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Old 07-19-2007, 10:03 AM   #81
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:39 PM   #82
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So Sherk and Franca both tested positive for a banned substance.

This is just great for the sport.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:45 PM   #83
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Sean Sherk, the reigning UFC World Lightweight Champion, who last competed on July 7, 2007 in Sacramento, has tested positive for Nandrolone Metabolite. He has been fined $2,500. His suspension period runs from the conclusion of his bout on July 7, 2007 through the remainder of his licensing year which is June 26, 2008. Furthermore, he has been assessed an additional 10 days in order to fulfill the terms of his suspension (365 total days). The additional days will be added at the beginning of his next licensing year when he reapplies.

Normal levels of Nandrolone range from 2 ng/mL (average person) to 6 ng/mL (athlete engaged in rigorous activity). Mr. Sherk's reported level certified by the Director of Science and Technology from the laboratory that conducted the tests was 12 ng/mL. Both the "A" sample and "B" sample were tested and confirmed as positive.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:16 PM   #84
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So Sherk and Franca both tested positive for a banned substance.

This is just great for the sport.
Actually I think this isn't a huge deal for the sport in terms of back lash. It sucks because two of your guys are out for a year, but it will make them more reputable than say WWE. UFC fines guys and bares them for a year, WWE slaps them on the wrist and says stop that. Obviously there's going to be some commentary on fighters failing, but at least UFC/Nevada are taking strong steps in cleaning it up.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:27 PM   #85
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Oh yes I agree but this is a bad time for one of their champs to be failing.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:28 PM   #86
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Especially Sherk. I love Sherk
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:38 PM   #87
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So Sherk and Franca both tested positive for a banned substance.

This is just great for the sport.
It is in relation to what happened recently with WWE.
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Yeah, that was my point Rob. It will help make them seem more legit being that they are following through on their test.
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well at least the wanderlei liddel fight is still supposed to happen
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damn..so I guess Sherk is gonna get stripped of his title? Huerta baby!!
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Old 07-20-2007, 09:43 AM   #91
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Huerta is way overhyped. Its only a matter of time before he gets beat by someone we never expected to beat him.
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Old 07-20-2007, 03:36 PM   #92
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That title would look nice around BJ Penn
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so we're just overlooking dana white being a lying peice of shit?
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Common knowledge that Dana White is a dick.
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Seriously you gotta be a fucking idiot to use a banned substance while training for a main event fight. You're going to be tested if you're in the main event. Stupid that both of them did it.
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Huerta is way overhyped. Its only a matter of time before he gets beat by someone we never expected to beat him.
You're probably right, his last 2 fights have been close. But he's still one of my favorites..although he's still a notch or 2 below a BJ Penn.
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I dont think Dana White is a lying peice of shit. Liddel is coming off a loss, why would Dana not wanna make that fight. Its one of the only fights he can make concerning Liddel that would make alot of money. Everything else wouldnt make sense.
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Wanderlei signed for the fight but in november instead of september which wasnt good for dana. So he went on a smeer camaign and slamed wanderlei saying he backed out. Thats a bunch of shit.
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Old 07-22-2007, 03:40 AM   #100
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Crazy about Sherk and Franca failing that piss test..

I hope Chuck KO's Wanderlei if/when it happens..
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Wanderlei signed for the fight but in november instead of september which wasnt good for dana. So he went on a smeer camaign and slamed wanderlei saying he backed out. Thats a bunch of shit.
Silva didn't sign for November. He agreed to the fight with no date and then said he wanted it in November. Dana doesn't need the fight in November, he needs it in September. It was never signed for a specific date.

And don't think for for a second that Silva doesn't need the extra time off in order to pass a steroid test.
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Well I could repost the article buuuuut it did say that he had an offer with two options and they were september and november and he said november.

Thats bull shit then that Dana said that wanderlei declined the fight then. Regardless of when he needs the fight to happen. He shouldnt have opened his mouth on anything OR not given wanderlei the option.

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And don't think for for a second that Silva doesn't need the extra time off in order to pass a steroid test.
maybe. I wouldnt put it past him but the reasons he did say also made sense too.
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You are right that Dana shouldn't open his mouth. Recently, his has said different things constantly about various things but a lot of it is old stuff people are reposting as new. He needs to use his site to make his words known in the world.
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He also needs to make a UFC ranking sstem public so everyone can see where the fighters are in terms of title contention. That way its not the same people fighting every time and people who are earning their way up get a shot.

It just seems that dana just puts people in there that are a money draw. Which is smart in terms of getting viewers and buyrates but thats going to wear thin sooner or later and he needs to fix it now before it gets out of hand.
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I think the ranking thing is hard because fighters always refuse to fight certain guys and people will complain if say Shogun is fighting for the 205lbs on PPV when he is the 5th ranked guy or something. Also, how would they rank fighters and how do they introduce new guys from Pride and what not? No way will Fedor be fighting 5 guys before getting a title shot.

I don't think making drawing fights will wear thin at all. It never did in boxing or wrestling.
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well i dont know too much about how boxing runs itself other than is getting phased out because of the greedy promoters. In terms of wwe wrestling, you cant really have a ranking system because its all a work and the title shots have to do more with storylines and entertainment. If you mean real wrestling, there is no titles and shots. Its all qualification and titles are once a year unless its the olympics which is every 4.
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Id like to see something kinda like this: Depending on where you are in the card determines where you stand in terms of contention. Usually theres 4 or 5 televised fights on a card. if your the first fight, your 3 or 4 wins out of title contention. If your the match before the main event or if there isnt a title being defended and you are the main event then you should be 1 win from contention. Or something like that.
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In boxing, the various alphabet companies who have titles have board members who rank fighters. It's full of political bullshit and can't be taken too seriously. Some bodies refuse to rank fighters who hold another world title. For example, Joe Calzaghe has been the best super middleweight fighter for the last 10 years and has never been ranked by the IBF, WBA or WBC because he was the WBO champion. He even won the IBF title in this time and the mandatory defense he would have had to have done was insane. I don't think rankings would work in MMA to be honest. Too much room for arguement and at the end of the day, it's Dana White's baby and he wants to make money. And the best way for him to do that is make the big fights and he does that.
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Shogun/Forrest being rumored on mmaweekly...nighty night Griffin.
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Must've overlooked your post. Cant wait , september has 3 fight nights.
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:33 PM   #113
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Must've overlooked your post. Cant wait , september has 3 fight nights.
Does it? I know they have the London show and the Liddell vs. Jardine PPV.
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Forget that, they have a Fight Night show on Sept 19 too.
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I though Shogun vs Griffin was on the same card as Liddell vs Jardine?
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:29 PM   #116
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I'm pretty sure it is. Here are the cards taken from MMAweekly.com

UFC 75: SEPTEMBER 8, 2007 IN LONDON, ENGLAND

-Quinton Jackson (#2 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Dan Henderson (#4 Light Heavyweight in the World)*
-Mirko Cro Cop (#3 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Cheick Kongo
-Michael Bisping vs. Matt Hamill
-Houston Alexander vs. Alessio Sakara
-Thiago Silva vs. Tomasz Drwal
-Marcus Davis vs. Paul Taylor
-Jess Liaudin vs. Anthony Johnson
-Gleison Tibau vs. Terry Etim
-Naoyuki Kotani vs. Dennis Siver

UFC Fight Night

-Din Thomas vs. Spencer Fisher
-Mike Swick vs. Jonathan Goulet
-Chris Leben vs. Terry Martin
-Nate Diaz vs. Junior Assuncao
-Kuniyoshi Hironaka vs. Thiago Alves
-Gray Maynard vs. TBA
-Luke Cummo vs. TBA

UFC 76
-Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (#1 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Forrest Griffin
-Chuck Liddell (#3 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Keith Jardine
-Diego Sanchez (#6 Welterweight in the World)* vs. Jon Fitch (#7 Welterweight in the World)*
-Tyson Griffin vs. Thiago Tavares
-Jason Lambert vs. Wilson Gouveia
-Matt Wiman vs. Michihiro Omigawa
-Evan Tanner vs. TBA
-Justin McCully vs. TBA
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Gray Maynard is fighting Joe Veres on the Fight Night show.
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Wow that's quite a lot of UFC events.
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Gray Maynard is fighting Joe Veres on the Fight Night show.
You hear if it's main card or prelim?
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Nate Diaz vs. Junior Assuncao will most likely be the main event. I think Maynard should get on the main card tho. He's more known and probably more talented then alot of those fighters listed.
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