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Old 08-11-2008, 03:46 AM   #881
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Old 08-11-2008, 04:25 AM   #882
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Old 08-11-2008, 04:52 AM   #883
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Old 08-12-2008, 06:28 PM   #885
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That's still better than Batman & Robin.

Speaking of the Boy Wonder...

IGN has this article talking about how Robin could be adapted into the Nolan-verse. They were on the money until they suggested a 14-16yo Robin. That's much too young, but otherwise it was a good read. My thoughts on Robin in the Nolan-verse? Glad you asked.

- He's gotta be 16-18, model him after Batman Beyond's Terry McGuinnes, and for the sake of the mythology - choose Dick Grayson (called Richard Grayson in film).
- Dump the circus shit, its just not gonna fly. This Robin should merge elements of Dick, Tim, Jason, and Terry; tossing out the silly funny-books stuff and keeping what works for this series. I'm thinking streetwise kid in the middle ground between participating in Gotham's underworld, or fighting it.
- His parents should die in the pettiest way imaginable, a true tragedy at the hands of some thugs (Tony Zucco, Joker Copy-Cats?). In some way, Batman should be responsible however inadvertent. We can have Richard blame Batman; their relationship should open with tension.
- As to why Bruce takes in the kid... Perhaps Bruce learns that Richard lost it all along with his parents during Batman's battle with some badguys. The least he could do is take him in for a while. It should be emphasized that Bruce doesn't want Richard around forever; at this point he'd believe people close to him aren't that safe.
- Perhaps ironically Richard makes the decision to take on crime, just like Batman, but he comes up with the thought without Bruce's influence. Whatever the case, Bruce has to train Richard very much like Ras trained him. The similarities should be eerily similar, making Bruce wonder if he ended up like Ras after all.
- Bruce should initially keep Richard out of action. He's a 'killer outlaw' now, so his rooftop visitations aren't happening anymore. But with a messenger, a carrier pigeon kind of helper... a Robin if you will, he could communicate with Gordon without risking his own image (or Gordon's). Hell, have Robin avoid any kind of action - keep it all Batman. As a crime fighter, Robin should have a minimal role... a scout or something like that.
- The loud colors of the classic suit, and even the updated red post-Crisis suit, won't work. If Bruce has anything to say about it he'll be in a black combat suit (provided by Fox ofcourse). The convo scenes regarding the suit with Fox - as always - could be where some fun lines could creep in:

Bruce: I need another suit... for a friend.
Fox: ...A friend?
Bruce: A younger friend.
Fox: Never saw you having co-workers alongside yourself, Mr. Wayne-
Bruce: He won't be alongside me. He's something of an informer... like a carrier pigeon.
Fox: A Robin.
Bruce: What?
Fox(Smile): Robin's were used back in those days, not pigeon's Mr. Wayne.
Bruce(Smirk): Fair enough.
Fox: There's been equipment built for scouting and reconnaissance blah blah smart talk blah blah that boy's a wonder blah blah.

You get the idea.

The suit shouldn't have the bare arms thing, he should all covered. The only thing I'm hung up on is whether he should have the face mask, some kind of helmet thing like Batman, or nothing at all. Being trained by Bruce, he'll have the ninja scallops on his wrist as well, but ditch the cape. Scouts don't need capes.

That's a Robin I'd dig onscreen.
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:34 PM   #886
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I liked everything up to the costume changes.

But with the way The Dark Knight ended, I just don't see them going for Robin in the third one, or at all. The next one is going to be even bigger than TDK. I can already see a 20 minute chase sequence: Gotham Police/SWAT/National Guard vs. Batman.

I'd also like to see The Riddler in there, and have the climax of the film take place inside of a giant maze in an old amusement park, rigged with traps and crazy shit.
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A maze like that episode of...

The Adventures of Batman & Robin?

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Has to be the riddler. You could do more with him than any other villain yet remaining.

I love Black Mask, but I don't think he would work by himself. Besides, no one but comic geeks like me know who he is.
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Old 08-12-2008, 10:13 PM   #889
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Has to be the riddler. You could do more with him than any other villain yet remaining.

I love Black Mask, but I don't think he would work by himself. Besides, no one but comic geeks like me know who he is.
I think that's part of the appeal. They are free to really do their own thing with the interpretation. They can really do something new.
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:47 PM   #890
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Ra's Al Ghul wasn't really well known by non-comic fans either.
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:49 PM   #891
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Has to be the riddler. You could do more with him than any other villain yet remaining.

I love Black Mask, but I don't think he would work by himself. Besides, no one but comic geeks like me know who he is.
Honestly, how many non-comic geeks had heard about Scarecrow before the first movie?

At this point Batman is selling on the fact that it's done by Nolan and, well, it's Batman. They could use any character ever, and even create a new one (NOT SAYING THEY SHOULD DO THAT) and I would have faith in Nolan doing something spectacular with it.
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:17 AM   #892
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I love Two Face historically, and while I would love him in the 3rd, I think he is well done in this film.

I don't think he is rushed at all. I think that he is a NEW Two face, and most people think of their pre-conceived portrayals.

This Two Face is not a Super Villain. He is Harvey Dent. Not even really an alter ego, just a nickname he already had.

Dent was to be the Hero that people can follow, the public figure, and Batman saw him as a way to end his work. Wayne knew he could never be with Dawes until Batman was gone, and Dent was his ticket to that goal. Dent could lead the people how Batman couldnt.

But after Dawes Death, he snaps, and all they were working for was lost. He kills those who he feels are responsible for Rachel's death (The Corrupt Cops, and Gordon, who he blames for trusting corrupt cops, despite his constant pleas). His deeds are not from evil, but revenge.

What role could he really play in the 3rd? If he comes back as an anti-batman villain, they completely change his character and what he meant to TDK. I also see no need for an entire 3rd movie arc about his continued pursuit of revenge against Gordon.

I like where the movie ends.

The Joker did all he could to ruin what Dent/Batman were trying to do. And while he was able to corrupt Dent, Batman has taken the blame, and saved the city. And by Dent dying, he still can serve as the White Knight the city needed.

So all is well. Batman still is not the hero of the people, but he doesnt not want to be that. He is their Dark Knight. If Dent comes back, the entire ending of this movie becomes worthless.
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:15 AM   #893
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Am I the only one that can see the third being a villain helping the City to hunt down Batman while at the same time being a corrupt official type?

Seem to be an easy/logical way to go. Having said that, probably shit compared to how good TDK's plot was.
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Old 08-13-2008, 01:53 PM   #894
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That makes sense Mackem.

Maybe someone who has an agenda against Batman/Bruce Wayne, is there to avenge Dent, stop batman, but behind the scenes is robbing the city blind/extorting control.

I just dont know who they could use (Obviously any known villain will need to be very altered to fit this new vision, as a Riddler or Penguin kind of sucks on paper)

Who reads the Graphic novels? Who are the villains there? What are they like?
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Seem to be an easy/logical way to go. Having said that, probably shit compared to how good TDK's plot was.
Isn't that the Riddler's modern persona? A criminal who actually helps the police.

A la Dexter...
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Riddler is currently a private detective who works on the side of good, but plays to the media and makes money from it and all that. But so far he hasn't really shown that he is still a criminal.
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Dont know if this is real, I think its too soon, so it is probably fan art. But Damn, I like it.



Someone made a post in a movie forum I go to about the Villain being the city in the 3rd film, it was something like...

In Begins he fights to save the city's lives, in the 2nd he fights for the souls of the city, and in the 3rd he will fight the very people he protects.

Could make sense. He is now thought of as a Villain, and to go with The Mackem, maybe the Riddler is a genius(always) obsessed with Batman, and ascends to power in the city trying to catch him.
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Old 08-14-2008, 08:15 AM   #899
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Guess it makes sense that someone who is hellbent on finding 'The Batman' could be voted into power as a kinda kneejerk reaction to the events of TDK.

That poster is quality - especially if it is fan art.

Also, has anyone seen The Dark Knight anime DVD? Costs £10 over here, might be worth a purchase.
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Definitly a fake, but one of the best fakes I've ever seen. Love the writing on riddler's hands. Nice touch.
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That poster is quality - especially if it is fan art.

Also, has anyone seen The Dark Knight anime DVD? Costs £10 over here, might be worth a purchase.
If you mean Gotham Knight I thought it was very average.
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Old 08-17-2008, 03:40 AM   #905
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Old 08-17-2008, 03:40 AM   #906
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Old 08-17-2008, 05:17 AM   #907
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that would be pretty damn interesting.
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Old 08-17-2008, 11:36 AM   #908
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Old 08-17-2008, 01:11 PM   #909
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HArley Quinn, right? Guess that could play off the Joker, but since his character is still alive, but Ledger is dead, dunno if they will ever bring anything like that in.

Man, peeps have great Photo shop skills, they need to go work for the real companies.
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Old 08-17-2008, 02:15 PM   #910
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Old 08-17-2008, 02:37 PM   #911
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Gotham City is a terrible name for a Batman film jus so you don't get too exicted lol
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Old 08-17-2008, 06:56 PM   #912
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I don't think they'd use the Joker so soon again for the next film (nor his daughter)... while it will be worth revisiting down the line and possibly recasting Joker, it shouldn't be as soon as the next film or it will just be seen as a rehash.
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Old 08-17-2008, 06:57 PM   #913
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Plus with Ledger's Joker being so young, his daughter, if he had one, would surely be little more than a child.
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:50 PM   #914
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I think that poster was supposed to Harley Quinn and not The Joker's Daughter (who wasn't even really The Joker's daughter)
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Oh.

Is Harley Quinn not the Joker's daughter?

I'm not the most knowledgable person when it comes to the comic book storylines, but I'm sure that the next installment in the Burton/Schumacher franchise was to have Harley Quinn as the Joker's daughter, with Nicholson returning, before it was axed.

Playing the artistic liberty card again were they?
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Harley Quinn was Joker's psychiatrist in Arkham Asylum. She tried to cure him through dozens and dozens of sessions, but in the end, he ended up "curing" her, warping her mind and turning her into his most trusted and valuable partner in crime.
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Old 08-17-2008, 10:51 PM   #917
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In fact, here is a 20 minute summary that should answer all your Harley Quinn origin questions:



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Old 08-17-2008, 11:34 PM   #918
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