11-20-2009, 12:53 PM | #41 | |
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In wrestling, there is only two ways to end a match early. One is to pin the shoulders of your opponent to the mat for justa split second. Now by the time your tryingto get into the olympics, youve trained your entire life to not expose your back to the mat, so it is real hard to do. The other way is to score so many more points on your opponent (6)that the ref calls a technical fall and stops just the round, which is again hard to do because when top competition meet eachother its hard to score one point on them, let alone 6 without them scoring on you. Now lets look at BJ Penn in terms of jujitsu. He has flexability that makes him a one in a million competitor in BJJ because he can get into positions that no other BJJ practitioner would be able to get into, thus giving him a dramatic advantage. Especially because he can end fights when he gets into those positions. Also the structure for competition is different for BJJ and wrestling. There is no belt class in wrestling, you are clessed by achievement. In BJJ you could beat black belt after black belt all while being a brown belt and if your instructor doesnt see you fit as a blackbelt then you stay brown belt, while again the reverse is also possible. Now dont get me wrong, Im not saying wrestling is harder than BJJ because it is not any harder or easier, but it is dramatically different given the rules of competition and the way you ascend in class. |
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11-20-2009, 01:02 PM | #42 | |
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11-20-2009, 01:07 PM | #43 | |
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Are you serious right now... He was doing a commentary on a ppv. He was putting GSP over the same way that Rogan does with any fighter he likes. And dont try saying thats untrue because hes RANDY... hes like any other guy and was doing what was right at the time. |
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11-20-2009, 01:08 PM | #44 |
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To go off on a tangent for a second, I was very disappointed by the lack of wrestling shown on tv during the last Olympics. I understand they only show what they think people will watch, but they could of shown more than the final round of each weight class in my opinion especially with like 15-20 channels doing coverage.
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11-20-2009, 01:11 PM | #45 |
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Yea it kind of sucks. You would think they would want to show the earlier rounds of competiton because thats where the most action is usually seen. You get to see the best guys dismantle the lesser competition and usually see cool moves and all that. In the finals you barely see anything outside of the closing minutes and seconds.
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11-20-2009, 01:13 PM | #46 |
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Im reffering to the freakishly amazing performance that he went through, from winning the nationals unexpectidly onward to making the olympic final. That's alot of world class guys haveing alot of off days...
And I am only using this example to explain that to state a certainty while speculating results of a combat sport is just as retarded as a person can be. I mean, look at how many MMA upsets there have been in the last 2-3 years. Guys who were written off due to inexperience, or not even being in the same league as their opponents..... Sometimes they pull it off. Why are you defending the notion of certanties in speculation? I am certain you are stupid, but that is based on what is in front of me, not how I gauge your intelligence in 2 years time. FFS! |
11-20-2009, 01:15 PM | #47 | |
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Stop defending the specifics.... It wasn't and still remains, not the point. |
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11-20-2009, 02:15 PM | #48 | |
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Go back to my post about wrestling vs BJJ.... in MMA theres that many more ways to end a fight. How many of those upsets have come from KOs or caught in submission. Theres a difference between beating a guy in a time period vs catching them in a fight ending move. Now you might say "what about decision upsets"... well theres the question on whether the judges know what theyre doing, but also if someone gets dominated for 15-25 minutes, is that an upset? |
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11-20-2009, 02:32 PM | #49 |
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11-20-2009, 03:47 PM | #51 |
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I'm the same as Kimbo in every way Except for the hair And beard And the gold teeth Wait, I'm undefeated in MMA, currently at 0-0 Oh, also, I'm white. Apart from that, you clearly don't know what you're talking about :foc: |
11-20-2009, 03:58 PM | #52 |
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Dave Youell is a killing machine, you don't mess with him.
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11-20-2009, 04:21 PM | #53 |
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11-27-2009, 11:16 AM | #54 |
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I say you make a push for wrestling forum mod in 2010.
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