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Old 01-12-2016, 03:12 PM   #41
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I'd be interested in seeing that match, even though I haven't really been interested in Jericho since his feud with Punk ended.

Pains me to say that since Jericho is probably my favorite wrestler ever.
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Old 01-12-2016, 06:23 PM   #42
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I'd get on board with that, head and shoulders Jericho's best matches of his career were with Rey Mysterio
Just below the HBK series with Y2J for me. But yeah Kalisto-Jericho would be good. But I really wouldn't be against Kalisto-Lesnar at all either.
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Old 01-12-2016, 09:45 PM   #43
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Kalisto winning yesterday really has nothing to do with the first part of the original post
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:17 AM   #44
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I'd be interested in seeing that match, even though I haven't really been interested in Jericho since his feud with Punk ended.

Pains me to say that since Jericho is probably my favorite wrestler ever.
What about his feud with Fandango?
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:11 PM   #46
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Love Jericho. Love Fandango. But the feud felt really weird since it was clearly just thrown together willy-nilly.

Also it's not like going over Jericho clean at WrestleMania did anything for Fandango. What a waste.
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Old 01-15-2016, 07:56 PM   #47
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Love Jericho. Love Fandango. But the feud felt really weird since it was clearly just thrown together willy-nilly.

Also it's not like going over Jericho clean at WrestleMania did anything for Fandango. What a waste.
It was the right idea to give a young guy a win over an established name. Just the wrong guy to do it with, because Fandango is garbage.

Classic case of getting wrapped up in the troll audiences that attend the RAW after Mania.
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Fandango manipulating Jericho into the feud was an interesting way to kick things off. Fandango beating Jericho at WrestleMania 29 was a good move. I think they should have put Fandango over Jericho at Extreme Rules in some sort of Ballroom Brawl though. Really hammer home that the dude is a threat.
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Old 01-18-2016, 02:23 AM   #49
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But they didn't because every feud has to be 50/50 so that no one stands out.
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I have it on good authority that although the WWE won't be putting Kalisto against Brock Lesnar, that they will be putting Kalisto against him on the Road to WrestleMania. Vince apparently hopes that Brock destroying Kalisto will gain him sympathy. Of course, Kalisto will sell the beating Brock gives him long enough that fan interest dies down by the time Kalisto returns.

The Undertaker vs. Kane has apparently been requested by both men, but they are nervous about delivering on such a big stage. Pitched was The Undertaker & Kane vs. Alberto Del Rio & Sheamus -- given the two having a reputation for being good workers -- with the winning team facing each other. Del Rio & Sheamus would be fighting over who is the leader of the League of Nations, but they would put over Kane & Taker, who would then just wrestle a bare-boned match against each other.

Braun Strowman is expected to win the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal, not the WWE Title. The match will come down between him and Big Show, teasing a Strowman face-turn and break away from The Wyatt Family. Hideo Itami is expected to feud with Big Show heading into the Battle Royal and coming out of it, forging an alliance with Strowman in the process. Vince McMahon hopes that the two will form a cute "big buddy/little buddy" tag team that will eventually get Strowman over and put Itami's ring work to good use.

The report that Triple H is injured is correct, but Triple H will play a major part in the Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns WWE Title match. Both parties will accuse the other of being in Triple H's pocket, leading to a big segment where Paul Heyman calls Stephanie McMahon a "conniving bitch" because he suspects something is up. Triple H will then Pedigree Heyman in order to build some major tension for the Mania showdown and have fans asking questions about what is going to happen. Stone Cold Steve Austin has been rumored to be the special guest enforcer for the match, to ensure that Triple H makes a "fair" decision as referee.

Chris Jericho has reportedly asked to work with Rusev for the event. Jericho is apparently a bit regretful that he didn't play up the fact he was born in America during most of his WWE run, so he will start doing a "United States of Jericho" gimmick when he wins the US Title from Alberto Del Rio at Fastlane. Vince is hoping to market "Jerigreen Cards" to people. Zeb Colter is expected to return during this program to take a Codebreaker from Jericho. It was written into Colter's deal that he'd appear in some form at WrestleMania, but there is heat on Colter for not making the "Mex-America" thing work, so it will be in video montages of him getting Codebroken by Jericho, played at least three times during the night. JBL's line for when Jericho delivers that move is "Down goes the old man!" Listen for it.

Speaking of Zeb Colter, there has been ideas thrown around to have him manage The Social Outcasts. Vince is said to be a big fan of Heath Slater, because he just laughs and laughs when he looks at him. The Rock really wants to be involved with Curtis Axel and Heath Slater at WrestleMania. If they can bypass the insurance issue, a talked about match for WrestleMania is The Rock teaming up with The Usos to face The Social Outcasts. Damien Sandow has been talked about as a possibility to even up the face side. Damien Sandow will likely go by "Damo Uso" for the show. If The Rock can't wrestle, Jack Swagger will be pigeon-holed in.

No word yet on if The New Day, Dean Ambrose and Kevin Owens will be featured on the card. As IC Champion, when the answer comes to Dean Ambrose, many believe that the answer is "No," but it is possible that he will face The Miz and King Barrett on the pre-show in a "Who the better actor is" feud. R-Truth is rumored to be getting involved like he did in the IC Title picture last year (stealing it and such).

Owens vs. Sami Zayn has been seen as having "no drawing potential" by Vince, who instead wants Kevin Owens to put over the next big babyface -- Ryback again. This leaves Bray Wyatt to team up with Luke Harper and Erick Rowan to face The New Day. Most backstage think that The New Day will win to keep Bray's WrestleMania losing streak going, to eventually get him over, and to lead to Bray Wyatt being upset at Braun Strowman for winning at WrestleMania when he didn't -- leading to a feud between The Family and Strowman/Itami.

No one cares about the Divas match, but it is scheduled to be something like Charlotte vs. Brie Bella.

So the WrestleMania card is shaping up to look like this:

WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Special Guest Referee: Triple H
Special Guest Enforcer: Stone Cold Steve Austin
Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Roman Reigns

Winners Face Each Other
The Undertaker & Kane vs. Sheamus & Alberto Del Rio

United States Championship
Chris Jericho (c) vs. Rusev

Clip Show
Zeb Colter is Codebroken

8-Man Tag Team Match
The People's People (Jack Swagger or The Rock, The Usos & Damo Uso) vs. The Social Outcasts

Kevin Owens vs. Ryback

6-Man Tag Team Match
The Wyatt Family vs. The New Day

Public Eulogy
Kalisto is remembered

Divas Championship
Charlotte (c) vs. Brie Bella

Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Won by Braun Strowman

Triple Threat Kickoff Match - Intercontinental Championship
Dean Ambrose (c) vs. King Barrett vs. The Miz
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By the way, expected results:

* Dean Ambrose retains the IC Title, because they want a face to win leading into Mania.

* Strowman wins the Battle Royal, as reported.

* Becky Lynch is expected to turn heel on the heel Charlotte against the face and heel Brie Bella, costing Charlotte the title. Becky is expected to change her ring name to "Becky Bella" after the match, leading to a face turn from Alicia Fox who feels replaced. This will be to pair up Charlotte and Fox as "Team Tapout" in order to highlight their prominence in the Tapout commercials.

* Kalisto returns in May for Payback, which is held in Chicago, which is his hometown, but they don't tell anybody about that.

* The New Day win, as we reported, but The Wyatt Family will be champions by then, because Vince doesn't like the idea of champions winning a non-title match at WrestleMania.

* Ryback squashes Owens, who demands a rematch, but loses twice then. More time will be focused on the "Feed me more!" chants.

* The Rock's team, even if he's not in it, will go over the heels in their tag team match. The Rock thinks Jimmy Uso can be a big star, so it has been suggested that he gets the pin for his team.

* Zeb Colter remembers what wrestling used to be like, and he could just be a heel.

* Rusev will be the United States Champion coming out of WrestleMania, ready for John Cena's return. As a wedding present for Lana, Rusev will give her the "United States," which he renames to "The United States of Wonderful Woman Lana."

* Taker & Kane will win their match, which we reported, but then Kane will beat Taker in Taker's last match. Kane will take off his mask after the match, and reveal that he was crying as he pinned his brother. Taker bows down to Kane and then Kane sets off his pyro and motions that he wants the WWE Title.

* Brock Lesnar hits the F5 on Triple H at one point during the main event. Austin, as enforcer, gets in the ring and gives Brock a Stunner. A referee hits the ring, but only gets two. Roman will take out the new referee with a Spear that Brock dodges and Brock hits an F5. There's no more referees, so Austin enters the ring and only counts to two. Brock gets frustrated and gets in Austin's face. An F5 is delivered to Austin, but then Reigns hits a Spear. Triple H is back up and only gets two because he stops counting. Reigns goes to beat up Triple H, but Triple H low blows him. Brock hits the F5 and laughs. Triple H then Pedigrees Brock. Triple H looks around as he's realised what he's done to the main event. He puts Brock's arm over Reigns -- the lesser of two evils to him -- and fast counts the three.

This is to set up a series of matches between Brock, Reigns and Triple H over the spring and summer months. Austin gives Triple H a Stunner at the end of the show in order to send fans home happy. Heyman comes out in a neckbrace to celebrate with Brock, but Austin gives him a Stunner too. This is in case they can convince Austin to face Brock at WrestleMania the following year.
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Yeah that sounds awful as well. Going to be the worst mania ever.
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It was the right idea to give a young guy a win over an established name. Just the wrong guy to do it with, because Fandango is garbage.

Classic case of getting wrapped up in the troll audiences that attend the RAW after Mania.
Except...you know, the decision to put Fandango over Jericho at WrestleMania was made the night before the crowd made "Fandango"ing a thing. But go on.
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What a SHIT card. I hope his ass tastes like cream cheeese cuz he can eat that.
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.... all this happened, and not one Shaquille O'Neal reference.
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The funny thing is I think we can all see WWE's side, and understand a sort of devil's advocate approach.

We get things like WWE being an upper body business, which is why Chris Hero got dropped (plus he was also boring as fuck) and why it'll always be a struggle for a guy like Kevin Owens. Yeah he's super fucking talented and he's clearly fit particularly for a man his size. But this is the entertainment business and unfortunately there are just harsh realities etc. If it were up to me I'd let things like that go, but I totally understand the body fetish, it adds a certain grandeur larger than life feel to the product.

Also, for all the talk about ratings in other threads, they really don't mean fuck all at this point, because there is actually no competition. So yeah, the ratings are pretty paltry. Even if the product was great I feel like they would only realistically be around a 4-5 versus the consistent 6-7s of 2000-halfway through 2001. Part of that is due to the network and teevo etc. BUT at the end of the day, it's not really a giant stretch to suggest that if this was MUST WATCH TV and an institution like was during a very, very, very strong 2000, people would simply teevo it and the ratings would still be what they were in 1995 seems (because that is almost what they are around) ignorant. If this was must see TV like Walking Dead (which I hate) and Game of Thrones (which I like but stopped watching), then people would go out of their way to watch it and ratings wouldn't be so MEH. As I said though, being the only show in town allows your ratings to not mean much. Yeah there's a bare minimum they need to be able to maintain so they don't look like a complete fucking joke but Monday Night t.v. isn't exactly that strong. There's not much competition other than when the NFL season is underway, and the ratings aren't that much better when there's not NFL.

We don't think we can do a better job than Vince. We just don't think Vince can do a better job than say the Vince of the 80s or HHH running the show. While I think for instance creatively I would like to see Noid's fantasy booking ideas (for instance) more than the dreck that is RAW, they are just fantasy ideas. We don't understand all of the inner workings of the backstage environment, we don't know guys attitudes and we don't have to deal with corporate pressure. However, to think it'd be better for a young guy in HHH (45 or 46 years old is young in the corporate world) who is clearly more in touch with the Audience than a 70 year old dude who his own employees admit is a little fucking crazy and I could only imagine losing his mind more so as he gets older isn't a big stretch either. This is not exactly a pipe dream, it's a realistic need that has to happen for the company to evolve.

And my last point is the problem. When wwf finally put the screws to wcw, it wasn't because the product was perfect. It was because the product evolved into something else. They stopped doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over. Characters evolved, in ring action evolved etc.

Credit to Vince and co. the business model has evolved. The production has evolved. But the in ring product has been stagnat for probably almost 12 or 13 years. We see glimpses of change, but Vince goes back to his comfort zone. That's all.

Now I do have to say this, maybe the product isn't made for me. Maybe I'm no longer supposed to enjoy it, I don't know. But I must then ask you, who is it supposed to appeal to? What is their demographic? I don't know too many people with any amount of taste who would enjoy a program with as many issues as RAW has to be honest. Children, teenagers, the elderly, invalids (Looking at you CyNick). I just can't see the appeal other than your odd cool angle (anything with Brock for the most part or Jon Cena's US title run).
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Now I do have to say this, maybe the product isn't made for me. Maybe I'm no longer supposed to enjoy it, I don't know. But I must then ask you, who is it supposed to appeal to? What is their demographic? I don't know too many people with any amount of taste who would enjoy a program with as many issues as RAW has to be honest. Children, teenagers, the elderly, invalids (Looking at you CyNick). I just can't see the appeal other than your odd cool angle (anything with Brock for the most part or Jon Cena's US title run).
Trying to appeal to everyone, which I think is what Vince wants to do, and you end up appealing to no one.

I do a lot of work in the music business and granted, a lot of what gets put out, I personally think is utter garbage. The difference is, the people (label/publishing execs, artists, songwriters and producers) in charge and making the music (most of them anyway) aren't trying to appeal to every single demographic. Not that they don't try to widen their target market to appeal to multiple demographics, but not at the expense of artistic integrity, product quality, or losing or alienating their most loyal, diehard customers. Once they know what kind of products (music) they want to make and what kind of artist they want to be, they do the research to find out who their target market is, how much they spend on music and how best to market to reach them.

You don't see Taylor Swift running around trying to appeal to everyone. She knows who her target audience is, especially her most loyal. She switched from "country" to pop music sure, but the transition was relatively smooth and she knew that she wouldn't lose her a large portion of her audience because of it. Plus, first album wasn't really that country to begin with but each subsequent album became a little more pop oriented. In comparison, after the Attitude & Ruthless Aggression eras, WWE randomly stopped swearing, bleeding/blading, great story lines and writing for the PG/PC era almost cold turkey. Now they've slowly reincorporated some of that back in but they've also lost about 10% of their audience every year.

The problem with WWE is Vince has either gotten so complacent or out of touch (or maybe both) that WWE's begun to compromise the integrity and quality of the product while alienating their most loyal customers in the hopes of appealing to a small segment of almost every demographic.
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100% agree. Nobody with a sane mind would discredit Taylor Swift. I mean fuck me I would never listen to her songs willingly, but you can't deny that freight train of success. A perfect combo of the right talent, marketing and timing.

Compare her to say John Cena if you want to, because you could call John Cena WWE's pop star if anything. And the guy is a fucking force of nature, he deserves so much credit. But would T Swift get booed out of her own concert? Hell no. When you #1 babyface is getting booed out of the building CONSISTANTLY, your god damned flag bearer, it suggests something bad is going on.

You know what, Hulk Hogan was NOT my cup of tea, never has been never will be. But in the 1980s there's no denying the sheer magnitude of the marketing, the appeal and the timing. Hulk Hogan in the 80s was not getting booed out of the building.

Yeah, they've at points been able to create an interesting dynamic with the booing and the booking, but it shouldn't have happened in the first place. They have hung him out to dry for far too long. You can blame in on fans trying to hijack the show. But if you have half a brain (again looking at you CyNick) you have to acknowledge when your paying audience is booing the guy they are supposed to be into, that is not the desired result. Yeah, they're still paying, and supporting the company, but that suggests to me that they love wrestling so what can they do? You only get so many chances to see a live show especially the biggest wrestling show out there. Why not give them a character they can cheer. And FYI that character for YEARS could have easily been Cena, with his ability, but due to out of touch booking instead he got booed.
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What a terrible card. Too bad Bam Bam Bigelow is dead or we could have LT vs Bigelow II, once in a lifetime, again
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There has been a recent push within WWE to do a Braun Strowman vs. Brock Lesnar singles match, perhaps at WrestleMania 32. WWE ending Monday's RAW with The Wyatt Family beating Lesnar down could be a sign that they're moving in that direction.

Regarding The Wyatt Family, the idea was to use The Dudley Boyz and Tommy Dreamer as a way to get momentum going for Bray Wyatt and his crew as they head into WrestleMania 32 season.


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With the WWE probably being a bit desperate for big stars, I wonder if they will make that call to Kurt Angle? I worry about him passing a WWE physical, but the guy is a freak of nature. Del Rio vs. Angle for the US Title is probably the biggest thing they could do with Del Rio.
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A random WrestleMania 32 card I came up with that doesn't look right because half of the guys featured aren't full-time guys or even associated with the WWE at the moment:

WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Daniel Bryan

Street Fight
Triple H vs. Roman Reigns

The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt

Fatal 4-Way for the Women's Championship
Becky Lynch (c) vs. Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks vs. Paige

Triple Threat Match for the Intercontinental Championship
Dean Ambrose (c) vs. Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Chris Jericho

United States Championship
Kevin Owens (c) vs. AJ Styles

WWE Tag Team Championship
The New Day (c) vs. Kalisto & Mark Henry

8-Man Tag Team Match
Sheamus, Alberto Del Rio, King Barrett & Rusev vs. Dolph Ziggler, Neville, Ryback & Titus O'Neil
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Changing things around:

* I can't see Roman Reigns winning the Royal Rumble being a good idea, nor can I get behind Reigns vs. Triple H at a headline match. I just think it's too risky. Brock should be the title match, but if they can't get Rock, there's really no one else for him besides Roman Reigns. Therefore, I'm going with Triple H costing Reigns at the RR. This leads to Reigns vs. Triple H at Fastlane and Brock defending the WWE Title against Bray Wyatt. Triple H then backs Brock at WrestleMania heading into his title defense against Reigns -- who finds himself backed by The Rock.

* Add Natalya to the Divas Title match. Charlotte is officially a heel now, no? If that's the case, even if Sasha is going to be cheered, you need to have another face girl in there. Nattie is a dependable worker and deserves a WrestleMania "showcase." Yeah, it's five girls, but I think they could work together quite cohesively. I imagine Stephanie McMahon inserts her presence into the storyline to give it a "consequential" feel.

* If they get Daniel Bryan medically cleared, he's not going to be in the main event. His overness and wrestling ability will be used to get others over. The idea of a Bryan vs. Shinsuke Nakamura match is enticing, but I can't see them giving the fans that much of a great thing. I could, however, see Bryan finding himself allied with his "friends" Dolph Ziggler, Ryback and Neville against the despicable League of Nations. Another World Champion in that match gives it some "WrestleMania weight" and would make it a hot opener for the show.

* This leaves Triple H off the card as an active participant. Seems impossible, but I could see Triple H doing it as a political maneuver. "I'm not in it for myself anymore," that sort of thing -- even though he will be buzzing around the main event and interacting with The Rock. If they can get The Rock cleared, they could put Triple H vs. Rock on the main show too, as there's only then seven matches. I guess they could put something else on there too. A Hardcore Match between Rob Van Dam and Luke Harper seems random, but would be fucking sexy. And there's always the Andre Battle Royal to move up.

You end up with:

* Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Roman Reigns for the WWE Title
* POSSIBLE MATCH: Triple H vs. The Rock
* The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt
* Dean Ambrose (c) vs. Chris Jericho vs. Shinsuke Nakamura for the IC Title
* Charlotte (c) vs. Becky Lynch vs. Sasha Banks vs. Paige vs. Natalya for the Divas Title (Stephanie McMahon is Special Guest Referee)
* Kevin Owens (c) vs. AJ Styles for the US Title
* The New Day (c) vs. Kalisto & Mark Henry for the Tag Team Titles
* The League of Nations vs. Dolph Ziggler, Ryback, Neville & Daniel Bryan
* POSSIBLE MATCH: Rob Van Dam vs. Luke Harper in a Hardcore Match (Commentators make RVD's WrestleMania streak a point; only happens on main card if Triple H vs. Rock can't)

The match I am iffiest on is the Tag Title one, as Kalisto & Mark Henry seem like such a random team. I can see them wanting to put Henry on the card given this might be his last WrestleMania, he's a black guy, it's Texas, etc. He's been teaming with Jack Swagger, but I don't really see Swagger as someone they will truly try to go above and beyond to get featured. Kalisto seems like their "hot button" guy at the moment. I can see them having him fly around with Kofi for a few minutes, get tossed around by Big E, tags out to Henry who cleans house, then gets the final pin to celebrate with Big Mark. I don't think it would be great, but it wouldn't be the weirdest or worst thing the WWE has ever done.
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Do you really think that's why they book some guys like that?
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Except...you know, the decision to put Fandango over Jericho at WrestleMania was made the night before the crowd made "Fandango"ing a thing. But go on.
Misunderstanding my point.

I'm saying the booking of Fandango over Jericho was an attempt to help get Fandango over. They obviously saw something in him.

But people on here love Fandango because of the troll crowds that show up the day after Mania made him seem better than he really is.
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you'll find the people that love Fandango here, myself included, couldn't care less about anything he's done since he left NXT/became Fandango and see the whole thing as mostly a giant waste of talent
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I'd say 99% of the people here who love Fandango do so because of his work on NXT and for making the absolute best of the dumb gimmick he was given before Vince got bored of it and moved on to playing with his next new toy. He's very talented, can promo and looks like a star.

Your point is that every single person who was singing his theme song thinks he sucks and were doing so in a "mocking" fashion, which again, is an unbased assumption. This merciless roasting then somehow led to Fandango becoming unironically popular on here somehow for a couple of months. Is this correct? What are you actually saying?
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Do you really think that's why they book some guys like that?
Is it so absurd to think so? The WWE wants the WWE brand to be over and be the draw. If they got another Rock or Brock Lesnar -- someone who essentially becomes big enough to call their shots and go elsewhere -- then they might go elsewhere.
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The best "Fandango" has ever been was Johnny Curtis in NXT. Nice try, CyNick.
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Is it so absurd to think so? The WWE wants the WWE brand to be over and be the draw. If they got another Rock or Brock Lesnar -- someone who essentially becomes big enough to call their shots and go elsewhere -- then they might go elsewhere.
Not too mention Rock can come in and basically do whatever he wants. If Rock wants to go out there and improv a segment, he can, and Vince won't say a negative thing about it to Rock, no matter how pissed Vince might be.

Rock has the talent and experience to do it, because before everyone started to have scripted promos, Rock was given the freedom and opportunity to go out in front of a live crowd and do it, practicing, failing sometimes, learning and eventually mastering it.

In addition, Rock doesn't need WWE, certainly not from a financial standpoint. If Rock goes out and pisses off Vince or WWE's sponsors, NBC Universal, etc., Rock knows he's untouchable. He's a bigger draw, especially mainstream draw, than anyone else they have on the roster currently. Rock's going to draw eyeballs and money unless he just randomly becomes a train wreck, drug addicted, criminal or something.
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