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Old 08-20-2012, 11:17 PM   #321
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Is THAT enough to stop all the people still trying to say Punk isn't a heel?
Now he's a full-fledged heel.

Did it in his Bret Hart gear, too.

Awesomeness.
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:18 PM   #322
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Is THAT enough to stop all the people still trying to say Punk isn't a heel?
Eh, fuck Lawler!
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:20 PM   #323
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:20 PM   #324
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Honestly, thought the last few minutes of Raw gotta kinda snoozy until Lawler got kicked. Does this make me less a wrestling fan?
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:21 PM   #325
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That makes CM Punk an even further face in my opinion..Lawler sucks at commentating and that's what he gets for it. lol
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:21 PM   #326
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Lawler's had that coming for a long time. That face loving propaganda machine. Let's Go Ziggler chants weren't just Vickie.
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Eh, fuck Lawler!
Yeah infact i would say punk had a face turn tonight.
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:22 PM   #328
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LOL can you imagine if Jerry Lawler was the one who all of a sudden turned heel?
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:26 PM   #329
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Lawler is good at being an annoying heel, and good at being an annoying face that noone cares for. Love the guy outside of commentating, though.
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:26 PM   #330
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I actually enjoyed most of this Raw. Chock it up to a good PPV the night before, or chock it up to the fact I was drinking and making stuff in Photoshop for 3 hour and 15 minutes...

Nonetheless, it was entertaining.
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:30 PM   #331
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Punk did have a point about Lawler being a "Propaganda Machine".



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Old 08-20-2012, 11:37 PM   #332
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Lawler is under the impression that he is the WWE Universe. Totally the Joseph Goebbels of wrestling!
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:29 AM   #333
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CM Punk should have announced the #1 Contender to be El Dandy.
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:32 AM   #334
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It's crazy WWE won't have JR weekly, yet Jerry Lawler has stuck around so many years.

Vince must respect him or something. But I really think his time is up.

His time has been up for quite a while, actually.
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:43 AM   #335
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Loved that Chris Jericho storyline wise was just fired FOREVER. One of the greatest in the history of the industry will never be on WWE tv ever again.

So naturally they sell the seriousness of the situation by having Cole and King put over a fucking movie trailer.
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:46 AM   #336
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Also somebody else brought up showing the Rock and Cena match ad right after Punk kicked Lawler.

Like just an ounce of foresight would tell even the dimmest person those are bad ideas.
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:47 AM   #337
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Unless they use the ad next week in Punk's story.

The Jericho thing irks me though.
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:49 AM   #338
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Yeah, Triple H gets a tribute of still pictures, and Jericho gets a movie promo as he's walking up the ramp.

We're never going to see Chris Jericho wrestle again, since he's been fired by the WWE, and this is how he gets to go out.

Thanks for nothing, WWE.
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:50 AM   #339
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Loved that Chris Jericho storyline wise was just fired FOREVER. One of the greatest in the history of the industry will never be on WWE tv ever again.

So naturally they sell the seriousness of the situation by having Cole and King put over a fucking movie trailer.
That whole Jericho stuff was stupid. "Hey well done you won last night at Summerslam. Your career is on the line tonight." They could have just done an injury angle or something instead of having one of their top guys "fired forever" and then have nobody give a fuck.
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:53 AM   #340
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Loved that Chris Jericho storyline wise was just fired FOREVER. One of the greatest in the history of the industry will never be on WWE tv ever again.

So naturally they sell the seriousness of the situation by having Cole and King put over a fucking movie trailer.
Yeah. I have a feeling the guys in the production truck realized it. Cole threw to the trailer, but then it was like "Wait guys.... this seems to be really emotional or something. Let's stay on Jericho a bit longer............................................ Ok. Now roll the trailer or otherwise the throw was too long ago."
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:55 AM   #341
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How many times has Jericho been fired on RAW now? I think he's had a few "fired from WWE" and then a few "Fired from RAW (Go directly to Smackdown)" matches. Automatically loses them all.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:05 AM   #342
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The gig with Jericho is we all know he'll be back. Just like the last 352 times he was "fired"
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:08 AM   #343
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Oh, and did anyone think punk would name lawler #1...aj next week would dsrve which pisses lawler off..blah blah blah..
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:12 AM   #344
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Jericho won't be back. His contract was terminated, brah.

And Brock Lesnar quit. And he said he will never return.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:12 AM   #345
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I really like Punk to be like this. I think his next full face turn, if given time (no instant turn), he will skyrocket to popularity to the height he's been wanting.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:12 AM   #346
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They should have gone with an injury angle. The casual waste of the moment after he lost though was indeed abysmal.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:18 AM   #347
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Killer promo by Cena tonight. Kind of "schooled" Punk.
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Its not that surprising considering any time Jericho's been fired or leaves, it ends up with him loosing and then something occurring like being dragged out of the ring or simply ignored. I think the only time he got an actual moment was the last time he was on tv before his recent run.

Also seems really bad considering earlier in the night Triple H got a nice farewell moment even if he wasn't on tv or the several times Cena has made farewell moments in the past two years only to reappear the following week.
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All I can say is that I wasn't impressed with Raw tonight, which is bad considering it came right after a PPV. I used to never be unimpressed back in my first days watching it. Now it gives me a headache trying to make sense of the buffoonery. I'm gonna try and give TNA some support and hope they can be a good alternative (and that's alot I'd have to be hoping for with them).
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Anyone who thinks that was jerichos last match ever needs their head examined. H doesnt need a huge goodbye moment for another fozzy break. If jericho retires hes having his last match at mania.
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Killer promo by Cena tonight. Kind of "schooled" Punk.
The best part about this angle is that feuding with punk always brings the best out in cena both in ring and on the mic.
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Anyone who thinks that was jerichos last match ever needs their head examined. H doesnt need a huge goodbye moment for another fozzy break. If jericho retires hes having his last match at mania.
I think people were speaking in sarcastic/kayfabe terms as far as "Jericho's last match ever". Kayfabe-wise Jericho coming off a big win at SummerSlam and then the next night his career with WWE is over just like that is a HUGE deal and it was treated like he'll just be back next week. It was a waste. If you're gonna go with the fired angle to write him off, why wouldn't you milk it for drama? Even a little bit?
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I don't get why Jericho's contract had to be on the line.

Why not just explain his absence with an injury. He's already got taped up ribs.

Ziggler could have wanted a rematch to prove that SummerSlam was a fluke. During the match, Ziggler could have really worked on the ribs and Jericho is pretty much defeated. Ziggler attempts to hit Jericho with the briefcase when the ref is occupied with Vickie, but Jericho ducks and rolls Ziggler up for the win.

Ziggler is absolutely pissed and attacks Jericho as the ref raises his arm. Then Ziggler just kicks the living shit out of Jericho around ringside, focusing mainly on his ribs. Finally, he hits Jericho with a ZigZag, but on a steel chair. Ziggler walks away proclaiming to be great and so on. His usual stuff. Both Ziggler and Vickie leave with a chorus of boos as Jericho receives urgent medical attention.

Ziggler looks like a badass and a threat to the World Heavyweight Champion, especially when he's pissed off, and Jericho has an explanation for taking a long time off. It could also lead to a Ziggler/Jericho match for the World Heavyweight Championship somewhere down the line, when Jericho makes a surprise return.
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Instead of the stupid idea of having AJ make the stip they could have just had y2j and zig talking trash and make it themselves. It would make sense because THEY would have made this match the real big one. There was no reason for AJ to say "oh yeah Chris if you lose tonight your fired".
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Yep, and it's called "Spin the Bottle"...


Also, wish we could've seen a little bit more of an exuberant celebration out of Kaitlyn considering it's her first ever shot at the title. Maybe if she actually wins it at NoC (OK, so they haven't said that's when it's taking place, but, yeah...it is.), we'll see a better celebration.
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