

Then bring out the "big fish" - Daniel Bryan. The ultimate underdog story. Bryan returning from injury to reclaim what he never truly lost - the Undisputed WWE World Championship from the beast incarnate, Brock Lesnar. Bryan puts up a hell of a fight - more of a fight than Sheamus or Ziggler or Cena before him - but ultimately gets murdered by Brock Lesnar. Now the fans are really, really booing him.

And THEN Roman Reigns beats him for the WWE World Title at WrestleMania.
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