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Old 12-29-2014, 11:19 PM   #241
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So we go from a mega high of Daniel Bryan to a mega low of The Authority back in power...
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:23 PM   #242
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The only thing better would have been if after Cena gave in Edge got up and started celebrating finally getting one over on him
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:26 PM   #243
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Bryan's announcement basically makes this show an automatic thumbs up. In general though I quite enjoyed this show, much more than any Raw in the past several months.
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:26 PM   #244
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Good match that showed Reigns in a good light for once.
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:28 PM   #245
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Rollins was great during the whole time.
That was my thought Rollins was a fantastic heel tonight

My friends and I literally jumped out of our seats at Bryans announcement.
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:53 PM   #246
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So, any chance at all that we actually get to see Daniel Bryan win the Royal Rumble and face Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania? Honestly, I feel like that's the best route to go at this point. Reigns' return has not exactly been a knock out - I'm assuming the creative team (i.e. Vince) learned his lesson from last year's fiasco and won't try to force feed him to us ala Batista.

Probably just getting hopeful.
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:54 PM   #247
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Best. RAW. Ever.

Daniel Bryan is back, Triple H is back, and WWE actually had characters get fleshed out and develop emotional connections with us. God bless Paul Levesque!
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:57 PM   #248
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So, any chance at all that we actually get to see Daniel Bryan win the Royal Rumble and face Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania? Honestly, I feel like that's the best route to go at this point. Reigns' return has not exactly been a knock out - I'm assuming the creative team (i.e. Vince) learned his lesson from last year's fiasco and won't try to force feed him to us ala Batista.

Probably just getting hopeful.
Reigns won Superstar of the Year. So, the fans must see something in him. DB is a good second option if Reigns can't hang.
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:59 PM   #249
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I think youll get Rollins vs Bryan for the MITB at WM. Bryan wins ad cashes in on Lesnar after he beats Reigns.
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Old 12-30-2014, 12:26 AM   #250
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Anybody else upset that Lilian said Konnor and Victor and not just Konnor....Victor the Ascension?
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Old 12-30-2014, 12:58 AM   #251
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Best. RAW. Ever.

Daniel Bryan is back, Triple H is back, and WWE actually had characters get fleshed out and develop emotional connections with us. God bless Paul Levesque!
It was good but it lacked some RKO's
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Old 12-30-2014, 03:21 AM   #252
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Anybody else notice the respect fans have for Bryan?

No "What" chants and at certain points they got totally quiet when he was trying to speak.
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:32 AM   #253
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Rollins was great during the whole time.
up until he said "I'm going to kill him anyway".... Seemed very out of place.
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:35 AM   #254
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Really hope this is the last time we see Steph, hate how she tries to make herself look like a bad-ass over all the other divas.
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:57 AM   #255
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up until he said "I'm going to kill him anyway".... Seemed very out of place.
I liked that, Rollins has been amazing since the Shield split.
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Old 12-30-2014, 09:23 AM   #256
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Seemed odd to me, I would have scripted him to say "I'm gonna do it anyway"
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Old 12-30-2014, 09:27 AM   #257
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The line works with anyone but Kurt Angle because he won an Olympic gold medal with a broken freakin' neck!

And Rollins is tremendous and one of the best heels. I seriously hope they keep him heel for the foreseeable future so he can develop the persona even more.
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Old 12-30-2014, 10:19 AM   #258
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I feel like they will have Cena "outsmart" them first thing next week with a lawyer saying he can't make that decision under duress or some shit.
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Old 12-30-2014, 10:20 AM   #259
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Daniel Bryan needs to win the royal rumble, make lesnar tap out at Mania to win the title, and then have a series of feuds leading to Dean Ambrose or Wyatt winning the title off of him at SummerSlam.
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Old 12-30-2014, 10:25 AM   #260
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Anybody else notice the respect fans have for Bryan?

No "What" chants and at certain points they got totally quiet when he was trying to speak.
I think it was because of the legitimate fear/sadness that he could actually be retiring. I know I started to get emotional ala Edge/HBK/Flair retirement speeches until he teased it too much and it started dawning on me what was about to happen. If there is any doubt as to whether Daniel Bryan is a fucking SUPERSTAR, it was eliminated last night. Him saying he is wrestling again got a pop that rivaled Flair's "I'LL NEVER RETIRE!" Promo. Fans love and respect Daniel Bryan. There is an emotional connection that has been built over the past few years that can never be broken. He is a solidified permanent true main event draw. Daniel Bryan is perhaps the only babyface in WWE who bridged the gap between the casual audience and the hardcore fans. From my memories, I don't recall Washington DC being a "smarky" city so I can only imagine the reaction he'll get in Philly when he enters (and wins) the 2015 Royal Rumble. Daniel Bryan makes people happy just by wrestling, and that is something truly special.
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Old 12-30-2014, 10:40 AM   #261
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I think it was because of the legitimate fear/sadness that he could actually be retiring. I know I started to get emotional ala Edge/HBK/Flair retirement speeches until he teased it too much and it started dawning on me what was about to happen. If there is any doubt as to whether Daniel Bryan is a fucking SUPERSTAR, it was eliminated last night. Him saying he is wrestling again got a pop that rivaled Flair's "I'LL NEVER RETIRE!" Promo. Fans love and respect Daniel Bryan. There is an emotional connection that has been built over the past few years that can never be broken. He is a solidified permanent true main event draw. Daniel Bryan is perhaps the only babyface in WWE who bridged the gap between the casual audience and the hardcore fans. From my memories, I don't recall Washington DC being a "smarky" city so I can only imagine the reaction he'll get in Philly when he enters (and wins) the 2015 Royal Rumble. Daniel Bryan makes people happy just by wrestling, and that is something truly special.
And the best part is that his rise was natural. Sure, the yes! movement takes place across the globe, but like you said, fans just enjoy him in the ring doing what he does best.

If Vince isn't convinced that he has yanked every brass ring down, with prejudice, then he is actually out of touch and should bugger off.
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Old 12-30-2014, 10:54 AM   #262
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Seemed odd to me, I would have scripted him to say "I'm gonna do it anyway"
Yeah but that's less ruthless and badass.
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Old 12-30-2014, 11:03 AM   #263
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So will the authority returning change/add a stipulation to the potential Triple H vs. Sting WM match?
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Old 12-30-2014, 11:05 AM   #264
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Maybe Sting becomes GM Vs. Triple H steps down as COO. The problem with Survivor Series is that there was nobody ready to be in Command of WWE once the authority left. At WM Sting will be standing there ready to lead.
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That's what I was thinking. Makes the most sense...ish
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Not a fan of Daniel Bryan's return. The annoying Yes chants, the unbearable booing of other wrestlers that aren't Daniel Bryan on the shows. The way they treated Rey Mysterio in the 2014 Royal Rumble match proved to me that Daniel Bryan is the IWC's darling.

It's pretty obvious they are going to put Roman Reigns' push on hold, to have Daniel Bryan pursue the WWE Championship once again. Which is sad, because Roman Reigns has more reason to be a WWE Champion now, than Daniel Bryan.

And now fans are going "WWE better make Daniel Bryan the champion in 2015". Why should they? Because some marks saying "we riot" everytime their darlings doesn't get a championship reign? Daniel Bryan already got a superstar level in the WWE, so he doesn't need another year. He achieved greatness by being at the top of his game and defeating to former WWE Champions in one night for the WWE Championship at WrestleMania. He doesn't need another title reign.
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Yeah but that's less ruthless and badass.
How many people believe rollins would actually kill him?
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Old 12-30-2014, 11:40 AM   #268
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And as far as Edge goes, is it really necessary by the WWE to give Edge constant cheapshots at his neck problems?

Last time he was on Raw, Triple H mocked it, now we have Rollins threatening to break Edge's neck.

Is it really that necessary?
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Old 12-30-2014, 11:46 AM   #269
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Roman Reigns has more reason to be a WWE Champion now, than Daniel Bryan.
What reason(s)? Because he looks pretty? He doesn't speak very well and is somewhat turning into a Cena mold (apron dropkick, superman punch,OOO AAAHHH, spear).

He needs more character development.

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Ebolarate, please. Why not?

Bryan isn't a "darling" of mine, but I do believe he is damn good at what he does and fares better than Reigns in every area.
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Old 12-30-2014, 11:48 AM   #270
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And as far as Edge goes, is it really necessary by the WWE to give Edge constant cheapshots at his neck problems?

Last time he was on Raw, Triple H mocked it, now we have Rollins threatening to break Edge's neck.

Is it really that necessary?
Pretty standard WWE behaviour for WWE, even when wrestlers are active, injuries (regardless if they are scripted or legit) have always/will always be exploited. How is this different?
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Pretty standard WWE behaviour for WWE, even when wrestlers are active, injuries (regardless if they are scripted or legit) have always/will always be exploited. How is this different?
Hogan has knees problems, you don't see anybody going: "Yo, Hogan, i'll break your knees if you try and stop me."

If John Cena retires from injuries, I seriously doubt that the WWE will exploit his injuries.
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Comparing Hogan and Edge

For all intents and purposes, the wind can blow wrong and Hogan will be paralyzed. He isn't involved physically in anything because he can't be, period.

If you truly believe that WWE wouldn't generate cheap heel heat over a retired John Cena's injuries (hypothetically speaking of course) then you must have been watching WWE for only a couple of weeks/months. Edge is far from the first they have done this with, and will not be the last.
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Vince: "Hey Edge can we make fun of your neck?"

Edge: "Yes"
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Vince: "Hey Hogan can we make fun of your knee?"

Hogan: "No"
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Cesaro went straight after Barretts shoulder, its not exactly an uncommon thing to use a commonly known injury and exploit it as part of a match/angle, if Hogan has another match I would bet my last penny unless its against Hornswoggle the bearhug or a similar move would be used and they'd stress Hogans history of back surgeries.

See also Paul Bearers death, Lawlers heart attack, JRs Bells Palsy etc etc
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Vince: "Hey Edge can we make fun of your neck?"

Edge: "Yes"
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Vince: "Hey Hogan can we make fun of your knee?"

Hogan: "No"
This also seems like a realistic scenario. Hogan's ego will never die, which is understandable. He honestly believes he can "have one more run" with the title.
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Comparing Hogan and Edge

For all intents and purposes, the wind can blow wrong and Hogan will be paralyzed. He isn't involved physically in anything because he can't be, period.

If you truly believe that WWE wouldn't generate cheap heel heat over a retired John Cena's injuries (hypothetically speaking of course) then you must have been watching WWE for only a couple of weeks/months. Edge is far from the first they have done this with, and will not be the last.
Will they do it to Hogan?
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If he were to become an active wrestler again, yes. The only thing preventing it is Hogan's massive ego.

"HULKAMANIA BROTHER!!! DON'T SAY MEAN THINGS ABOUT ME K".

Or just reference the two posts above mine that sum things up quite well.
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If he were to become an active wrestler again, yes. The only thing preventing it is Hogan's massive ego.

"HULKAMANIA BROTHER!!! DON'T SAY MEAN THINGS ABOUT ME K".

Or just reference the two posts above mine that sum things up quite well.
With the WWE being so afraid to do something wrong after that CM Punk podcast, they quickly went and retired Christian fearing from his 'concussion and injuries'. I doubt they would ever mock John Cena after he retires. They will never dare to the same thing for Hogan. Hell, they wouldn't do the same thing to Stone Cold Steve Austin about his neck injury. The certainly won't do the same to The Rock.
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K, so back to the original question of why Reigns is so much more deserving or "needs" to be the champ at this point?
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K, so back to the original question of why Reigns is so much more deserving or "needs" to be the champ at this point?
Because unlike Daniel Bryan, Roman Reigns hasn't been a WWE Champion. And I think he surely deserves it. I love how people complain that 'WWE never pushes new stars', but once they do, everyone gets so aggressive "why you push this guy, and not that guy..."
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