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Old 11-13-2012, 12:02 AM   #321
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He did. He wanted to skip select road games and wanted complete control of personnel. Ridiculous. Hope we average about 110 ppg. Nash and Kobe love the pickup.
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Monday, November 12, 2012
Phil Jackson thought it was his call
By Ramona Shelburne and Dave McMenamin
ESPNLosAngeles.com

Phil Jackson said he told Los Angeles Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak and executive vice president Jim Buss that he had "confidence that (he) could do the job" when he met with them about returning to coach the Lakers on Saturday.
Jackson then left the meeting with a hand shake and understanding "that (he) would have until Monday (today) to come back to them with (his) decision."

Jackson was prepared to return to the Lakers on Monday morning if negotiations between his agent and the team went well, a league source told ESPN late Sunday night.
But before he could do so, Jackson said Kupchak woke him around midnight on Sunday and told him the team had instead signed Mike D'Antoni to a three-year agreement and "they felt (D'Antoni) was the best coach for the team."
"The decision is of course theirs to make," Jackson said in a statement. "I am gratified by the groundswell of support from the Laker Fans who endorsed my return and it is the principal reason why I considered the possibility."
Jackson added that he never discussed contractual terms in his meeting with Kupchak and Buss on Saturday. His agent Todd Musburger later told ESPN that he felt Jackson's reported demands -- including a salary in line with his previous Lakers contracts, more say over personnel decisions and the ability to skip some road games -- had been leaked to the media by the Lakers or D'Antoni's representative.
"There were no demands, outrageous or otherwise," Musburger said. "To say that he wanted control or that he wanted a zillion dollars or that he wanted equity, those were not topics discussed in the meeting between Kupchak, Buss and Phil. If the Lakers didn't spread those things, the fact they didn't take an affirmative stance to correct the record is very troublesome."
Musburger said that while he respected the Lakers right to hire whomever they wanted as coach, he was disappointed in the way the entire situation unfolded.
"Phil is someone who brought nothing but trophies to their bookcase and value to the franchise," Musburger said. "He deserved to be dealt with honestly.
"He didn't deserve the job, that's their decision. They can hire whoever they wish. But don't say to someone you've got until Monday and then roust him from slumber at midnight to say, 'By the way we hired somebody else.' That's just not fair dealing and Phil deserved fair dealing. He's a good faith person and he was dealt with poorly. It is indicative of the shabby way that organization is being run."
ESPN NBA analyst Kurt Rambis, a former Lakers player and assistant coach who worked on Jackson-led staffs from 2001-2004 and 2005-2009 and remains close friends with Jackson, said Jackson told him there had never been any discussions of salary or restrictions on a potential return and that he and the Lakers had agreed to wait until Monday to negotiate.
"It's a process with Phil," Rambis said Monday. "He goes through an entire mental process of envisioning the season and how to get the team to the NBA Finals. It's about winning for him, not just whether he wants to coach."
Instead, the Lakers went with D'Antoni, believing he was a better fit for their current roster, sources told ESPN.
Jackson's triangle offense was seen as a benefit to Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol but not as conducive to the rest of the players on the roster -- namely point guard Steve Nash and center Dwight Howard.
Another strike against the triangle was that this Lakers team struggled mightily picking up the similarly complicated Princeton-style offense being instituted by former coach Mike Brown, who was fired Friday.
"After speaking with several excellent and well-respected coaching candidates, Dr. Buss, Jim and I all agreed that Mike was the right person at this time to lead the Lakers forward," Kupchak said in a statement released by the Lakers, announcing D'Antoni's hire.
"Knowing his style of play and given the current make-up of our roster, we feel Mike is a great fit, are excited to have him as our next head coach and hope he will help our team reach its full potential."
They apparently reached that unanimous decision very quickly late Sunday night, as negotiations with D'Antoni did not begin until after the Lakers' win over the Sacramento Kings, sources said.
Before that, fans had been chanting for Jackson's return, and there had been quiet optimism among Laker insiders that it was just a matter of time before Jackson was back on the sideline.
Musburger said he was even scheduled to fly to Los Angeles on Monday to begin negotiating a deal.
In the end, he didn't make the trip as the Lakers instead hired D'Antoni.
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SammyG you're absolutely idiotic (and this is coming from the post that starts this page).

Kobe and Nash are old as FUCK. running a high tempo run and gun game will tire them old assed legs out. They won't be shit in Feburary, let alone June! Get the fuck outta here with this noise.

Do you know that D'Antoni will attempt to make Dwight Howard a face up player? Yeah, D'Antoni hates the post. Do you realize how little emphasis he puts on playing Defense? Yeah this is gonna end badly for you guys.

Swept outta the playoffs by THE CLIPPERS!!!!

You heard it here first bitches.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:12 AM   #323
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:18 AM   #324
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:21 AM   #325
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Pretty fucked up to pass over a coach with 11 rings, when he seemed to actually be considering coming back for the fans alone..

Yr team has raped you worse than Kobe on a Colorado road trip..
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:23 AM   #326
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I stated I would rather have Phil. And those "demands" I heard about, I read online. Now I'm seeing Phil's agent say none of it is true. I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the middle. I do realize the talent is aging, and I hope he adjusts the offense to the personnel. I'm still excited to see it. Anything is better than Brown.
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oh btw. I gotta eat some crow. Gerald Green is horrible. He acts like he's grown his game on the 2 on 2 tournament circuit or something. No concept of team defense.

This is the worst defense ever... ( he's at the top of the key guarding...supposedly guarding Chase Budinger )




But that said... Man he can fly.
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What a fucking mess this whole Phil Jackson thing turned out to be. Doesn't inspire much confidence tbh
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I know D'Antoni was Kobe's "first choice," but I'm just not convinced he's the man for the job. Doesn't hekp that I just can't stand the guy
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If the wizards didn't have Wall and Nene coming back, I could see them not winning a game the whole season. I think there are girls high school teams that could beat them right now.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:38 PM   #334
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SammyG you're absolutely idiotic (and this is coming from the post that starts this page).

Kobe and Nash are old as FUCK. running a high tempo run and gun game will tire them old assed legs out. They won't be shit in Feburary, let alone June! Get the fuck outta here with this noise.

Do you know that D'Antoni will attempt to make Dwight Howard a face up player? Yeah, D'Antoni hates the post. Do you realize how little emphasis he puts on playing Defense? Yeah this is gonna end badly for you guys.

Swept outta the playoffs by THE CLIPPERS!!!!

You heard it here first bitches.
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Droford bold NBA pick slightly influenced by listening to clipper homer Ben maller on the radio 10 hours a week: clippers will finish better record than the Lakers.
That was me last month. Also predicted clippers/bulls finals
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:46 PM   #335
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I don't see how Pau and Metta are gonna fit into this new system. Guess I'll have to wait and see. BTW, this Lakers-Spurs game is ugly as hell.
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Also, RP, I told you so. Maybe he'll improve during the season, but I doubt it.
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Why not keep the interim coach? They're playing great, watch em start losing with D'antoni lol
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That was me last month. Also predicted clippers/bulls finals
Seems like you did. allow me to point out the specifics of my prognostications. I stated that the Clippers will sweep the Lakers out of the playoffs. THey'll probably both finish 4/5 in the conference. maybe 3/6.

Clippers/Bulls is just and outlandish flight of fancy. No way this Bulls club is going to beat the HEAT
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I can't wait til we have a PG and a coach again.
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This whole team is soft. They're getting pushed around like little kids. All of them hanging there heads. This is pathetic. I like Vogel, but he's on his way to losing his job because of these fucking babies. I'm embarrassed to be a Pacers fan right now.
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If this continues, Vogel might not have a job tomorrow.
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This is a hideous Sixers game.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:58 PM   #349
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LOL Vogel will probably fired tomorrow. This is horrible. These guys look like they dont even want to be there.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:33 PM   #350
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Hornets got sloppy late in the first half but looked strong in the second half.. Vasques had the best game of his career.. Very shitty final 30 seconds with the Hornets down by 4 and they just kept passing the ball.. No one would take the shot..

Pretty bad, but the team is young..

Memphis knocked off the Thunder..
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I really love the Knicks. Felton and Kidd might be one of the best PG tandems in the league. They should just shop Amare. Dont disrupt this. It's really perfect right now.
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Shop Amare for the best deal available. Call the Celtics. They're all in for a last title. See if you can pry Avery Bradley off them. You add a sick defender. A legit shutdown guy. You're serious title contenders. Be smart. Be proactive. Bradley will shut Wade down. I'm telling you this Bradley kid is for real. When he comes back from injury, he's gunna be great on D.
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No way they deal a team guy like Bradley for a primadonna like Stotamire..
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