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Old 07-31-2012, 07:30 PM   #1121
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When Bane says he is born there, isn't that just part of the deception hiding Miranda's true identity. Also, the men in the prison skate around the identity of the child without revealing who it was. That was my interpretation. When you re-evaluate that the kid was the girl and Bane is not Ra's Al Ghul's kid it makes you see Bane as just another criminal that happened to be in the prison.

His effectiveness in the dark being simply his League of Shadows training, possibly.
The caregiver does sau Bane was born there, and starts to explain Banes condition, which resulted from protecting/helping young Talia. He cuts himself off due to feeling Bane, whonow runs the prison, wouldnt want anyone to know his story. He was born and raised there. Talia was born there, but only spent a small percentage of her life there due to escaping and finding her fathet. I dont think amything Bane said during his play-by-playbeat down of Batman was done to fool Bruce. He pretty much revealed his whole plan to Bruce. The only thing he held back was Talia's true identity for fairly obvious,reasons.
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Old 08-01-2012, 07:58 AM   #1122
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The caregiver does sau Bane was born there, and starts to explain Banes condition, which resulted from protecting/helping young Talia. He cuts himself off due to feeling Bane, whonow runs the prison, wouldnt want anyone to know his story. He was born and raised there. Talia was born there, but only spent a small percentage of her life there due to escaping and finding her fathet. I dont think amything Bane said during his play-by-playbeat down of Batman was done to fool Bruce. He pretty much revealed his whole plan to Bruce. The only thing he held back was Talia's true identity for fairly obvious,reasons.
See, I'm not so sure.

When Wayne was talking about 'Bane', the others would talk about 'the child' seemingly deliberately not gender specific even though at the time you would be assuming they meant a boy.

Bane's comments when fighting Batman could be either; misdirection, truth or even metaphoric (he was technically born there in his new guise, as Bane, with the mask).
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:27 AM   #1123
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no if you see it again you will see the caregivers talk about bane and the child differently.

bruce brings up bane when talking about the child and the caregivers change the subject.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:28 PM   #1124
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It seemed like a male exclusive prison with the woman's insertion a bit of a 'big deal' leading to her rape/murder. If Bane was born there, maybe his mother suffered the same fate but it just seems a bit too much of a stretch but I won't rule it out.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:36 PM   #1125
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Bane's backstory doesn't all add up, even in his own words.

Whilst fighting Batman in the sewers he says that he was "Born in the dark" and that he "didn't see the light until he was a grown man". However, he also explains that the design of the prison includes the ability to see the sky (and therefore the light) as a way to create (false) hope - as he intends to do in Gotham.

Might be going to see it again tonight, I'll be sure to pay extra attention to the explanation of Bane's birth/life.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:54 PM   #1126
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You can still find that a prison like that is 'dark', in more ways than actual luminous. A lot of the dialogue is meta like that.
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:20 PM   #1128
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People reading way into stuff that actually had really simple answers.
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:26 PM   #1129
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I find looking God knows how many feet up at a hole in the ceiling different than actual being in sunlivht, which is what i took as what Bane meant.
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:32 PM   #1130
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Maybe the hole used to have a cover on it.
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I think the whole looking up at the light at the end of the tunnel thing is a metaphor for Nolan's homosexuality. That's what I got from it anyway.
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:27 PM   #1132
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:35 PM   #1133
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Old 08-01-2012, 04:43 PM   #1134
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When Commissioner Gordon asks who Batman really is and Batman gives him the story, Gordon should have said 'I still don't have a fucking clue!'
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Why in God's name would he say that? Batman made it clear as day.
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Old 08-01-2012, 04:50 PM   #1137
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The kid has a significant history with the city, and his parents death was a high profile murder. Not hard to think Gordon would remember such a huge tragedy that had all sorts of implications directly effecting the city.
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Old 08-01-2012, 05:16 PM   #1139
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They were regularly getting supplies. Thats probably how
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I've just been trying to find some sort of script or dialogue in the prison without any luck but it led me to this. Glad I'm not the only one not getting certain aspects although I don't agree with everything in the article on all of the separate pages.

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Multiple Ending Syndrome - At least at the end of Return of the King, each ending got room to breathe. Here, within the span of five minutes, we’re supposed to process the following: 1) Batman dies in a blaze of glory, 2) Bruce Wayne donates all of his remaining assets to the betterment of children, tying up Blake’s storyline, 3) Bruce Wayne apparently figured out how to program the autopilot on The Bat? 4) Bruce Wayne survived the crash and is now enjoying a beautiful life in lord-knows-where with Selina Kyle, 5) Alfred is totally cool with all this, and does not lose his shit at all when he finds this out. 6) John Blake takes up the mantle as Batman, with no training, no resources or mentor. Also, no one notices that Bruce Wayne and Batman disappeared at the same time. WHAT?!
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Old 08-02-2012, 05:38 AM   #1146
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:00 AM   #1147
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Bane wasn't muscular enough, should've got a wrestler to portray him. Batista does films now doesn't he? Would've been a much better choice imo.
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IF THE COPS WERE REALLY UNDERGROUND FOR THAT LONG THEN HOW COME NONE OF THEM GREW FACIAL HAIR?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
They had supplies. Hell I think those Chilian miners were.shaving and.throwing raves when they were stuck last year.
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:18 AM   #1150
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Bane wasn't muscular enough, should've got a wrestler to portray him. Batista does films now doesn't he? Would've been a much better choice imo.
Ya serious?
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:03 AM   #1151
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Imagine a Batista Bomb on Batman instead of the back breaker- thing of beauty it would have been!
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:33 AM   #1152
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Old 08-02-2012, 11:07 AM   #1153
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The Rock also would've been a fine choice. They made Kingpin black so why not Bane?
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Old 08-02-2012, 11:11 AM   #1154
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Actually that would have worked fine, since Bane's nationality leaves room for skin color changes.
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Old 08-02-2012, 12:13 PM   #1155
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KalyX the black supremacist would want Bane to be black.

Well, fuck you, guy, how bout Eskimo?

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On the flipside though Liam Neeson also trained Obi-Wan and Batman so he kinda comes out on top in the end.
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On the flipside though Liam Neeson also trained Obi-Wan and Batman so he kinda comes out on top in the end.
Yeah, but people keep kidnapping his family...
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