Lost - Season 5 - Someone get Jack a drink! - Page 15

**Requiem** · 05-15-2009, 02:53 PM

Nah, real Locke is dead, IMO. I don't think he would have even been the leader of the others had fake locke not told richard that he would be, when he told richard to go save him when he was shot

**Reavant** · 05-15-2009, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest

It wasn't the same cabin. Remember the dream Locke had where he imagined Horace (I think) building Jacob's cabin. There is an entirely separate storyline about how Jacob's cabin came into existence.

horace may have still built the cabin... what does that have to do with rose and bernard living in it and it being jacob's cabin 30 years later?

**Reavant** · 05-15-2009, 04:28 PM

They had the flashback of rose and bernard at the cabin then immediately went to present day at the cabin... its the same cabin

**Loose Cannon** · 05-15-2009, 04:40 PM

You two need to settle this in the OCTOGON!!!

**Requiem** · 05-15-2009, 04:53 PM

fyi, it's not jacob's cabin

**Requiem** · 05-15-2009, 04:54 PM

i mean that as in, the cabin in general.. not anything related to rose and bernard.. just that that is not jacob's cabin.. I think it was the man in black's. After all, the ash was around the cabin obviously keeping someone in, and jacob clearly lives under the statue

**El Fangel** · 05-15-2009, 10:01 PM

I just had a stunning realization.

Locke is not actually alive, he is still dead. The Locke we see is actually the smoke monster, who is impersonating him. The smoke monster has only ever impersonated dead people on the island and I am willing to bet that when Jack saw his dad, that was the smoke monster as well. If you think about this, you never see the smoke monster in season 5, save for a few times and Locke is never around. Remember when Ben was in the hole and Locke said he would be right back? He came back as Bens dead daughter.

Also, just thought about this, but I bet that the person we saw talking to Jacob at the start of the last episode was the smoke monster impersonating someone Jacob had killed.

Also the statue is of Tawere (Sp?) which is the egyptian goddess of pregnant women if I remember right, which would make sense given all the pregnancy things going on on the island.

Fuck talk about an epiphany

**Hanso Amore** · 05-15-2009, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

Locke is Moses leading his people to the promised land. lol

You laugh now!

**Hanso Amore** · 05-15-2009, 10:11 PM

I am so thrown though. I try not to get into the message board ideas of Lost, but they all make so much sense.

I wish we had 2 episodes with Jacob, because it just seems like we could, and SHOULD have so much more.

**Requiem** · 05-16-2009, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel

I just had a stunning realization.

Locke is not actually alive, he is still dead. The Locke we see is actually the smoke monster, who is impersonating him. The smoke monster has only ever impersonated dead people on the island and I am willing to bet that when Jack saw his dad, that was the smoke monster as well. If you think about this, you never see the smoke monster in season 5, save for a few times and Locke is never around. Remember when Ben was in the hole and Locke said he would be right back? He came back as Bens dead daughter.

Also, just thought about this, but I bet that the person we saw talking to Jacob at the start of the last episode was the smoke monster impersonating someone Jacob had killed.

Also the statue is of Tawere (Sp?) which is the egyptian goddess of pregnant women if I remember right, which would make sense given all the pregnancy things going on on the island.

Fuck talk about an epiphany

Firstly, yes to the first bit. Not really an epiphany though.. well, maybe for you, but that is the general idea that's circulating through the theory circuit right now. As for the second paragraph... Eh, why? Why can't it be an actual person? Yes, I believe that person is the smoke monster, but I think that is actually him and that the smoke monster is just a form he had to take.

As for the statue. Taweret is portrayed as a fat hippo in her statues. Not a half human, half hippo, but a full, standing hippo. The statue on the island only has the head of an animal, but the body of a man.

I think it is a statue of the Egyptian god, Sobek. He was portrayed as either a man with the head of a crocodile, or a full crocodile at time.

But he was also a creation god, and there were myths in egyptian lore that he was the first god to come from the waters of chaos to create the world.

Sobek's ambiguous nature led some Egyptians to believe that he was a repairer of evil that had been done, rather than a force for good in itself, for example, going to Duat to restore damage done to the dead as a result of their form of death. He was also said to call on suitable gods and goddesses required for protecting people in situation, effectively having a more distant role, nudging things along, rather than taking an active part. In this way, he was seen as a more primal god, eventually becoming regarded as an Avatar of the primal god Amun, who at that time was considered the chief god. When his identity finally merged, Amun had become merged himself with Ra to become Amun-Ra, so Sobek, as an avatar of Amun-Ra, was known as Sobek-Ra.

**Reavant** · 05-16-2009, 02:29 PM

yes i thought from the brief glimps I got of the full statue that the head was a crocodile

**Requiem** · 05-16-2009, 02:31 PM

He is also portrayed with four toes frequently.

**thedamndest** · 05-16-2009, 03:06 PM

One of my favorite parts about this season has been the lack of Jack. It's probably because the story is in so many places now with so many people, as well as Jack generally taking a backseat this season, but I was kind of getting sick of him rallying the troops and running the show in the first few seasons. Glad there is a new Jack.

Also, Lost does a great job of killing off people I don't like quickly, and then building up the deaths of people I do like. Ana Lucia, Libby, Frogurt, Arntz, Caesar, Boone, and Shannon, Naomi, for one reason or another I'm glad they're all dead. Charlie, Faraday, Mr. Eko, possibly Juliette

. There's more but I feel like I've listed enough.

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 05-16-2009, 03:10 PM

The statue had pointy ears though and gators don't have pointy ears.

Also, don't forget we saw that carving of Anubis and the smoke monster earlier this season. There could be some serious symbolism of having Anubis, the god of death, with his back turned to the island.

**Requiem** · 05-16-2009, 03:28 PM

See, I had thought about Anubis at first, but his statues always have distinctly large pointed ears due to him being a jackal, and he also has a very slender face. The mouth and ears though seem to indicate that it's something other than Anubis.

**Requiem** · 05-16-2009, 03:34 PM

See, in general this is how Anubis looks.

Sobek

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 05-16-2009, 03:50 PM

Well the ears aren't consistent with either statue then

**Requiem** · 05-16-2009, 03:53 PM

there are depictions of sobek with ears

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...-Sobek.svg.png

http://www.biasci.com/polyorg/Sobek_idol.jpg

http://www.mstecker.com/images/egypt...a3sobek1a2.jpg

**Requiem** · 05-16-2009, 03:55 PM

The smoke monster seems to be a ringer for Apep (Apophis), who was depicted as a snake/serpent. (Especially because of the image with Anubis):

http://www.getlostpodcastmedia.com/wp-content/gallery/5x12-glyphs/c-users-thad-pictures-lost-season-5-5x12-5x1200002.jpg

Apep was the “Destroyer of Souls” and in the Book of Overthrowing Apep, one of the ways to defeat him is to “defile him with the left foot.” Which foot of the statue is still there?

**Requiem** · 05-16-2009, 03:58 PM

Assuming they are even gods. I'm not so sure I like that theory so much. But they obviously are special.

**thedamndest** · 05-16-2009, 04:07 PM

This is from abc.com:

In an unknown room, we see a man dressed in white at a spinning wheel creating a tapestry with an intricate design containing Egyptian and Greek symbols. We cut to the man sitting on the beach cooking fish over a fire. It's morning, and on the horizon, out over the ocean, a large ship is sailing towards the island. Another man, this one dressed in black, walks over to the Man in White. The Man in Black asks why the Man in White brought the ship to the island -- is he still trying to prove the Man in Black wrong? The Man in Black says they come, fight, destroy, corrupt, and it always ends the same. The Man in White tells him it only ends once, and everything else is just... progress. The Man in Black says he wants to kill the Man in White, and one day he's going to find a loophole. The Man in White says he'll be right there. The Man in Black leaves and addresses the Man in White as Jacob. Yes, this is Jacob. The camera pulls back over the ocean, and we see they were sitting on the base of a giant stone foot. And next to the foot is another foot -- and both feet have four toes. And as the camera pulls back, we see what we've been waiting to see since we first glimpsed that four-toed foot over three years ago... the towering, majestic statue of the Egyptian goddess Taweret. And we clearly know we're a long time ago, so let's get the finale of season five started --

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/ind...62212&d=201648

**Requiem** · 05-16-2009, 04:14 PM

i can agree that the head looks like Taweret hands down, but really? Kinda dumb to have a body that looks nothing like Taweret. I mean look at this, and tell me if you see ANY resemblance whatsoever to the rest of her?

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...=N&tab=wi&um=1

**thedamndest** · 05-16-2009, 04:17 PM

I guess they wanted to leave it ambiguous for awhile, or maybe Taweret didn't look as cool, or maybe they couldn't put a statue with floppy tits on tv.

**Requiem** · 05-16-2009, 04:19 PM

http://www.theoriesonlost.com/wp-con...04/tawaret.jpg

I guess, and I really can't dispute it if ABC says that's who it is.. But body-wise it doesn't seem the same.

**Matt Gingarac** · 05-17-2009, 01:22 PM

And so the wait begins......

Can't wait to actually find out if Claire is dead or not, or we at least get the fill on what happened to her during season 5.

So what bout the eye for the promo of sason 6 eh?
and at the start of the finale when jacob is eating, he eats a red herring and that of course throws me of the destiny/free will theories.

one thing of course seasn six will start with jack's eye and the 2004 crash and something's will be different, very different

**CharismaInjection** · 05-17-2009, 02:26 PM

I don't believe that the future will have changed, cause if that were the case, Jacob would still be alive, as would Locke...so the finale would've been pretty pointless. I believe that 77 survivors will return to the present time.

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 05-17-2009, 05:09 PM

I just hope they don't do something where the bomb mixed with the energy created a black hole or something like that.

**The Destroyer** · 05-17-2009, 06:21 PM

Argh, this is going to be a hell of a wait.

I'd stake good money on the man in black/Fake Locke being the monster - makes sense given it was effectively the monster that told Ben to do what Locke told him. Also wouldn't be surprised if Christian was another manifestation of him/it, given that it was Christian that helped get Locke off the island.

Still doesn't explain why it was necessary for the Oceanic Six to return to the island though - clearly something Locke was also manipulated into doing. Maybe Miles had the right idea and they actually caused The Incident rather than preventing it, ensuring Flight 815 ended up crashing and ensuring that Jacob would eventually die. Guess we'll begin to find out in 8 months.

**Hanso Amore** · 05-17-2009, 09:13 PM

Remember when Ben went to the Monsters chamber, and there was the image of Smokey fighting the statue?

Man in Black = Smokey

Jacob = Statue

Opposing sides.

My guess is Jacob was worshiped as a god. That was the way he "appeared" to the people who worshiped him. Or maybe it is another form...I dunno.

What we see as Jacob and the Man in Black are just their Human forms. I bet they are godlike beings. Perhaps smokey is the Man in Blacks true form?

it does seem to be some form of Good vs Evil, Order vs Chaos, Fate Vs Free will thing.

I lean on the Fate vs Free Will.

The Fate side things humans will always be the same, war, chaos and corruption. Free Will (Jacob) thinks they can change.

**El Fangel** · 05-17-2009, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Requiem

Firstly, yes to the first bit. Not really an epiphany though.. well, maybe for you, but that is the general idea that's circulating through the theory circuit right now. As for the second paragraph... Eh, why? Why can't it be an actual person? Yes, I believe that person is the smoke monster, but I think that is actually him and that the smoke monster is just a form he had to take.

As for the statue. Taweret is portrayed as a fat hippo in her statues. Not a half human, half hippo, but a full, standing hippo. The statue on the island only has the head of an animal, but the body of a man.

I think it is a statue of the Egyptian god, Sobek. He was portrayed as either a man with the head of a crocodile, or a full crocodile at time.

But he was also a creation god, and there were myths in egyptian lore that he was the first god to come from the waters of chaos to create the world.

Sobek's ambiguous nature led some Egyptians to believe that he was a repairer of evil that had been done, rather than a force for good in itself, for example, going to Duat to restore damage done to the dead as a result of their form of death. He was also said to call on suitable gods and goddesses required for protecting people in situation, effectively having a more distant role, nudging things along, rather than taking an active part. In this way, he was seen as a more primal god, eventually becoming regarded as an Avatar of the primal god Amun, who at that time was considered the chief god. When his identity finally merged, Amun had become merged himself with Ra to become Amun-Ra, so Sobek, as an avatar of Amun-Ra, was known as Sobek-Ra.

I dont read the theory circuits, only this thread. Anywho, cant wait to season 6.

**Dave Youell** · 05-18-2009, 08:03 AM

Has anyone considered that Jacob is god? And the man in black was the Devil?

**Hanso Amore** · 05-18-2009, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Youell

Has anyone considered that Jacob is god? And the man in black was the Devil?

That is a pretty popular theory.

I think though because of all the Egyptian type themes, that your typical Christian God vs Devil scenario is out.

I think it will be very similar though.

**Dave Youell** · 05-18-2009, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanso

That is a pretty popular theory.

I think though because of all the Egyptian type themes, that your typical Christian God vs Devil scenario is out.

I think it will be very similar though.

Well they are the super good gods and bad gods.

Observe the man in black in his true form.

I present to you, the super devil!:

**Matt Gingarac** · 05-18-2009, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Youell

Well they are the super good gods and bad gods.

Observe the man in black in his true form.

I present to you, the super devil!:

lmfao

**Impact!** · 05-18-2009, 12:36 PM

Damn! That was great...It's gonna be way to long till next season

Also has anyone else wondered where on earth the compass that Locke and Richard trade back and forth came from? (As richard gave it to Locke when his leg was being mended, and Locke gave it to Richard in the past...so on and so forth)

XL · 05-18-2009, 12:45 PM

I've already gone back to start watching from Season 1. Got me thinking about something that was spoken alot about a couple years ago...the producers said that there is something in the Pilot that we didn't spot/realise was significant.

What was it?

**Hanso Amore** · 05-18-2009, 12:49 PM

Lol what is that picture of?

**Matt Gingarac** · 05-18-2009, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL

I've already gone back to start watching from Season 1. Got me thinking about something that was spoken alot about a couple years ago...the producers said that there is something in the Pilot that we didn't spot/realise was significant.

What was it?

the producers said there was a big hint during the pilot about what the shows about.

it was when locke and walt were gonna play backgammon and he says to walt"backgammon is a game of two sides, one is dark, the other is light"

this has been the ruccuring theme thru-out the show.

i think thats what u were on about.

XL · 05-18-2009, 04:05 PM

Well that's pretty shitty, tbh.

**Dave Youell** · 05-18-2009, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanso

Lol what is that picture of?

...The Super Devil!

05-15-2009, 02:53 PM	#561
Requiem Posts: 19,294	Nah, real Locke is dead, IMO. I don't think he would have even been the leader of the others had fake locke not told richard that he would be, when he told richard to go save him when he was shot

05-15-2009, 04:28 PM	#563
Reavant Donkey Punch Elite Posts: 9,910	They had the flashback of rose and bernard at the cabin then immediately went to present day at the cabin... its the same cabin

05-15-2009, 04:40 PM	#564
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,809	You two need to settle this in the OCTOGON!!!

05-15-2009, 04:53 PM	#565
Requiem Posts: 19,294	fyi, it's not jacob's cabin

05-15-2009, 04:54 PM	#566
Requiem Posts: 19,294	i mean that as in, the cabin in general.. not anything related to rose and bernard.. just that that is not jacob's cabin.. I think it was the man in black's. After all, the ash was around the cabin obviously keeping someone in, and jacob clearly lives under the statue

05-15-2009, 10:01 PM	#567
El Fangel ELF ANGEL Posts: 39,476	I just had a stunning realization. Locke is not actually alive, he is still dead. The Locke we see is actually the smoke monster, who is impersonating him. The smoke monster has only ever impersonated dead people on the island and I am willing to bet that when Jack saw his dad, that was the smoke monster as well. If you think about this, you never see the smoke monster in season 5, save for a few times and Locke is never around. Remember when Ben was in the hole and Locke said he would be right back? He came back as Bens dead daughter. Also, just thought about this, but I bet that the person we saw talking to Jacob at the start of the last episode was the smoke monster impersonating someone Jacob had killed. Also the statue is of Tawere (Sp?) which is the egyptian goddess of pregnant women if I remember right, which would make sense given all the pregnancy things going on on the island. Fuck talk about an epiphany

05-15-2009, 10:11 PM	#569
Hanso Amore You can't teach that Posts: 19,337	I am so thrown though. I try not to get into the message board ideas of Lost, but they all make so much sense. I wish we had 2 episodes with Jacob, because it just seems like we could, and SHOULD have so much more.

05-16-2009, 02:29 PM	#571
Reavant Donkey Punch Elite Posts: 9,910	yes i thought from the brief glimps I got of the full statue that the head was a crocodile

05-16-2009, 02:31 PM	#572
Requiem Posts: 19,294	He is also portrayed with four toes frequently.

05-16-2009, 03:06 PM	#573
thedamndest A Property of Matter Posts: 25,543	One of my favorite parts about this season has been the lack of Jack. It's probably because the story is in so many places now with so many people, as well as Jack generally taking a backseat this season, but I was kind of getting sick of him rallying the troops and running the show in the first few seasons. Glad there is a new Jack. Also, Lost does a great job of killing off people I don't like quickly, and then building up the deaths of people I do like. Ana Lucia, Libby, Frogurt, Arntz, Caesar, Boone, and Shannon, Naomi, for one reason or another I'm glad they're all dead. Charlie, Faraday, Mr. Eko, possibly Juliette . There's more but I feel like I've listed enough.

05-16-2009, 03:10 PM	#574
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,689	The statue had pointy ears though and gators don't have pointy ears. Also, don't forget we saw that carving of Anubis and the smoke monster earlier this season. There could be some serious symbolism of having Anubis, the god of death, with his back turned to the island.

05-16-2009, 03:28 PM	#575
Requiem Posts: 19,294	See, I had thought about Anubis at first, but his statues always have distinctly *large* pointed ears due to him being a jackal, and he also has a very slender face. The mouth and ears though seem to indicate that it's something other than Anubis.

05-16-2009, 03:34 PM	#576
Requiem Posts: 19,294	See, in general this is how Anubis looks. Sobek

05-16-2009, 03:50 PM	#577
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,689	Well the ears aren't consistent with either statue then

05-16-2009, 03:53 PM	#578
Requiem Posts: 19,294	there are depictions of sobek with ears http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...-Sobek.svg.png http://www.biasci.com/polyorg/Sobek_idol.jpg http://www.mstecker.com/images/egypt...a3sobek1a2.jpg

05-16-2009, 03:55 PM	#579
Requiem Posts: 19,294	The smoke monster seems to be a ringer for Apep (Apophis), who was depicted as a snake/serpent. (Especially because of the image with Anubis): http://www.getlostpodcastmedia.com/wp-content/gallery/5x12-glyphs/c-users-thad-pictures-lost-season-5-5x12-5x1200002.jpg Apep was the “Destroyer of Souls” and in the Book of Overthrowing Apep, one of the ways to defeat him is to “defile him with the left foot.” Which foot of the statue is still there?

05-16-2009, 03:58 PM	#580
Requiem Posts: 19,294	Assuming they are even gods. I'm not so sure I like that theory so much. But they obviously are special.

05-16-2009, 04:07 PM	#581
thedamndest A Property of Matter Posts: 25,543	This is from abc.com: In an unknown room, we see a man dressed in white at a spinning wheel creating a tapestry with an intricate design containing Egyptian and Greek symbols. We cut to the man sitting on the beach cooking fish over a fire. It's morning, and on the horizon, out over the ocean, a large ship is sailing towards the island. Another man, this one dressed in black, walks over to the Man in White. The Man in Black asks why the Man in White brought the ship to the island -- is he still trying to prove the Man in Black wrong? The Man in Black says they come, fight, destroy, corrupt, and it always ends the same. The Man in White tells him it only ends once, and everything else is just... progress. The Man in Black says he wants to kill the Man in White, and one day he's going to find a loophole. The Man in White says he'll be right there. The Man in Black leaves and addresses the Man in White as Jacob. Yes, this is Jacob. The camera pulls back over the ocean, and we see they were sitting on the base of a giant stone foot. And next to the foot is another foot -- and both feet have four toes. And as the camera pulls back, we see what we've been waiting to see since we first glimpsed that four-toed foot over three years ago... the towering, majestic statue of the Egyptian goddess Taweret. And we clearly know we're a long time ago, so let's get the finale of season five started -- http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/ind...62212&d=201648

05-16-2009, 04:14 PM	#582
Requiem Posts: 19,294	i can agree that the head looks like Taweret hands down, but really? Kinda dumb to have a body that looks nothing like Taweret. I mean look at this, and tell me if you see ANY resemblance whatsoever to the rest of her? http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...=N&tab=wi&um=1

05-16-2009, 04:17 PM	#583
thedamndest A Property of Matter Posts: 25,543	I guess they wanted to leave it ambiguous for awhile, or maybe Taweret didn't look as cool, or maybe they couldn't put a statue with floppy tits on tv.

05-16-2009, 04:19 PM	#584
Requiem Posts: 19,294	http://www.theoriesonlost.com/wp-con...04/tawaret.jpg I guess, and I really can't dispute it if ABC says that's who it is.. But body-wise it doesn't seem the same.

05-17-2009, 01:22 PM	#585
Matt Gingarac Chunkle-vision Posts: 137	And so the wait begins...... Can't wait to actually find out if Claire is dead or not, or we at least get the fill on what happened to her during season 5. So what bout the eye for the promo of sason 6 eh? and at the start of the finale when jacob is eating, he eats a red herring and that of course throws me of the destiny/free will theories. one thing of course seasn six will start with jack's eye and the 2004 crash and something's will be different, very different

05-17-2009, 02:26 PM	#586
CharismaInjection RIP Latino Heat. Posts: 920	I don't believe that the future will have changed, cause if that were the case, Jacob would still be alive, as would Locke...so the finale would've been pretty pointless. I believe that 77 survivors will return to the present time.

05-17-2009, 05:09 PM	#587
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,689	I just hope they don't do something where the bomb mixed with the energy created a black hole or something like that.

05-17-2009, 06:21 PM	#588
The Destroyer Baird Posts: 27,345	Argh, this is going to be a hell of a wait. I'd stake good money on the man in black/Fake Locke being the monster - makes sense given it was effectively the monster that told Ben to do what Locke told him. Also wouldn't be surprised if Christian was another manifestation of him/it, given that it was Christian that helped get Locke off the island. Still doesn't explain why it was necessary for the Oceanic Six to return to the island though - clearly something Locke was also manipulated into doing. Maybe Miles had the right idea and they actually caused The Incident rather than preventing it, ensuring Flight 815 ended up crashing and ensuring that Jacob would eventually die. Guess we'll begin to find out in 8 months.

05-17-2009, 09:13 PM	#589
Hanso Amore You can't teach that Posts: 19,337	Remember when Ben went to the Monsters chamber, and there was the image of Smokey fighting the statue? Man in Black = Smokey Jacob = Statue Opposing sides. My guess is Jacob was worshiped as a god. That was the way he "appeared" to the people who worshiped him. Or maybe it is another form...I dunno. What we see as Jacob and the Man in Black are just their Human forms. I bet they are godlike beings. Perhaps smokey is the Man in Blacks true form? it does seem to be some form of Good vs Evil, Order vs Chaos, Fate Vs Free will thing. I lean on the Fate vs Free Will. The Fate side things humans will always be the same, war, chaos and corruption. Free Will (Jacob) thinks they can change.

05-18-2009, 08:03 AM	#591
Dave Youell 1/2 Optimist 1/2 Amazing Posts: 12,427	Has anyone considered that Jacob is god? And the man in black was the Devil?

05-18-2009, 12:36 PM	#595
Impact! R.I.P Tanner Posts: 8,219	Damn! That was great...It's gonna be way to long till next season Also has anyone else wondered where on earth the compass that Locke and Richard trade back and forth came from? (As richard gave it to Locke when his leg was being mended, and Locke gave it to Richard in the past...so on and so forth)

05-18-2009, 12:45 PM	#596
XL Feeling Oof-y Posts: 17,136	I've already gone back to start watching from Season 1. Got me thinking about something that was spoken alot about a couple years ago...the producers said that there is something in the Pilot that we didn't spot/realise was significant. What was it?

05-18-2009, 12:49 PM	#597
Hanso Amore You can't teach that Posts: 19,337	Lol what is that picture of?