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Old 02-06-2016, 10:20 AM   #801
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Old 02-06-2016, 10:28 AM   #802
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I like how Dale actually tried to be civil with the guy for like a week before he finally had to break down and just go back to the "What the fuck is wrong with you!?" route. lol
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Old 02-06-2016, 10:53 AM   #803
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I did the best I could lol. This whole thing is hilarious though. I enjoy getting wrapped up in this stuff. You get annoyed and you talk a bunch of shite and you argue and it's good times. I feel like there is this idea that somehow the likes of Noid, myself and you are losing sleep over this. And it's fine if he's trolling, because if he is he is investing a lot if time in it.
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Old 02-06-2016, 12:32 PM   #804
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it would be more entertaining for those us of reading if the argument would actually progress instead of repeating itself for 10+ pages. the ratings in here are gonna start dropping.
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Old 02-06-2016, 12:39 PM   #805
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But if the ratings in this thread drop but are still then other threads, do we all get to high five each other in main page hallway?
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Old 02-06-2016, 01:10 PM   #806
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The status quo booking of this thread could lead to problems down the road BUT for now, business is good and our merch sakes are thru the roof.
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Old 02-07-2016, 06:21 PM   #807
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Old 02-07-2016, 06:36 PM   #808
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Caring about these ratings as a fan at all is the true retardation.
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Old 02-07-2016, 08:42 PM   #809
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I don't think so at all. Caring about ratings is a good way to web interests between professional wrestling, how it's presented, television, marketing and societal trends. The business side of professional wrestling might not be something everyone is interested in, but some surely are.
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Old 02-07-2016, 09:26 PM   #810
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It's just a talking point and something to reference in regards to the standing of the company and how the product is being received.

There is a value to them, but obviously they don't tell the whole story... just a part of it.
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Old 02-07-2016, 11:58 PM   #811
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Old 02-08-2016, 12:13 AM   #812
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Or if they wanted to see us schooled if you love the cynick and think he makes great points.

It's the same as sports talk radio, it's a waste of time and you argue the same things but you do it for the banter.

People like Ruien like to be "that guy" because he's so cool and well adjusted. Who fucking cares, it's a wrassling forum, we're shooting the shit.
I struck a nerve with you huh.
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Old 02-08-2016, 02:32 PM   #813
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Season 1 average viewers: 5.24 million
Season 2 average viewers: 6.90 million
Season 3 average viewers: 10.40 million
Season 4 average viewers: 13.30 million
Season 5 average viewers: 14.40 million

But yeah, you wanna pick one episode that "proves" your point instead of looking at the entire year. It's the same thing that happens when Raw goes up for one week and you sarcastically ask everyone "does this mean things are good again?"

Just like when the average temperature is higher one year than it was the last it proves global warming is a myth.

Good try, you dumb fuck.
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Old 02-08-2016, 02:34 PM   #814
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#fan keeps making bitches out of everyone.
There's only one bitch in this thread. It's not him or me for that matter. At least he tries to bring something to the table. As wrong as he may be.
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Old 02-08-2016, 02:38 PM   #815
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So, you enjoy arguing with someone who does not remotely care one bit? Okay then. Continue typing away to Cynick.

I am so way cooler than you. Sorry
I always enjoy posts like. Sorry we interrupted you curing cancer. Hang on guys Ruien is taking, let's drop everything. I've been on this site for well over 10 years and I have no recollection of your name. Which leads me to believe the amount of relevant things you have said probably equates to zero.

I wish you well in your future endeavors
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Old 02-08-2016, 02:40 PM   #816
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I like how Dale actually tried to be civil with the guy for like a week before he finally had to break down and just go back to the "What the fuck is wrong with you!?" route. lol
What I like is your definition of civil.
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Old 02-08-2016, 02:41 PM   #817
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it would be more entertaining for those us of reading if the argument would actually progress instead of repeating itself for 10+ pages. the ratings in here are gonna start dropping.
I actually singlehandedly popped the territory. I was lurking for a while. Place was dead. The wrestling forum needs me.
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Old 02-08-2016, 02:43 PM   #818
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I don't think so at all. Caring about ratings is a good way to web interests between professional wrestling, how it's presented, television, marketing and societal trends. The business side of professional wrestling might not be something everyone is interested in, but some surely are.
Really only I appear to be. That's why I make the informed points. Everyone else parrots a narrative they heard from other places who feed off selling "the sky is falling stories".
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Old 02-08-2016, 03:07 PM   #819
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Everyone else parrots a narrative they heard from other places who feed off selling "the sky is falling stories".
There you go again doing your zero reading comprehension, moron, troll thing.

Who the hell here has said the sky is falling?

I can't speak for everyone here, but I don't think anyone has said the sky is falling in terms of WWE's finances. All we're saying is that the quality of creative has and is still falling, which in turn could lead to a downturn in WWE's finances long term and in some cases may already have. No one is saying WWE is going under though.
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Presented chronologically in this very thread. Smeat with the first valid point of discussion (not being sarcastic, etc.)

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Not surprised. Even with the dirtsheets teasing Vince and the WWE were in panic mode, RAW felt the same as its been for weeks in terms of lack of meaningful stuff.

Too many potential great things have been squandered (ex. Divas Revolution, Ceasro), too many feuds are just dragging on (ex. Rusev-Zig, Wyatts-Shield Bros, Comic Book feud), and too much focus on the same old stuff every week (ex. constant rematches, Authority promos, Rollins promos, Cena promos).

A rumor floating on Neogaf's wrestling thread for a bit was about the WWE holding off on doing a big "reboot" until after Mania since all they care about right now is legit breaking Mania's attendance record and older stars as the key to it.

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Always funny to me when people blame creative for everything. They give two guys a chance to carry the ball, and the viewing audience rejects it. This is why Cena continues to have the ball and deserves to.

That said, I think you have to expect some drop off at this time of year. Its like the time before Mania storylines start to heat up, and football is back. Its a tough time for ratings. And yet, I bet RAW was still one of the most watched things on cable on Monday.
CyNick bringing up a point no one argued. Slik quoted the ratings drop, but we all know Slik and his serious business ONLY journalism skills pertaining to the wrasslin world. And here we are in the middle of the road to Mania and shit is still the same, except HHH is champ

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The drop-off for football is usually in the 300,000 mark. That's not enough to account for record lows. I think a stale product, a stale format, too long a show, shitty booking and the method of how television is being watched these days all have their part in it.
Noid bringing up the original points of contention.

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Here's another way to look at the ratings - RAW was the SECOND MOST watched show on all of cable on Monday

quick - everyone panic!!!

Its amateur journalism to report on TV numbers without understanding the landscape of how people consumer entertainment. But that is par for the course in the industry.
CyNick arguing with someone again, but who? Slik when he R/T the ratings?

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There you go again doing your zero reading comprehension, moron, troll thing.

Who the hell here has said the sky is falling?

I can't speak for everyone here, but I don't think anyone has said the sky is falling in terms of WWE's finances. All were saying is that the quality of creative has and is still falling, which in turn could lead to a downturn in WWE's finances long term and in some cases may already have. No one is saying WWE is going under though.
To validate Crip, CyNick said the sky is falling and from what I can tell, no one originally stated that WWE is going under.
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I struck a nerve with you huh.
Not really, I just think you're a little creepy tit and I dislike people who think they are cool.

-edit-

should I say come across as "above it" aka "being that guy". This thread in no way effects you, so you coming in here to tell us we're all a bunch of nerds (which is what you were doing) is not really appropriate and only highlights how much of a disingenuous little twat you are and always have been.
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Old 02-08-2016, 05:33 PM   #822
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When did 18-35 become 18-49? I thought 35 was the top of the list of the demo.
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I thought it was 18-34?
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:25 PM   #824
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Check season 6 ytd vs season 5 ytd and let me know what you find kid
So you're backing away from your braindead attempt at only comparing one episode per season and are trying "this ongoing season is on pace to break the trend". Seriously. Fucking hell.

When you acknowledge how fucking retarded it was to try to compare the season premieres and ignore the overall ratings, dipshit. For once, instead of trying to ignore something stupid you've said in hopes it will be forgotten, I want you to actually acknowledge your retard logic or explain why it wasn't retarded. Go ahead.
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Old 02-09-2016, 01:44 AM   #826
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Feel like all this "it was number one on this day" or "such and such beat it out" is just fodder. The fact is, ratings are down for Raw. They're consistently losing viewers and consistently have issues holding viewers.

Regardless of what other shows are doing I can't fathom people giving each other high fives in the hallway when news breaks that last week saw yet another drop in viewers. Doesn't seem like something that'd be viewed as celebratory.
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Old 02-09-2016, 04:34 AM   #827
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:52 AM   #828
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:58 AM   #831
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It might be pretty easy to have Charlotte, Natalya & Paige form a loose heel alliance to go against Sasha Banks, Becky Lynch & Bayley.
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Old 02-09-2016, 06:55 PM   #834
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Old 02-09-2016, 07:09 PM   #835
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Monday's episode of WWE RAW, featuring Daniel Bryan's retirement speech in the main event slot, drew 3.726 million viewers. This is up from last week's 3.383 million viewers but down from the over 4 million they drew for the post-Royal Rumble episode two weeks ago.

For this week's show, the first hour drew 3.907 million viewers, the second hour drew 3.905 million viewers and the final hour drew 3.368 million viewers.
Biggest surprise was the really low 3rd hour but maybe also could have pushed near sub-3 numbers without Bryan's retirement spot at the end.

For some comparison, the post-Rumble show was 4.09 million in viewers.

Only the 9pm hour beat out Love & Hip Hop show for the ratings stuff.

EDIT: Some confusion going around the next regarding the long over-run being included or not for ratings and viewership but one of the top ratings sources (ShowBizzDaily) states it was included.
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Old 02-16-2016, 11:24 AM   #836
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I'm guessing nobody bothered to read the financial reports for WWE or listen to Vince himself taking about ratings? Might clear some things up for you gents.
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Old 02-16-2016, 11:28 AM   #837
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I think this thread is about low ratings not WWE's Finances.
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I'm guessing nobody bothered to read the financial reports for WWE or listen to Vince himself taking about ratings? Might clear some things up for you gents.
So now that WWE has no real competition and ratings are down Vince claims they suddenly don't care about them. How convenient.

Also, sure seems like WWE's investors care about them. Maybe WWE should too.
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I'm guessing nobody bothered to read the financial reports for WWE or listen to Vince himself taking about ratings? Might clear some things up for you gents.

Which NO ONE, sans yourself, actually gives a fuck about.


Again, it is more of the weekly content that is just so fucking BLEH!!!

This Monday, the go home show before a PPV (which their goal should be to up subscribers) the fucking main event had STROWMAN v..... don't even need to go there.


Just watch it, it was awful.
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