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Old 12-18-2003, 02:10 AM   #41
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How many times did that film end!? Great film. Fellowship is still the best.

I might be wrong, but isn't Gandalf supposed to kill the Witch King?

Nah, Eowyn and Merry kind of both kill him in the book. He says that a man can't kill him, although Gandalf's not really a man either but still.
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Old 12-18-2003, 02:11 AM   #42
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I thought the Fellowship dragged, exactly like the book does. It doesn't get good until after the half way mark.
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Old 12-18-2003, 02:36 AM   #43
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I really really enjoyed it. It was amazing as all 3 were. But I tell ya poor Sam gets no respect.
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Old 12-18-2003, 03:05 AM   #44
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I loved it

Got to love the heel turn at the end

And then back to the face turn
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Old 12-18-2003, 04:01 AM   #45
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I hope they sent Triumph to the premiere.
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Old 12-18-2003, 04:51 AM   #46
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I don't know why I waited so long to watch those movies. LotR is one of the best ****ing trilogies I've seen. I gotta see Return Of The King again.
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Hot damn did it rule, I saw it at 7 last night. While I bought my tickets early (two days), and got there like an hour early, the line to get in the theater itself strerched half way across the theater.
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Old 12-18-2003, 12:14 PM   #48
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Yeah I saw it at 10.30 yesterday morning, when I came out there was a queue all through the cinema to the doors waiting to go into the next screening

-edit- Apparently it's done $8m from the midnight screenings on opening day alone
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Old 12-18-2003, 03:14 PM   #49
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I haven't seen the first one yet, but I've seen the second one like 3 times.

I do wanna see the first one before I see the 3rd one, but I was able to get the idea of exactly what was going on anyway in the 2nd one.

I've heard so many good things about the ROTK, now I can't wait to see it.

It actually got a rather poor review in the SF Chronicle, but they also said that Speed 2 was one of the best movies of its year, and thusly, I don't really give their reviews a care.
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wtf, no Saruman. What were they smoking when they didnt conclude what happened to him.
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Big Kev, look for the extended version in November. It's gonna clear a lot of storylines up that the theatrical version couldn't, due to time constraints.
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That rocked.

Gonna see it again Christmas Eve, prolly.

But its a tie between that and Two Towers.

Not enough Faramir or Pippin in either of those.

No Eomer speaking lines.
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Old 12-18-2003, 05:52 PM   #53
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No Eomer speaking lines.


Off the top of my head, when the Rohan are camped out and he and Eowyn talk about why he thinks Pippen shouldn't go into the battle.

Aso the line after the Minas Tirith battle when they're planning the assault on Mordor it's him who says something like "We cannot win by force of arms alone"

..and there were others (just can't remember the details)
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Old 12-18-2003, 06:18 PM   #54
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Off the top of my head, when the Rohan are camped out and he and Eowyn talk about why he thinks Pippen shouldn't go into the battle.
Haha, that's where one of my favorite lines from the movie comes from. He says something along the lines of "I don't doubt the strength of his heart, it's the reach of his arms."
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Old 12-18-2003, 06:27 PM   #55
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Old 12-19-2003, 10:18 PM   #56
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God movie. Better than Two Towers, although

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the end with Frodo having to leave was kind of WTF

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Old 12-20-2003, 03:31 AM   #57
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God movie. Better than Two Towers, although

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the end with Frodo having to leave was kind of WTF

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still really good.
That part of the end is mostly a reflection by Tolkein on the effects of war on people. Since he served in WWI he saw a lot of people he served with in the aftermath not able to readjust to a 'normal' life. Frodo doesn't *have* to leave, he simply chooses to.
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Old 12-20-2003, 03:48 AM   #58
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That part of the end is mostly a reflection by Tolkein on the effects of war on people. Since he served in WWI he saw a lot of people he served with in the aftermath not able to readjust to a 'normal' life. Frodo doesn't *have* to leave, he simply chooses to.
That might make sense, if Frodo had actually been involved in some of the big battles. He was in one battle in the first movie with that huge ass orc, other than that I can't recall any he was in. WHEREAS some of the other people staying behind were involved in a lot more than that.
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Old 12-20-2003, 05:43 AM   #59
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That might make sense, if Frodo had actually been involved in some of the big battles. He was in one battle in the first movie with that huge ass orc, other than that I can't recall any he was in. WHEREAS some of the other people staying behind were involved in a lot more than that.
Carrying the ring pretty much destroyed him though...
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Old 12-20-2003, 01:43 PM   #60
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Yeah I saw it. It was very good. Just lost feeling in my as about halfway through.
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Old 12-20-2003, 02:36 PM   #61
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Old 12-20-2003, 02:38 PM   #62
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so where did gandalf and frodo go in the end exactly?
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Without goin into too much detail on the complete backstory, to the west is where the Elves originally came from and is where the Gods of the world live. Basically it's Paradise, pretty much, more or less what Gandalf describes inside Minas Tirith in the scene with Merry.
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I felt sorry for Sam when Gollum framed him with the bread, and Frodo said he didn't need him anymore, and Sam was crying as Frodo walked off. Poor old Sam Sam deserved more recognition than Frodo. He protected Frodo, carried him up the mountain .etc. Frodo did nothing in return Very good movie though, I'll probably watch it again soon.
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Carrying the ring pretty much destroyed him though...
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wtf, no Saruman. What were they smoking when they didnt conclude what happened to him.
One rumour was that Christopher Lee kicked up some kind of stink and made out that the film would be nothing without him, so they cut his scene. More likely it was just to do with time. It was pretty stupid the way they found the Palantir in the water, but I've got faith in the extended DVD.
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Yeah it was really good but the end after the ring was destroyed dragged majorly, really good movie, although this was the worst of the three as far as acting goes (with the exception of Sam and Gandolf). Frodo was very unatural with many of his lines and it was just weak. But oh well, still a great great movie. Oh and one more thing, did we need all that fighting? We got and hour in the last one did we really need another?
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I thought it was really good, there was a few things I didn't get though. Like what that thing they found in the water was.

And yeah, the acting when Frodo woke up and was laughing and greeting everybody was a little weird.
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I thought it was really good, there was a few things I didn't get though. Like what that thing they found in the water was.

And yeah, the acting when Frodo woke up and was laughing and greeting everybody was a little weird.
I was expecting a hobbit orgy any minute.
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I thought it was really good, there was a few things I didn't get though. Like what that thing they found in the water was.
Do you mean at the beginning where Smeagol's friend finds the ring?
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I thought it was really good, there was a few things I didn't get though. Like what that thing they found in the water was.

And yeah, the acting when Frodo woke up and was laughing and greeting everybody was a little weird.
Oh yeah, the palentir (sp)...it's from the first movie, it's the crystal ball type thing Saruman uses to communicate with Sauron. I think that should be explained a bit more in the extended edition...
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Amazing film. a few random notes
- at the part of the beginning with Smeagol and Deagol fishing.
- at Legolas destroying the giant elephant thing and everyone on it and Gimli saying, "that still only counts as one"
-Lord of the Nazgul=King Bad Ass
- at Frodo's treatment of Sam. Jerk.
-Battle of Pellenor Fields-
-Army of the Dead-Cool special effect. Eagles and Fell Beasts-cooler special effect. Shelob-coolest special effect.
-best performances-Viggo Mortensen, Sean Astin, Billy Boyd, Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis
-Best tear jerking moment-Aragorn: [to hobbits as they bow to him] My friends... you bow to no one. [Everyone bows to the hobbits]

Too bad there weren't more books. I could see a hundred more of these films.
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I can understand them bowing to Frodo and Sam, but why Merry and Pippin?
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I can understand them bowing to Frodo and Sam, but why Merry and Pippin?
You just can't say, MERRY PIPPIN GO AWAY. thats why
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Old 12-21-2003, 09:21 PM   #76
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You just can't say, MERRY PIPPIN GO AWAY. thats why
Aragorn could have said, "Hey, look! Longbottom leaf!" Then, when Merry and Pippin turned and said "Where? Where?" everybody bows real quick to Frodo and Sam, then stands back up. When Merry and Pippin turn back around, Aragorn shrugs and says "Oh. Sorry. My mistake."
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Old 12-21-2003, 11:31 PM   #77
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AWESOME movie.

Words cannot describe it.(Well, they can )

I dont think the ending dragged. It was done very well. I wouldnt want some shoddy ending where you dont know what happens with the characters. Very nice.

This one is the best. Frodo cant act? LOL

He didnt need lines to act. He did it all in his struggle to get the ring across. Man, tear jerking movie.
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Old 12-21-2003, 11:39 PM   #78
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Old 12-22-2003, 11:45 AM   #79
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Oh my god. After reading this topic, I'm completely dumbfounded.

How many of you actually read the book?! I saw maybe one....maybe.

1)The beginning with Smeagol and his brother was great.
2)The acting lacked majorly. Frodo over-dramatized the ring's effect on him. He just...lacked overall.
3)The lack of Sarumon. They never did explain what happened to him.
4)Aragorn. The man is the king of Gondor, yes. Seriously, think about it though. If some random jackass came up to you and said "I am your king, bow", would you? No. They left out the whole Kingsfoil part. In the book, when Faramir is injured, after they take him out of the place where they're going to burn him, Aragorn comes in to save him. He asks for Kingsfoil, and a random person around him says "That's a weed. Only the King can use it to heal somebody", they get the kingsfoil, he uses it, and saves Faramir.
5)Faramir and Eowyn's romance: At the end, it just shows them together. It doesn't show them getting married, nor the romance between them. That is a huge plot point. Faramir of Gondor and Eowyn of Rohan getting married ties the two nations together.
6)The Gray Havens: They only showed the last boat going, which is like the book described. First off, Ciridan the Shipwright didn't have a beard. He is the only Elf in Tolkien's books that has a beard, and they didn't show him with one. Frodo also failed to mention that he left Bag End to Sam and Rosie.
7)Bag End: At the end of the movie, once the Elven leaders, Gandalf, Frodo and Bilbo leave for the Havens, Sam and Rosie are supposed to be living in Bag End. Sam/Rosie lived in Bag End with Frodo for the years after the War, but it wasn't Bag End that Sam/Rosie lived in at the end.
8)Aragorn: ---edit--I stand corrected --end edit--
9)Arwen and Elrond: They never mentioned in the movie that Elrond, Arwen, and Elthend (did I spell that right?!) were all half-Elven. They have to make a choice whether to live the mortal life, or an immortal Elven life. Elrond picked an Elven life, so his children (Arwen and Elthend) had to make a choice. Arwen chose mortal life, and Elthend chose Elven and left to the Havens as well.
10)Legolas: Peter Jackson did a great job covering a hole in Tolkein's writings. Legolas Greenleaf is the only Elf in the books to have a last name. All other Elves have a special thing to go around thier names, but they are all Royalty. True, but so is Legoals. Galadriel and Celeborn are the Lady and Lord of the Wood. Master Elrond is the lord of Rivendell, with Arwen being the Lady of Rivendell. Legolas Greenleaf is the Prince of the Elven Relm near Mirkwood, Yet he is the only Elf to have a last name.

Overall: This was a great trilogy. Peter Jackson has balls, and it was either a hit-or-miss situation, and he definitly hit. I'm looking forward to the extended version DVD of the movie, to see if these scenes were actually filmed or if they were just cut. After 3 years of rigorous filming, interpreting, and battlescene after battlescene, Jackson made a set of books into a Glorious thing. Now, he just needs to do the same to "The Hobbit" and possibly the Samarillion. 8/10
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Just saw the final film of the Lord of the Rings trilogy just last Saturday afternoon. It is a 3 hour and twenty minute film but to me it didn't seem like it was all that long. The movie went by kind of fast in my book.
I really liked the movie, as I've said before, but I have to admit that this was the only movie out of the 3 that I really noticed how long I'd been sitting in the theatre. I was very aware of how long it was taking the whole time. That's not really a complaint though, the movie was still amazing.
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