01-23-2009, 11:18 AM | #161 |
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I bet Jack wakes up on the plane, and it was all a dream!
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01-23-2009, 11:27 AM | #162 |
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Im not sure about this, but when the time was skipping back and forth for Locke at the plane. I think for Sawyers group the hatch was imploded.
Wouldnt the plane that Locke was leaning against have been burned out? |
01-23-2009, 12:27 PM | #163 |
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I think the Plane gets burned after the Hatch, shortly before Eko dies me thought.
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01-23-2009, 01:05 PM | #164 |
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I assume they were killed by Hostiles at some point or died in the Purge along with everyone else.
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01-23-2009, 01:28 PM | #166 |
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Anyone else thinking Ms Hawking is Faradays mother?
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01-23-2009, 02:22 PM | #167 |
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I thought the same thing, but the way Ben got to her within minutes of being in LA, I dont think she is in Oxford.
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01-23-2009, 02:22 PM | #168 |
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And faradays mom is in Oxford.
I think Hawking will end up being some kind of Keeper of Time, and Ben is a servant. |
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Yeah that was the only downside to my theory about that aswell. But wasn't the scene when Desmond woke up with Penny on the boat not long after the O6 got back to the 'real world', whereas the scene with Ms Hawking and Ben was 3 years after that, so maybe Desmond has already found her by this point and since then she's moved.
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01-23-2009, 03:40 PM | #171 |
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I wonder what's going to happen with Hurley. I mean it could be nothing, but why go to the trouble of bringing back Ana Lucia and warning him specifically not to get arrested only to have him turn himself in to the police?
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Ms Hawking is Faradays mother, when you see Ben with her this is circa 3 years after the Oceanic 6 made it off the island. I am guessing/theorizing that what happened is Faraday told Desmond to go to Oxford, which he did I am guessing. (I guessing he met with Ms Hawking then shortly after in off island time we see Ben talking to Ms Hawking about bringing them back) I am guessing that Ms Hawking knows for things to correct themselves on the island, all the people who were on the island before it moved has to be back on the island for the timeline to correct itself, I think it keeps skipping because when it resets to a different time, there is a flaw in the timeline (the oceanic 6 missing) so it again tries to reset itself to correct the island, but that wont happen unless the oceanic 6, including Locke and Ben also has to be on the island for when the island resets (moves in time) looking for the right time where the oceanic six where on the island. It wont find this as they are not on the island in any time period anymore, so the island will continue to move back and forth until the oceanic six are returned to the island. I am guessing Ms Hawkings comment refers to what will happen if they are not all returned. Which I think is. During the episode the constant, Desmond starts to die because he does not have a constant yet. During the second episode, we see Faradays girl with a nose-bleed, which foreshawows what will happen ala desmond in the constant. Ms Hawking knows that the island will continue resetting or trying to fix itself until the oceanic six are back on the island, which is doing to all the current inhabitants on the island what happened to Desmond during "The Constant" she knows in a short while, without constants these people will die. Which is why she tells Ben he has only 70 hours (roughly a few days like Desmond had) before time runs out (the island inhabitants die) Thats my guess, I would love for you to tell me what you think |
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01-23-2009, 04:19 PM | #173 | |
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"In the Season 3 DVD commentary for "The Man from Tallahassee", Richard Alpert is described as someone who is not interested in leading the Others but is very influential in finding and selecting a leader. In the commentary for "The Man from Tallahassee", he is described as being similar to a Panchen Lama choosing the next Dalai Lama. He and Ben keep each other in "check" by having the power to pick/veto each other's replacement on the Island. Ben's role would be to pick the next Panchen, should the need arise. This keeps the two in a sort of balanced power relationship. They are allies, yet they have some measure of control over the other should one get out of hand." also... "Richard is the only living Other known to have belonged to the Hostiles who has been identified by name." Im not sure if Richard is one of the original inhabitans of the island, but I imagine most of them are like him, except he just happens to be the one with the most power (among the original Hostiles) |
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01-23-2009, 04:51 PM | #177 |
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I think somehow Cops are going to be working for Widmore.
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Which basically blows the Faradays mom thing out of the water. it couldstill happen, but I am thinking Faradays mom will be on the side of the Losties, where as Hawking is seemingly with the Others/Ben, whom I am thinking more and more are some kind of Time Line Guardians, or perhaps people that have gone back in time and need to make sure nothing changes so that that time can get back to the future where they left. Like if the world changes before they originally left, they cease to exist... |
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I said that when Penny and Desmond are on the boat its shortly before (maybe a few days or less) what is happening in the first 2 episodes of season 5.
To put this in perspective as not to get it confused. (using my own dates) January 1st/2000 - Oceanic six leave the island December 27th/2002 - Faraday tells Desmond to talk to his Mom December 31st/2002 - Desmond talks to Ms Hawking (Faradays mom) tells her what is going on January 1st/2003 - Ms Hawlkin/Ben/Locke all try to get the six back to the island Last edited by El Fangel; 01-23-2009 at 06:05 PM. |
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Your dates are off. They leave the island in 2004. Desmond has his dream three years later, so presumably that's when he goes to Oxford. Same with everybody trying to get back to the island. As far as Faraday talking to Desmond, I don't know. Probably after he killed the other guy since he was so paranoid about another person showing up.
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I said that when Penny and Desmond are on the boat its shortly before (maybe a few days or less) what is happening in the first 2 episodes of season 5.
To put this in perspective as not to get it confused. (using my own dates) January 1st/2000 - Oceanic six leave the island December 27th/2002 - Faraday tells Desmond to talk to his Mom December 31st/2002 - Desmond talks to Ms Hawking (Faradays mom) tells her what is going on January 1st/2003 - Ms Hawlkin/Ben/Locke all try to get the six back to the island Quote:
I said using my own dates as perspective. What I am saying is in sequence of events in a normal timeline, this happened Faraday talked to Desmond in the past Desmond has his "flashback" Desmond talks to Faradays mom/Ms Hawking Ms Hawking/Ben/Locke attempt to get the O6 back on the island |
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01-23-2009, 06:08 PM | #182 |
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Yeah, but you could just use the dates the show gives.
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I KNEW IT!
I've been reading lostpedia like crazy, probably gonna have to rewatch episodes soon enough. I didn't remember Ms. Hawking at all. I just thought she was some random Jedi lady who liked her scented candles and pendulums. Yeah, gonna need to rewatch. |
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Lostpedia? Links bitches and rep will be giveth.
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Type "lostpedia.com" into your browser and press enter.
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I thought Richard just took the compass out of his pocket and gave it to Locke. Maybe it's just Richard's compass and he knows it will convince his other self that Locke is telling the truth. He shouldn't have had any trouble locating Locke in physical location because when Locke tells him where he is with the bullet in his leg, he will tell him to look by the plane. Locke doesn't know the time, so the question is, has Richard been coming every night to check for a bleeding Locke?
Also, did anyone else not believe Sun when she said she forgave Kate? She will have to return to the island, but if Ben is right in front of her, she would have the opportunity to kill him then. Could that mean that she and Widmore now want to possess the island? I am pretty convinced that Jack is Jacob. |
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About the compass...if you go watch Cabin Fever, Richard asks young Locke which of these items are already yours. There are also pictures of the smoke monsters on the wall. I originally thought they were young Locke predicting the future, but I think it makes more ense if Richard had already met older Locke before going to see young Locke. Maybe he is trying to get him to the island sooner rather than later. |
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Also...What were the Kids names that were taken from the tail section? I am joining the wagon of peeps who think Charlotte is the child of a Dharma person, and that Miles is the baby in the beginning of the season, that Professors kid. That is their stake in the big picture. Faraday is involved because of all the time traveling, now we just need to figure out Lapidus's motives, other than being the guy that was suppose to be on the plane. |
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what the hell ever happend to Harper Stanhope?
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01-26-2009, 07:45 PM | #198 |
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Goodwins wife?
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